3rdand12 Posted 8 hours ago Posted 8 hours ago 22 hours ago, BillsFan130 said: To play devils advocate- What does Hardman bring that Samuel or Moore doesn't? Speed? Well samuel ran a 4.31, Moore a 4.35 and Hardman ran a 4.33 I don't think Joe brady has much of an idea to use his receivers and scheme them open, so this just seems like a redundant/lateral move IMO. I am not killing Beane as I guess you got to try something, but I don't really see a path to this being an upgrade I wonder what each of them run now ? Who is the best at getting off press or the 5 yard rule hand fighting to get off Not an upgrade prolly. Just maybe and upgrade 1 Quote
milfandcookies Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago Looked him up and I gotta say it’s surprising he was available 1 Quote
Low Positive Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 7 minutes ago, milfandcookies said: Looked him up and I gotta say it’s surprising he was available he got injured in the 2022 season and hasn't been the same since. 1 Quote
3rdand12 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 21 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Valid. My hope is that Hardman actually has been used as a deep threat before. Moore and Samuel, even though they have speed is not something either is strong at. Being a legit deep threat takes more than just a fast 40 time. It's the Willie Gault rule. You can have all the speed in the world but if you can't track that deep pass it's no good. This , most certainly. Why stats can't always tell the whole story. 1 Quote
Scott7975 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 8 hours ago, 90sBills said: He’s both. The problem with him is route running. That’s why KC used him for sweeps and returns. im not optimistic about this signing at all but maybe he can be good on scramble drills? It seems to me that this is what the offense doesn’t have this year that it had last year… someone Josh finds when he escapes the pocket and throws some miracle ball. Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 30 minutes ago, 3rdand12 said: Age perhaps ? And Mecole was not on a team , which means he was less desirable , to me at least. But yea conceptually , he fits the need. Agreed i just think there is this huge overinflation of some of these guys leading up to the trade deadline. Some people were viewing Shaheed like he was the next Jerry rice! We just need a fast guy that can open things up. There are a lot of guys like that. 1 2 Quote
3rdand12 Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago 6 hours ago, Big Turk said: Just have Hardman run deep and Allen throw the ball as far as he can and let him run under it. How hard can this be to try 2-3x a game? At least it will force the D to back off a little. please and thank you. That's all we need him for currently 5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i just think there is this huge overinflation of some of these guys leading up to the trade deadline. Some people were viewing Shaheed like he was the next Jerry rice! We just need a fast guy that can open things up. There are a lot of guys like that. Well I wanted Olave, but Shaheed made more sense at this point. Most of us agree with you and bolded Even better if he can catch a few of those 😋 Quote
WideNine Posted 7 hours ago Posted 7 hours ago My biggest question is even with the speed added to the roster; will Brady use it? I have loved our 13 personnel look with the talent we have at TE, but with Kincaid not available what the Bills can do out of those looks becomes more limited. The Bills should lean more into the WRs with speed they already have on the roster and run with more 11 and 12 personnel. We have to get teams to pay for how often they are not using any safety help over top allowing them (especially on early downs) to play the run and hem Allen in the pocket. That probably starts with getting Keon off the field. Not everything is this young man's fault, but he has not done enough to earn the reps he has been given so that is the first change. They may want to use him to return kicks and punts like he did in college, but I don't know if he is still bought into the program. Things like this can really test a young player's pride and maturity. We need more of a true veteran X-receiver, and we have that in Palmer who I sincerely hope is healthy again. Moore should be in the lineup on the boundary, and then Shakir and Samuel can share snaps in the slot as they are pretty good at finding soft spots in the zone, both have RAC, both are pretty good with motion and screens. It those guys start making teams pay getting open and giving Allen more answers downfield then that will open things up for Cook too. We had a bad run game plan with Miami expecting more out of our zone runs and cutbacks and they were disciplined and took those cutback lanes away. The Bills coaching staff needs to have a better run game plan coming into the Tampa game but even if they do, it does not change the fact that the passing game needs to be fixed. Kincaid has proven he could be a dynamic piece of the Bills offense for years to come, but the thing that may get in the way of that is his penchant for missing games with injury. I have been really stoked that he and Allen seem to be on the same page this season, but the flip side of that is Allen looks lost when Kincaid is not out there. 1 Quote
BVBILLS Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago I seriously can't stand how this roster is being managed Quote
90sBills Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: im not optimistic about this signing at all but maybe he can be good on scramble drills? It seems to me that this is what the offense doesn’t have this year that it had last year… someone Josh finds when he escapes the pocket and throws some miracle ball. There’s definitely hope for that. He was that way for Mahomes. 1 Quote
jlatas Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i just think there is this huge overinflation of some of these guys leading up to the trade deadline. Some people were viewing Shaheed like he was the next Jerry rice! We just need a fast guy that can open things up. There are a lot of guys like that. I totally agree with your point...do you feel that Samuel and Moore could also haul ass downfield to keep the defenses honest? 1 Quote
Ga boy Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: i just think there is this huge overinflation of some of these guys leading up to the trade deadline. Some people were viewing Shaheed like he was the next Jerry rice! We just need a fast guy that can open things up. There are a lot of guys like that. Absofunlutely!! Stretching the field leaves more space for the other guys to make a play. Everyone’s been saying that speed produces winning, and winning is more fun. 32 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: Tough customer 1 Quote
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 32 minutes ago, jlatas said: I totally agree with your point...do you feel that Samuel and Moore could also haul ass downfield to keep the defenses honest? my buddy watched some of the film from a few games ago and was surprised how Samuel was actually doing a nice job of running a lot of clearing routes. So I think he has it in him. 1 Quote
Comebackkid Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 main questions for free agent wr. 1. can you block? 2. can you run routes as a decoy? 3. can you block? 1 Quote
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: my buddy watched some of the film from a few games ago and was surprised how Samuel was actually doing a nice job of running a lot of clearing routes. So I think he has it in him. Samuel should be our number 1 WR. I have no idea why we are wasting him. The guy is way better than Colman and Palmer is just a guy. I’d have already been starting and replacing all the snaps of Colman with Samuel. What do we have to lose Quote
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