Battle for the Division: Bill and Pats remaining games poll.

[Kelly to Allen]

Just now, PatsFanNH said:

KC has been a hard team figure out this year good one game got trash the next.. Baltimore was horrid and need win out pretty much make the playoffs. Heck both fighting for their playoff lives

 

KC is not hard to figure out, they're the second best team in the NFL that's been to the AFC championship or SB every year...KC will smoke denver Sunday and also win their division 

 

Baltimore can beat anyone except Buffalo or KC in the playoffs. Baltimore will easily win their division.

 

Pats are a good team that's going to fall back in December. They aren't there yet. 

 

If they were id 100% be honest about it. 

 

 

 

 

[Gunsgoodtime]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

We'll I guess it's over. 

 

It was a great run....

Not really it was pretty awful

[26TrapDraw]

On 11/10/2025 at 6:00 PM, gregmo said:

I don't see the Bills winning the division.  What's crazy is that the Cheatriots have become good again in a very short amount of time.  They tore it down and put it together again very quickly. 

 

Yeah and with the best qb in football here we can’t seem to get our shyt together in the last 5 years

AND

now our unfocused and gun shy QB gets 55 mil a year to hand the ball off and throw 3 yard passes only to watch our defense give up a million first downs on 3rd and long. 
my hot sports opinion:

the Bills are done

too many holes to fill and our gm has mostly missed in the draft the last 5 seasons and dedicated huge money to our “home grown” borderline talent making sure we can’t afford decent free agents.

 

our window is shut and Allen is playing like he knows it.

 

[PatsFanNH]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

KC is not hard to figure out, they're the second best team in the NFL that's been to the AFC championship or SB every year...KC will smoke denver Sunday and also win their division 

 

Baltimore can beat anyone except Buffalo or KC in the playoffs. Baltimore will easily win their division.

 

Pats are a good team that's going to fall back in December. They aren't there yet. 

 

If they were id 100% be honest about it. 

 

 

 

 

Stop going by the past.. KC doesn’t even look like a playoff team this year.. Baltimore prbl will win their division because the division is awful. When the playoffs start it’s anyone’s game

[Kelly to Allen]

1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said:

Stop going by the past.. KC doesn’t even look like a playoff team this year.. Baltimore prbl will win their division because the division is awful. When the playoffs start it’s anyone’s game

 

There's a reason KC and buffalo are the top two favorites to win the AFC

 

Mark this thread in January 

[PatsFanNH]

Just now, Kelly to Allen said:

 

There's a reason KC and buffalo are the top two favorites to win the AFC

 

Mark this thread in January 

No they are not, not anymore… at least not as of Sunday they were not.. besides odd makers make it so people will bet 

[Kelly to Allen]

43 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

No they are not, not anymore… at least not as of Sunday they were not.. besides odd makers make it so people will bet 

On FanDuel KC is 1 in the AFC , buffalo is 2....

 

But regardless we'll see in January 

Edited 52 minutes ago by Kelly to Allen

[mannc]

4 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

On FanDuel KC is 1 in the AFC , buffalo is 2....

 

But regardless we'll see in January 

On DraftKings, Chiefs have the best AFC Super Bowl odds, followed by Indy and then the Bills, but NE has much better odds than the Bills or Chiefs to land the number 1 seed. 

[Kelly to Allen]

5 minutes ago, mannc said:

On DraftKings, Chiefs have the best AFC Super Bowl odds, followed by Indy and then the Bills, but NE has much better odds than the Bills or Chiefs to land the number 1 seed. 

 

FanDuel as of today to win the afc

 

KC +310

Buffalo+460

Ind +470

Baltimore+700

Pats +700

 

 

Buffalo is still a favorite over the pats to win the Superbowl too

 

[Luka]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

There's a reason KC and buffalo are the top two favorites to win the AFC

 

Mark this thread in January 

 

Remember how long the media kept trying to prop the Pats up after Brady left? Don't fall for the marketing. 

[mannc]

5 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

FanDuel as of today to win the afc

 

KC +310

Buffalo+460

Ind +470

Baltimore+700

Pats +700

 

 

Buffalo is still a favorite over the pats to win the Superbowl too

 

There are definitely plenty of Pats skeptics out there, I’ll give you that.

[Kelly to Allen]

As I've said before. If the bills lose to Tampa, I'll be more concerned and will think the dolphins game was more than a letdown.

 

Even then I'm still not picking the pats to go further than buffalo in January.

 

If buffalo keeps losing obviously I'll doubt the bills more. 

