Who do we want, who do we need as our next HC and, or GM?

[H2o]

8 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

As I've said elsewhere there's no delusion like bills fan delusion. This team will NEVER pursue a guy like this. Instead it'll be a Palmer type guy. Bargain bin. Undersized. Cheap. #1 reason we need a change.

 

 

I mean, the talent is there for sure and he would definitely help the offense, but the guy is a headcase. How much of that will come out even more if you give him big $$$? It would make me nervous for us to give him that contract. 

[Psautcsk]

11 hours ago, Rich Stadium Original said:

17 pages of wishful thinking...sorry to be a wet blanket,  but for those of you who aren't familiar with the owner, Terry Pegula, he also owns the Buffalo Sabres hockey team.

They've had the same GM, who is a likeable guy, who's team hasn't even had a whiff of the playoffs in the 6 years he's been in that position....and hes still around (so far)...

So what do you think the chances are of the same owner firing his GM and/or coach who has won their division each of the last six years??

...This could be a while....

You would think that he is smart enough to see that the Patriots are now the class of the AFC East and it only took them 10 months to get there and that would be a wake up call. A team on the decline with limited cap space and a new stadium should present some urgency to remain relevant. But then again he won't get some new leadership with the new stadium opening.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

1 hour ago, H2o said:

I mean, the talent is there for sure and he would definitely help the offense, but the guy is a headcase. How much of that will come out even more if you give him big $$$? It would make me nervous for us to give him that contract. 

You know what makes me nervous?

 

A WR room that's so bad you're counting on Gabe Davis to be its savior 

[The 9 Isles]

Offensive HC is the only option if you make a  change. 

 

Let’s say McDermott stays, fires Brady and brings in a new OC. 
 

New OC turns around offense and with Allen at the helm adds a little flair to his play calling, instantly that OC is on the HC train for someone else and the Bills need bring someone else and a new system. 
 

The main reason for KC and Mahomes success long term has been Andy Reid and a consistent offensive system. 
 

Allen has played like crap, wr group is lacklustre but the offensive philosophy and roster makeup have McDermotts meddling stink all over them. 
 

 

 

[LarryMadman]

On 11/11/2025 at 4:57 PM, SectionC3 said:

Schoen and this is where it gets tough.  Probably Daboll,  and I recognize the insanity of taking the guys the Giants fired.  But I don’t know that I’d swap out both GM and coach.  If it’s one or the other,  then it’s easy.  Beane is gone.  He fell in love with his guys and did a lot of overpaying and frankly missed too much.  This years WR room did it for me. 

Does anybody know what the relationship between Beane and Daboll was like?

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

9 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Anyone who avoids this 

 

https://x.com/BuffaloKL/status/1988756796727529563?t=LFQ8jiyH_Ti_m-CirbQkqw&s=19

Love it! Everybody go long, Everyone step back!

[LarryMadman]

2 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

Love it! Everybody go long, Everyone step back!

IMO, that is a byproduct of what McDermott wants, short, high percent passes that keep the clock moving, everything this team does or is is McDermotts baby and everybody is just a yes man to him.

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, LarryMadman said:

IMO, that is a byproduct of what McDermott wants, short, high percent passes that keep the clock moving, everything this team does or is is McDermotts baby and everybody is just a yes man to him.

 

He definitely has a say, but Beane also has a say. Terry said that both men have equal power and only report to him so neither one of them is the boss of the other. They are both responsible for where this team is and sadly it appears to be declining this season.

[NastyNateSoldiers]

On 11/12/2025 at 12:43 PM, SoMAn said:

And yet, the team was a couple bad first down spots from possibly going to the super bowl last year. 

They've averaged nearly 12 wins per season since 2019.

They started out this year as super bowl favorites, then won their first 4 games.  They beat perennial powerhouses from KC and Baltimore.

After a 17 year drought, they've made the post season 7 out of the last 8 years.

So what happened?

Maybe fielding a XFL defense after the starting squad has been completely decimated by injury, starting as early as OTAs and continuing right up until the last game.

Their regular season success has prevented them from drafting high enough to get an impact WR as the blue-chippers are long gone by the time the Bills are up to the podium.

I get that many are disappointed with the trajectory of this season, but this is what sometimes happens in the NFL. Last year the Bills exceed expectations. This year they're experiencing a lot of bad breaks. 

Guess what? They may not make the playoffs this year. It's not the end of the world. They may get eliminated in the first round if they get there. 

Maybe an 'off season' could be a blessing in disguise if they can get a draft pick within the top 20 for a change. With a little maneuvering, they could even drop down into the top 15 and get that impact WR.

