Game week thread - Buccaneers at Bills

[Slack_in_MA]

15 minutes ago, Psautcsk said:

I have Patriot PTSD especially living in New England

I feel your pain. These last 37 years of my adult life with 99% of (local) friends and family as Pats fans. Shouldn’t I get combat pay or something? 😩 

[Psautcsk]

7 minutes ago, Slack_in_MA said:

I feel your pain. These last 37 years of my adult life with 99% of (local) friends and family as Pats fans. Shouldn’t I get combat pay or something? 😩 

Right there with you!

[Dillenger4]

The game this Sunday is huge now that the Pats have 9 wins. They look GOOD! Maye throws a pretty ball, Hunter is a stud, their OC calls a great game, very well coached Defense. Bills need to show me they are still hungry this weekend.

[MiltonWaddams]

24 minutes ago, Dillenger4 said:

The game this Sunday is huge now that the Pats have 9 wins. They look GOOD! Maye throws a pretty ball, Hunter is a stud, their OC calls a great game, very well coached Defense. Bills need to show me they are still hungry this weekend.

Last night was the only Pats game this season that I watched beginning to end aside from the Bills game. They are a really, really good team in all facets. I love our Bills, but I would be blown away if they got it together sufficiently to go into Foxboro and take out the team we saw last night. The Pats have more talent at every level, save RB and QB. It hurts me to say it, but the quarterback play is a wash this season. Drake Maye is an extremely talented player and he has a good head on his shoulders. His accuracy, decision making and poise are frustratingly impressive.

 

The more I see the Pats succeed this season, the more angry I become with McBeane and their inability to get over the hump the past 5 seasons. The window of opportunity is being closed due to arrogance and ineptitude.

Edited 2 hours ago by MiltonWaddams

[finn]

1 hour ago, Slack_in_MA said:

I feel your pain. These last 37 years of my adult life with 99% of (local) friends and family as Pats fans. Shouldn’t I get combat pay or something? 😩 

I hate that their time in the wilderness has been so short. Of all the fanbases in the country, New England (or at least Massachusetts) most deserves decades of misery. Quite apart from the obnoxiousness that seems baked in, it's just not right that the Celtics, Bruins, and Red Sox are perpetually good. 

[MiltonWaddams]

1 minute ago, finn said:

I hate that their time in the wilderness has been so short. Of all the fanbases in the country, New England (or at least Massachusetts) most deserves decades of misery. Quite apart from the obnoxiousness that seems baked in, it's just not right that the Celtics, Bruins, and Red Sox are perpetually good. 

The Brady-led Pats teams were so easy to hate. I hate the Pats, but I actually enjoyed watching the brand of football that they played last night. Maye, at this point, is a very likeable guy with a good attitude. Diggs, who I really liked on the Bills but now dislike vehemently, was exceptional at finding holes in the defence as he has eternally been. The defence was opportunistic and stout. Dammit!! I hate myself for everything that I just wrote!!

[Shortchaz]

not to mention the pats will be coming off their bye when we play them.

11 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Last night was the only Pats game this season that I watched beginning to end aside from the Bills game. They are a really, really good team in all facets. I love our Bills, but I would be blown away if they got it together sufficiently to go into Foxboro and take out the team we saw last night. The Pats have more talent at every level, save RB and QB. It hurts me to say it, but the quarterback play is a wash this season. Drake Maye is an extremely talented player and he has a good head on his shoulders. His accuracy, decision making and poise are frustratingly impressive.

 

The more I see the Pats succeed this season, the more angry I become with McBeane and their inability to get over the hump the past 5 seasons. The window of opportunity is being closed due to arrogance and ineptitude.

[finn]

3 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

Last night was the only Pats game this season that I watched beginning to end aside from the Bills game. They are a really, really good team in all facets. I love our Bills, but I would be blown away if they got it together sufficiently to go into Foxboro and take out the team we saw last night. The Pats have more talent at every level, save RB and QB. It hurts me to say it, but the quarterback play is a wash this season. Drake Maye is an extremely talented player and he has a good head on his shoulders. His accuracy, decision making and poise are frustratingly impressive.

 

The more I see the Pats succeed this season, the more angry I become with McBeane and their inability to get over the hump the past 5 seasons. The window if opportunity is being closed due to arrogance and ineptitude.

The Bills have the feel of a team that missed its moment, an old veteran bear still capable of mauling anyone but tired, deeply tired. New England is like the big youngster new on the scene ready to take over the territory. 

 

The Bills need a fresh start. Not a rebuild, at all, but fresh leadership. McDermott and his coordinators have been figured out (and never were elite), and Beane is just spinning his wheels at this point, reactive instead of proactive, always one step behind his peers, with a stale vision for the team. 

 

I don't see it happening, though. As others have said, an owner that would tolerate a perpetual loser in the Sabres is never going to fire a coach and GM with the record of McDermott and Beane. Meanwhile, we will continuing telling each other, "All we need is a wide receiver. And a pass rush. And a linebacker. THEN we'll go all the way!" It's better than the wasteland years, but it's still a pretty depressing scenario. Groundhog day with Sean and Brandon. 

