Battle for the Division: Bill and Pats remaining games poll.

[BuffaloBillyG]

17 minutes ago, jerryaldini said:

The Bengals are targeting Burrow's first game back being against the Bills.

Not necessarily a bad thing. Coming back maybe with a bit of rust. But let's face it, Flacco threw for 470 yards last week. No matter who the QB is, with those WRs, they will move the ball. 

 

But their defense is still horrible.

Edited 11 hours ago by BuffaloBillyG

[buffblue]

40 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

They're going to drop a couple games outside buffalo & Baltimore. 

 

Don't get me wrong, they're off to a fast start, I think maye will be good but the jury is still out and there's going to be a correction. There always is ...

 

Buffalo is the stronger team. Buffalo is battle tested to say the least. The pats are not

 

Nothing is guaranteed obviously but that's my opinion. 

 

 

 

I'll say this, buffalo is getting healthier vs Tampa. But if we lose vs Tampa then I'll be less confident. 

 

Right now Miami feels like a classic let down spot.

 

Obviously I could be wrong and I understand your pessimism 

Off to a fast start? They've already played 11 out of 17 games and have won 8 in a row. This isn't being 2-0 in September 

[Kelly to Allen]

Just now, buffblue said:

Off to a fast start? They've already played 11 out of 17 games and have won 8 in a row. This isn't being 2-0 in September 

 

And buffalo has 3 losses. Maye is in year 2. 

 

The season doesn't really start until Thanksgiving. Say what you want about bellicheat, but he's right about that. 

 

Buffalo is the stronger team built for December and January. 

[jerryaldini]

2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Not necessarily a bad thing. Coming back maybe with a bit of rust. But let's face it, Flacco threw for 470 yards last week. No matter who the QB is, with those WRs, they will move the ball. 

 

But their defense is still horrible.

It will be fascinating because Bengals fans are sold on Flacco, and they will probably be out of it by then due to their defense. Shouldn't rush Burrow.  There's a narrative now more than ever that Burrow is a product of his receivers.

[BuffaloBillyG]

1 minute ago, jerryaldini said:

It will be fascinating because Bengals fans are sold on Flacco, and they will probably be out of it by then due to their defense. Shouldn't rush Burrow.  There's a narrative now more than ever that Burrow is a product of his receivers.

I think it's more than a narrative. I mean Joe is a good player. But he wasn't anything in college until he had Justin Jefferson and Chase to throw to. And he's been fortunate enough to have at least 2 top level WRs almost his entire NFL career. Flacco and even Browning in his first stint filling in did well. 

[Scott7975]

1 hour ago, Success said:

 

I'm not giving it up yet.

 

I think they're certainly favored right now.  But we have a history of going on late season runs.  I can see the Bengals or Ravens beating them (or both), us beating them, and maybe Miami has a good one in them to end the season.

 

They could lose 2-3 more.  Of course, we'd have to basically run the table - maybe 1 loss.

 

 

sure. Anything can happen. I just don’t think it will this year. 

[Jrb1979]

1 hour ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

They're going to drop a couple games outside buffalo & Baltimore. 

 

Don't get me wrong, they're off to a fast start, I think maye will be good but the jury is still out and there's going to be a correction. There always is ...

 

Buffalo is the stronger team. Buffalo is battle tested to say the least. The pats are not

 

Nothing is guaranteed obviously but that's my opinion. 

 

 

 

I'll say this, buffalo is getting healthier vs Tampa. But if we lose vs Tampa then I'll be less confident. 

 

Right now Miami feels like a classic let down spot.

 

Obviously I could be wrong and I understand your pessimism 

IMO the Miami game wasn't a let down spot.  This Bills team is more like the 2-3 record in the last 5 games than the 4-0 team at the beginning of the season. 

 

The lack of turnovers from the defense has brought this offense back to earth. 

 

The Bills have the worst average starting position in the league. With the way this offense is built now having long fields has hurt them. 

 

As someone posted in another thread, I don't get why they built an offense that chews clock and needs 10-12 plays to get down the field. 

[Kelly to Allen]

2 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

IMO the Miami game wasn't a let down spot.  This Bills team is more like the 2-3 record in the last 5 games than the 4-0 team at the beginning of the season. 

 

The lack of turnovers from the defense has brought this offense back to earth. 

 

The Bills have the worst average starting position in the league. With the way this offense is built now having long fields has hurt them. 

 

As someone posted in another thread, I don't get why they built an offense that chews clock and needs 10-12 plays to get down the field. 

In theory they built the offense like that to close out games in January. 

 

As to the 2-3 record, they've been in worse spots in 23 and 21. 

 

I believe in 23 they were 3-5 over 8 games.

 

KC over 23 & 24 again had these same issues.... 

 

The past doesn't equal the future and maybe you're correct.

 

Im confident with this QB, oline and pass rush they'll get to the AFC championship. 

 

Once they get that far Allen has to take them home.

 

We'll see 

 

In the Allen era starting in 19 they've always won at minimum 10 games 10-5 in 19

 

And got to the div rd or AFC championship every year since 2020. Only KC has achieved the same....