Whatever happens Chicken Littles, it's not time to blow it all up and start over. There's still hope.

 

 

The draft is full of busts and great players you saying the end of the first round there's no difference makers is a absolute excuse. It's ridiculous. I can sit here for days and days talking about the great players that have been drafted all threw out the draft and even undrafted players. Beane has no clue what a difference making talent looks like and that's a fact

[Nihilarian]

15 hours ago, Kirby Jackson said:

He has a win percentage of .511. Mike McDaniel has a win percentage of .528. 

Geez, Sean McDermott has a win percentage of .657 with a 140 - 92 win record. Had his team in the playoffs 7 of 8 seasons...can we hire that guy? 

[Nihilarian]

2 hours ago, Psautcsk said:

You would think that he is smart enough to see that the Patriots are now the class of the AFC East and it only took them 10 months to get there and that would be a wake up call. A team on the decline with limited cap space and a new stadium should present some urgency to remain relevant. But then again he won't get some new leadership with the new stadium opening.

And this owner is smart enough to know that the Patriots are playing a 4th place schedule while Buffalo plays a first place. 

 

Then at this rate there is a big chance that Patriots OC Josh McDaniel's will get another HCing job offer after this season and perhaps the DC Terrell Williams as well considering both their offense and defense are top ten this season

[NastyNateSoldiers]

On 11/12/2025 at 12:43 PM, SoMAn said:

And yet, the team was a couple bad first down spots from possibly going to the super bowl last year. 

They've averaged nearly 12 wins per season since 2019.

They started out this year as super bowl favorites, then won their first 4 games.  They beat perennial powerhouses from KC and Baltimore.

After a 17 year drought, they've made the post season 7 out of the last 8 years.

So what happened?

Maybe fielding a XFL defense after the starting squad has been completely decimated by injury, starting as early as OTAs and continuing right up until the last game.

Their regular season success has prevented them from drafting high enough to get an impact WR as the blue-chippers are long gone by the time the Bills are up to the podium.

I get that many are disappointed with the trajectory of this season, but this is what sometimes happens in the NFL. Last year the Bills exceed expectations. This year they're experiencing a lot of bad breaks. 

Guess what? They may not make the playoffs this year. It's not the end of the world. They may get eliminated in the first round if they get there. 

Maybe an 'off season' could be a blessing in disguise if they can get a draft pick within the top 20 for a change. With a little maneuvering, they could even drop down into the top 15 and get that impact WR.

Whatever happens Chicken Littles, it's not time to blow it all up and start over. There's still hope.

 

 

Doug Pederson won the Superbowl with the Eagles in 2017, 2 yrs later he was fired. McBeane has had there chance and have never fixed the problems that could've put us over the hump despite nearly putting all there assets into them. How much draft picks and money did they put into the dline all these yrs only to have 1 player during there tenure reach double digits sacks and that player played on a 1 yr contract. They have destroyed our cap and for what or whom really ? I never seen a GM spend so much money on bkup DTs and Wrs .

 

Resource allocation is the most important job for a GM signing a 33yr old Von Miller with a history of torn ACLs wasn't the best use of them. The previous off-season Trey Hendrickson was available and Hasan Reddick do u know that we spent more on Von then both those players signed for combined with there teams? Then we go drafting meddling DE talent to try to cover up the mess only to make things worse Epensesa, Basham and Groot were all drafted during that time I'm willing to bet without even looking that Hassan Reddick has more sacks combined then those 3 players during the very same time frame and Trey Hendrickson I won't even get close to mentioning him because he probably has more sacks then our whole starting dline combined during that same time. I'm not the GM of the Buffalo Bills but I was begging for them to sign Trey and Hassan that off-season. This is just one example of big blunders made by this regime. Imagine they signed those 2 what they could've done with the draft picks they used on the 3 DEs I mentioned all that could've gone to bolstering the offense and making sure Josh has the weapons to complement the defense. 

[Kirby Jackson]

53 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Geez, Sean McDermott has a win percentage of .657 with a 140 - 92 win record. Had his team in the playoffs 7 of 8 seasons...can we hire that guy? 

Must be great to have Josh Allen as your Qb

[Nihilarian]

9 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said:

Must be great to have Josh Allen as your Qb

It is, but he took his team to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor at QB too. 

[Gregg]

10 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

It is, but he took his team to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor at QB too. 

 

Do you think the Bills are going to get to and eventually win a Super Bowl with Beane and McDermott as the GM/HC. After 9 years my answer is NO. The Eagles eventually moved on from Andy Reid, and he had more success in Philly than Sean has had here. IMHO it feels like a change is needed in the FO.

