Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

2 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I don’t want a new GM. I think we have good players. I think the issue is coaching. I don’t really want to reinvent the wheel and as unpopular as it sounds, I like Brady. My only wish is for a new voice in the defensive room. If it was up to me I’m promoting Brady to HC. I want an established DC that preferably has HC experience to just fix this mess. A dream scenario is Wade Philips. That’s probably not realistic. I want a guy in that mold. Was a HC and has a history of excellent defenses. I want nothing that has to do with any philosophy that McDermott has ever touched. I want fast and physical, man aggressive Defense.  If the Brady ship has sailed, I’d be interested in a guy that has already won. Belicheck or Gruden. I’m not going to get another HC that is a lateral move. I either want one of the top end guys or I’ll stay the course with Brady and hire the best DC available. We are really close. A slight change in defensive coaching can get us over the hump. I know it 

 

I'm more starting think the opposite, the problem isn't the coaching, but the players.  But also not sure on who ultimately has picked the players.  Does Beane have the biggest voice in the room on that, or the scouts, or McD, Is Pegula telling him who to pick?  Or is it simply a consensus? 

 

I will say it is possible that it's getting to the point where the players are tuning McD out as that often happens when you have the same coach for a number of years.  That's one benefit of losing, the coach is never around long enough for that to happen?

 

Gruden had quite a few bad years, the one year he won it all were with a roster he didn't have that much input on putting together.  Belichick only won with Brady, yeah Allen is as good as Brady, in some ways better, but doubtful he has the will to win that Brady did and that's not a knock on Allen.  Belichick was also terrible at player selection, his first few years he had Paoli, once he left, things went downhill.  Belichick also won alot due to "cheating", with social media and all the monitoring and camera's, think that's harder to get away with today too. 

[Kirby Jackson]

20 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Cuz he won a Super Bowl us all I can figure but hell if that's the reason to get him then let's bring in  why not  add Bruce Arians and yes I'm joking as hate both.

Honestly, Doug Pederson is a better coach. I am not advocating for him either.

[Slack_in_MA]

2 hours ago, Mango said:

 

Whose the Buffalo Bills version of Kevyn Adams?

 

Any former players or low level assistants, interns, etc that Terry is having secret meetings with?

Bite your tongue!

[Lagoon Blues]

3 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

I have little to no interest in a recycled guy. I don’t “need” to see someone that won a long time ago. Bill Cowher was never the answer for the 20 straight years of people screaming for him. Gruden sucks. I also don’t think Shanahan and McVay are realistic so cross them off. Those teams aren’t trading their elite coaches because we want them to. Curt Cignetti was my guy but don’t think that we can afford him at this point. 
 

I think that Lane Kiffin is my guy now. He has just enough ego and edge. The Bills have lacked a swagger and killer mentality. This offense would be explosive. Lane would inject that confidence. Schwartz would be my goal at DC.
 

If Schoen gets fired he would be my GM target. He seems to be the scout. He’s drafted elite talent and the Bills roster was better when he was here. If not Schoen, I’d try to pry Nick Casserio away from the Texans. I don’t know what that looks like either but he’s excellent. 

I have been leaning Kiffin as well. I think he got fd w/ davis and oakland.  I think you are right on the swagger thing.  If nothing else it would be entertaining for sure.

[SoonerBillsFan]

38 minutes ago, boyst said:

Does anyone remember tre White's interview with the Ravens where he was talking about going from different culture to different culture to baltimore? In Buffalo they let you be yourself and everybody was really family focused while in Los Angeles the Rams were an organized machine business. It was just what they did, and it doesn't make either one right. But I just wish the bills right now we're a little more business in a lot less personality.

The needle needs to be moved more toward that direction

[bills6969]

 

sometimes you have to go back to move forward 

[SoonerBillsFan]

35 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

WCO is a timing offense, Josh running right waiting for someone to get open is not it. 

Hence the GM who can find a couple damn WR's.  BUT... it does use the TE and RB a lot.

 

As for Josh... Call Elway, have him tell him what going from strongest arm in the NFL to the WCO did for his career.  

[Slack_in_MA]

1 hour ago, jaybeezee said:

I know it seems like complaining on a fan board is irrelevant, and it very well could be, but I do believe that the Bills have people that go on fan sites, and social media to gauge fans temperatures and maybe if their PR people, or season ticket people, or whoever they have realize that the majority of their fan base is fed up with what we are getting from their current regime, then maybe just maybe we will be heard and changes will be made.