 

I saw Patrick Mahomes & the Kansas City Chiefs lose to the aidan o'connell raiders on Christmas in 2023. They were 8-6 and had worse wrs than buffalo....Their offense looked completely lost....they then went on to win the super bowl. 

 

I've seen buffalo left for dead. 6-6 and then everyone picking against them when they were going on the road in Kansas City. The offense looked disjointed.... They went on a serious run cut short by injuries. 

 

Drake Maye looks talented but he hasn't proven any of that yet. 

 

 

 

 

Edited 23 minutes ago by Kelly to Allen

[Luka]

1 hour ago, 26TrapDraw said:

Yeah and with the best qb in football here we can’t seem to get our shyt together in the last 5 years

AND

now our unfocused and gun shy QB gets 55 mil a year to hand the ball off and throw 3 yard passes only to watch our defense give up a million first downs on 3rd and long. 
my hot sports opinion:

the Bills are done

too many holes to fill and our gm has mostly missed in the draft the last 5 seasons and dedicated huge money to our “home grown” borderline talent making sure we can’t afford decent free agents.

 

our window is shut and Allen is playing like he knows it.

 

 

When your star player is asked by a reporter in the offseason "what are your expectations for this season?" and he responds " I don't have any expectations for this team" you should know that it isn't going to be a good year. Not even towing the Super Bowl or Bust line or anything. Just pretty plainly stating he doesn't give a ***** anymore. 

 

Can I blame him?

 

No.

[Kelly to Allen]

4 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

When your star player is asked by a reporter in the offseason "what are your expectations for this season?" and he responds " I don't have any expectations for this team" you should know that it isn't going to be a good year. Not even towing the Super Bowl or Bust line or anything. Just pretty plainly stating he doesn't give a ***** anymore. 

 

Can I blame him?

 

No.

 

I think that's a misreading of that quote.

 

It's more in the context of no expectations like every year is a new year and each year has new challenges. 

 

He has said repeatedly ad nauseam that his goal is to win the super bowl...

Edited 20 minutes ago by Kelly to Allen

[PatsFanNH]

39 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

On FanDuel KC is 1 in the AFC , buffalo is 2....

 

But regardless we'll see in January 

Ahh it shows KC still in the top spot on my apl but the Bills are lower than 2 now.. it’s odds making.. let’s just enjoy the games and yell at our team when they let us down and cheer them when they excel.. because I Harley to say it but things change and they aren’t always right.. see the Pats undefeated reg season and SB prediction and 2001 SB as an example.. 

[Luka]

11 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

I think that's a misreading of that quote.

 

It's more in the context of no expectations like every year is a new year and each year has new challenges. 

 

He has said repeatedly ad nauseam that his goal is to win the super bowl...

 

I don't think so at all. He's got the same look on his face during that interview that he does while he's sitting on the sidelines after turning the ball over in the end zone. He's clearly not putting the work in in the offseason anymore. Looks to be regressing a great deal. His priority is no longer football. And again, with the continued mismanagement of the organization, I really can't blame him. No matter how perfect he plays they can't get over the hump and if he has one off week there's no one on this team that can back him up and they look like the drought Bills all over again. 

[Kelly to Allen]

3 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said:

Ahh it shows KC still in the top spot on my apl but the Bills are lower than 2 now.. it’s odds making.. let’s just enjoy the games and yell at our team when they let us down and cheer them when they excel.. because I Harley to say it but things change and they aren’t always right.. see the Pats undefeated reg season and SB prediction and 2001 SB as an example.. 

 

 

07 pats are the greatest team I've ever seen. I don't think it's close. 

 

Maybe some older ppl saw the 89 49ers or 78 Steelers 

 

 

Just now, Luka said:

 

I don't think so at all. He's got the same look on his face during that interview that he does while he's sitting on the sidelines after turning the ball over in the end zone. He's clearly not putting the work in in the offseason anymore. Looks to be regressing a great deal. His priority is no longer football. And again, with the continued mismanagement of the organization, I really can't blame him. No matter how perfect he plays they can't get over the hump and if he has one off week there's no one on this team that can back him up and they look like the drought Bills all over again. 

What was the KC game? 

 

I agree with you he was not good vs Miami.

[Luka]

2 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 

07 pats are the greatest team I've ever seen. I don't think it's close. 

 

Maybe some older ppl saw the 89 49ers or 78 Steelers 

 

 

What was the KC game? 

 

I agree with you he was not good vs Miami.

 

The KC game, as illustrated time and time again by graphics splashed all over the screen, was a meaningless regular season game for the Chiefs and our Super Bowl. We never beat them when it counts so it isn't really impressive. We also tried to lose that game at the end so it certainly wasn't an impressive win.