[LarryMadman]

13 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

It is, but he took his team to the playoffs with Tyrod Taylor at QB too. 

A crazy Andy Dalton and Tyler Boyd pass and catch had more to do with that than McDermott did, then what happened in that playoff game against Blake Bortles and Doug Marrone, lol

[SoCal Deek]

1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

The draft is full of busts and great players you saying the end of the first round there's no difference makers is an absolute excuse. It's ridiculous. I can sit here for days and days talking about the great players that have been drafted all threw out the draft and even undrafted players. Beane has no clue what a difference making talent looks like and that's a fact

I couldn’t agree more. So many in this Board are quick to use the excuse that we’re picking later in each round. And yet somehow Beane is able to find players that nobody’s ever heard of in each and every one of them. It’s almost as if the Bills are purposefully trying to build a roster made up entirely of no-name guys who won’t stand out too much, rock the boat, or make any sort of splash. And I’d put it to you that Josh Allen is also just that sort of guy. But in his case he’s just a freakish athletic talent. 

[Nihilarian]

8 minutes ago, Gregg said:

 

Do you think the Bills are going to get to and eventually win a Super Bowl with Beane and McDermott as the GM/HC. After 9 years my answer is NO. The Eagles eventually moved on from Andy Reid, and he had more success in Philly than Sean has had here. IMHO it feels like a change is needed in the FO.

Be sensible, as change won't happen unless there is a great deal of losing involved. I doubt any changes will be made even if this years team doesn't make the playoffs. Clearly this owner is not as frustrated as some of the fans here. My take is most want a SB so badly they aren't thinking straight.

 

The Baltimore Ravens have a two time MVP and haven't gotten to a SB yet and with a SB winning coach so he knows how to do get them there. The freaking Chiefs have been blocking all the AFC teams save that one year that the Bengals got in. And what happened to them since? 

[Gregg]

2 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Be sensible, as change won't happen unless there is a great deal of losing involved. I doubt any changes will be made even if this years team doesn't make the playoffs. Clearly this owner is not as frustrated as some of the fans here. My take is most want a SB so badly they aren't thinking straight.

 

The Baltimore Ravens have a two time MVP and haven't gotten to a SB yet and with a SB winning coach so he knows how to do get them there. The freaking Chiefs have been blocking all the AFC teams save that one year that the Bengals got in. And what happened to them since? 

 

I know change probably isn't happening as Terry likes both McDermott and Beane. If Kim were healthy then I think there would have been a chance for change but unfortunately, she isn't healthy. After 9 years it's time for a change (IMHO). Maybe the players are starting to tune McDermott out. Last week's no-show at Miami wasn't a good look.

[Low Positive]

3 minutes ago, Nihilarian said:

Be sensible, as change won't happen unless there is a great deal of losing involved. I doubt any changes will be made even if this years team doesn't make the playoffs. Clearly this owner is not as frustrated as some of the fans here. My take is most want a SB so badly they aren't thinking straight.

 

The Baltimore Ravens have a two time MVP and haven't gotten to a SB yet and with a SB winning coach so he knows how to do get them there. The freaking Chiefs have been blocking all the AFC teams save that one year that the Bengals got in. And what happened to them since? 

Comparing the Bengals to the Bills is an interesting case study in NFL team building. The Bengals have done the following, in comparison to the Bills

1. Invested their limited resources completely in high-end talent and let all marginal players and high-end players at non-elite positions walk. That means that they have a QB, the best WR room in the NFL (which makes TBDers drool), one highly-paid OT (Orlando Brown), and one elite pass rusher. The rest of their roster is trash. They also let players like Jessee Bates (Safety) and DJ Reeder (DT) walk to get the cap space to pay Higgins, Chase, and Burrow. They also let Germaine Pratt leave this offseason to gather funds to pay Hendrickson.
2. They have let their star QB have complete say in personnel decisions. Burrow demanded that Chase be drafted instead of OL. He also demanded that both Chase and Higgins be paid. He always gets exactly what he wants. 

The Bills, on the other hand, look for value. So, they are trying to win without elite talent at the WR position because those players are, from an analytics standpoint, overpaid based on their game-to-game contributions. They have invested heavily in the OL and DL. Analytics tell you that there is value in doing that. For example, you can't scheme an elite LT out of contributing in a game.

 

I think that neither approach works, but the Bills have had more success in the regular season than the Bengals. The Bills lack the elite talent to get over the hump in the playoffs, while the Bengals fail at trying to outscore everyone. They have been a bad regular season team since 2022. People want to blame Burrow's inuuries, but last year he was healthy for 17 games and the Bengals went 9-8. But they are A LOT more fun to watch.