 

As Buddy Ryan famously quipped, "If you listen to the fans, you'll be sitting up there with them."

[Puckman5]

2 hours ago, Mango said:

 

Whose the Buffalo Bills version of Kevyn Adams?

 

Any former players or low level assistants, interns, etc that Terry is having secret meetings with?

Sean McVay seems to find good to great WR's and Matthew Stafford is playing great at 37.  Not a realistic option, but he would maximize JA's talents for another decade.  I don't hate McDermott, but I blame him for the offensive shortcomings.  I doubt he'll ever bring someone in that doesn't fit his version of complimentary football.  

[Jimmy Harris 69]

For Coach, how about John Fassel the ST coordinator for Dallas ; previously LA. He is a great coach and a good leader. His father Jim was a coach with giants in the 90’s.  Cliff Klingsberry of Washington and Klint Kubiak of Seattle are other coach possibilities. Ed Dodd from Indy or Alec Holobi from Philly. Both are currently Assistant GM’s. The best model is hiring a gm, then having that person hire the coach. Pegula would probably screw that up. 

[DrDawkinstein]

Serious question: If we clean house in the FO but then hire Terrance Grey as our new GM do we get the comp pick since our minority staff member got a GM job?

 

Think I just found a way to game the system!

[Slack_in_MA]

57 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

I’m a supporter of replacing McDermott for two reasons: 

 

• I don’t like his defensive philosophy; I don’t feel it has the potential to be a strong enough force. It doesn’t dictate terms to the offense, it relies on the offense to make mistakes. 

• I feel like our best chance to win a superbowl, with Josh, is to get the benefit of the unknown that comes with a new coach and go on a heater for a season. 
 

I don’t think McDermott is going anywhere. I hope continues to grow and learn. Ideally, he would cede control of the defense to qualified coordinator. 
 

 

You mean like how the D played against the Chiefs a couple weeks ago? 🙄

[Buffalo03]

Why is this even a thread? Both are here, both aren't going anywhere. I hope you didn't hurt your fingers typing that up because it could have been easily avoided pain

[Shortchaz]

7 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said:

You mean like how the D played against the Chiefs a couple weeks ago? 🙄

Weather isn’t climate 

[Slack_in_MA]

56 minutes ago, SectionC3 said:

Agreed.  And I really think McSchottenheimer is safe.  
 

If I’ve learned one thing about Sean, it’s that he will sacrifice others to save himself.  The no show on 13 seconds.  Canning Farwell and then Dorsey.  DC changes.  If the pattern persists, the next logical sacrifice is … the GM. 

Would you prefer that he kept Farwell and Dorsey?

2 minutes ago, Shortchaz said:

Weather isn’t climate 

[jaybeezee]

8 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Why is this even a thread? Both are here, both aren't going anywhere. I hope you didn't hurt your fingers typing that up because it could have been easily avoided pain

Because maybe both shouldn't be here! It's a discussion about what the fans deem as a better option for either. It hurts more to have the same exact thing happen year after year when we all can see the glaring weaknesses this team has, and our GM does very little about it, and then tries when its too late. On top of that screaming about how he is right and we all are wrong about those weaknesses. 

[Buffalo03]

Just now, jaybeezee said:

Because maybe both shouldn't be here! It's a discussion about what the fans deem as a better option for either. It hurts more to have the same exact thing happen year after year when we all can see the glaring weaknesses this team has, and our GM does very little about it, and then tries when its too late. On top of that screaming about how he is right and we all are wrong about those weaknesses. 

Maybe they shouldn't be here but until they are gone, there is no point in talking about who their replacements should be

[jaybeezee]

2 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said:

Maybe they shouldn't be here but until they are gone, there is no point in talking about who their replacements should be

 Both are on borrowed time. Or at least they should be!

[Kirby Jackson]

23 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

Serious question: If we clean house in the FO but then hire Terrance Grey as our new GM do we get the comp pick since our minority staff member got a GM job?

 

Think I just found a way to game the system!

“I think I may have found a way for us to get Bonds and Griffey, and we wouldn't have to give up that much.”

[Buffalo03]

2 minutes ago, jaybeezee said:

 Both are on borrowed time. Or at least they should be!

You're assuming that. It wouldn't surprise me if both are here for the next few years at least. I think Beane actually stays longer than McDermott. I honestly think Pegula is afraid to pull the trigger on both