 

I have zero fear either if we're on the road for the entire playoff. Never have with Allen. Maybe it's hubris on my part...

Edited 8 hours ago by Kelly to Allen

[machine gun kelly]

8 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

Agree to disagree 

 

Jury is also still out on maye....

 

Ppl are overreacting to a classic let down loss....

 

Allen is still the 1st or 2nd best qb in the NFL and we all know what  that means.... buffalo has the upper hand 

Kelly, I’m getting back to Mr. BRIGHTSIDE, but even if the Ravens and us beat the Bills, and I believe that’s possible, not necessarily will happen.  The problem is they have to lose to another division opponent.  We also have to run the table, and we still have the Bucs (they are still banged up), the Texans (but they aren’t anything on offense), the Pats, and Eagles.  The other games are pretty easy.  This Dolphins loss is probably the key between AFCE, or Wildcard and most likely 5th seed.

[Psautcsk]

6 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

Not necessarily a bad thing. Coming back maybe with a bit of rust. But let's face it, Flacco threw for 470 yards last week. No matter who the QB is, with those WRs, they will move the ball. 

 

But their defense is still horrible.

The Dolphins defense is horrible.

[Pine Barrens Mafia]

8 hours ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

Because buffalo has the better QB, oline and pass rush. Kincaid will be healthy too

 

They'll boat race the pats if they don't turn it over like the last game 

Nope. As a pure passer we sure don't.

7 hours ago, CincyBillsFan said:

IMO the MVP right now is Stafford, not Mahe.

 

And NE is not "light years better" then the Bills.  

 

 

No? They sure play like it

[Gregg]

We will see in these next 6 days if there is a battle for the division. Tampa and Houston are must wins. Gets them back to 8-3 and a game back of the Pats. Lose one of them and its hello WC assuming they make it.

[Luka]

7 hours ago, Jrb1979 said:

IMO the Miami game wasn't a let down spot.  This Bills team is more like the 2-3 record in the last 5 games than the 4-0 team at the beginning of the season. 

 

The lack of turnovers from the defense has brought this offense back to earth. 

 

The Bills have the worst average starting position in the league. With the way this offense is built now having long fields has hurt them. 

 

As someone posted in another thread, I don't get why they built an offense that chews clock and needs 10-12 plays to get down the field. 

 

Because McDermott is a terrible coach who's afraid of another 13 second game. His whole philosophy now revolves around mitigating the defense's responsibility for this team's failures. The ship is sinking fast. Soon we will start hearing murmurs of Josh wanting out. And for good reason. He could go to his favorite child hood team, live near his farm and his wife's job and have a coach in Shanahan that somehow gets the Niners close every year, even with Mr. Irrelevant and Mac Jones at QB. 

 

When Josh said "I have no expectations for the team this year" what he was really saying is "I am over this bull####." 

 

[Kelly to Allen]

2 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Nope. As a pure passer we sure don't.

No? They sure play like it

 

 

 

[Kelly to Allen]

18 minutes ago, Luka said:

 

Because McDermott is a terrible coach who's afraid of another 13 second game. His whole philosophy now revolves around mitigating the defense's responsibility for this team's failures. The ship is sinking fast. Soon we will start hearing murmurs of Josh wanting out. And for good reason. He could go to his favorite child hood team, live near his farm and his wife's job and have a coach in Shanahan that somehow gets the Niners close every year, even with Mr. Irrelevant and Mac Jones at QB. 

 

When Josh said "I have no expectations for the team this year" what he was really saying is "I am over this bull####." 

 

 

We'll I guess it's over. 

 

It was a great run....

[nedboy7]

2 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

Nope. As a pure passer we sure don't.

No? They sure play like it

 

People are in denial.  It might be better for this team to collapse.  Then some change can take place.  Looks like it is heading in that direction.  

[streetkings01]

11 hours ago, major said:

Bills will win out 

Yea ok 🫡

 

We’re more likely to go 4-4 in our next 8 then 8-0.

[CincyBillsFan]

3 hours ago, Pine Barrens Mafia said:

 

No? They sure play like it

Are you citing last nights game as evidence of this?  NE is playing better then the Bills at this moment but that's not the same thing as saying NE is playing "light years" better then Buffalo.  

 

 

[Kelly to Allen]

1 hour ago, nedboy7 said:

 

People are in denial.  It might be better for this team to collapse.  Then some change can take place.  Looks like it is heading in that direction.  

 

 

Like vs KC? or Baltimore?

 

Can't wait to play Baltimore again in the playoffs and hear about how great the Ravens roster is lol

 

This team has one psychological hurdle to overcome and that's Kansas City in the playoffs 

 

 

[PatsFanNH]

7 minutes ago, Kelly to Allen said:

 

 

Like vs KC? or Baltimore?

 

Can't wait to play Baltimore again in the playoffs and hear about how great the Ravens roster is lol

 

This team has one psychological hurdle to overcome and that's Kansas City in the playoffs 

 

 

KC has been a hard team figure out this year good one game got trash the next.. Baltimore was horrid and need win out pretty much make the playoffs. Heck both fighting for their playoff lives