[CincyBillsFan]

1 hour ago, Casey D said:

You don't win a SB in November.  They have done enough the last five years to make me give them the benefit of the doubt even after that debacle in Miami.  They may disappoint me, but as a Bills fan for over 50 years disappointment is a dear friend.  I'll let this play out, like I did after the awful wind game in 2021.  And even if this is not their year, with Allen this team will always have a chance, if we can add the right pieces in the off season, either with this regime or another.  The re-ascendancy of the Pats-- which was unexpected this year and makes it somewhat traumatic-- is just another team to beat like the Chiefs (although they have done nothing yet to make them anywhere near as dangerous).  It's just competition, and at the end that's what makes it fun, notwithstanding the Patriot PTSD.

Agree.  Nothing has been set in stone for either the Bills or Patriots in November. In addition to the Bills history, where they have been in worse situations then they are now, Tampa won a SB in 2020 after starting 7 - 6.  They were a wild card that had to play all 3 playoff games on the road.  Cincinnati went to a SB in 2021 having to win 2 playoff games on the road. Last season the Lions roared to the #1 seed only to lose in round 1.  The Ravens have specialized in gaining the #1 seed and not making it to the SB.  

 

 

[finn]

8 minutes ago, MiltonWaddams said:

The Brady-led Pats teams were so easy to hate. I hate the Pats, but I actually enjoyed watching the brand of football that they played last night. Maye, at this point, is a very likeable guy with a good attitude. Diggs, who I really liked on the Bills but now dislike vehemently, was exceptional at finding holes in the defence as he has eternally been. The defence was opportunistic and stout. Dammit!! I hate myself for everything that I just wrote!!

Diggs must love sticking it to the Bills after Allen showed the world last year he didn't need him by winning MVP. 

[GroteStreet]

3 hours ago, UKBillFan said:

 

I would just be thankful we'd made the post season at this point.

If we just sneak into the playoffs, not make it to the superbowl, and save mcbeane's job in the process, is that something to be thankful for?  Is it better to go 4-4 the rest of the season and get a new coach and gm next year?

[Goin Breakdown]

6 minutes ago, finn said:

Diggs must love sticking it to the Bills after Allen showed the world last year he didn't need him by winning MVP. 

Last years MVP sure means a lot right now. Anyone who watches this team knows they are not very good. So yeah I'm sure Diggs is loving it to a degree right now. 

[Bills!Win!]

The Tampa Bay game in 2021 turned our season around. I’m hoping for more of the same on Sunday 

[Kelly to Allen]

1 hour ago, finn said:

The Bills have the feel of a team that missed its moment, an old veteran bear still capable of mauling anyone but tired, deeply tired. New England is like the big youngster new on the scene ready to take over the territory. 

 

The Bills need a fresh start. Not a rebuild, at all, but fresh leadership. McDermott and his coordinators have been figured out (and never were elite), and Beane is just spinning his wheels at this point, reactive instead of proactive, always one step behind his peers, with a stale vision for the team. 

 

I don't see it happening, though. As others have said, an owner that would tolerate a perpetual loser in the Sabres is never going to fire a coach and GM with the record of McDermott and Beane. Meanwhile, we will continuing telling each other, "All we need is a wide receiver. And a pass rush. And a linebacker. THEN we'll go all the way!" It's better than the wasteland years, but it's still a pretty depressing scenario. Groundhog day with Sean and Brandon. 

 

I mean buffalo is younger than the pats in some key areas... 

 

Diggs, Hollins & Henry are all 32, 32, and 30

Hooper is 31

Bradbury is 30

 

Carlton Davis is 29

 

Spillane is 30. Landry has has had multiple knee injuries. They just lost Milton Williams. Morgan Moses is like 34

 

Did you see diggs slow to get up and holding his oblique area...?

 

They're going to fall back in December 

 

Buffalo and KC will ascend in December 

 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by Kelly to Allen

[Billsfanatic8989]

53 minutes ago, CincyBillsFan said:

Agree.  Nothing has been set in stone for either the Bills or Patriots in November. In addition to the Bills history, where they have been in worse situations then they are now, Tampa won a SB in 2020 after starting 7 - 6.  They were a wild card that had to play all 3 playoff games on the road.  Cincinnati went to a SB in 2021 having to win 2 playoff games on the road. Last season the Lions roared to the #1 seed only to lose in round 1.  The Ravens have specialized in gaining the #1 seed and not making it to the SB.  

 

 

I guess there are two different discussions for me. 

 

Is the division race over? Of course not. It won't be even with a loss on Sunday. Still 7 games left. Though, can't afford a 5th loss. Because that may make that December 14h game in Foxborough not as important. 

 

Winning a SB? I just don't see it happening. And frankly, that's the only thing we care about. 

 

If the Bills win the division and do not make it to the SB, it's still another year wasted. Nobody will care about winning the division.

Edited 1 hour ago by Billsfanatic8989

[Jrb1979]

3 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

The Tampa Bay game in 2021 turned our season around. I’m hoping for more of the same on Sunday 

Many keep looking at how this team did in past years and assuming the same is going to happen this season.   

 

Unless the defense starts getting more timely turnovers and  their average starting field position improves from the worst in the league, I think this team will struggle to win games. 

[zow2]

Let's not forget, the Bills could be 2-0 before the Patriots even play again.

 

Although they could be 0-2 or 1-1 as well.  That might be all NE needs to clinch the East.

[Big Turk]

1 hour ago, finn said:

The Bills have the feel of a team that missed its moment, an old veteran bear still capable of mauling anyone but tired, deeply tired. New England is like the big youngster new on the scene ready to take over the territory. 

 

The Bills need a fresh start. Not a rebuild, at all, but fresh leadership. McDermott and his coordinators have been figured out (and never were elite), and Beane is just spinning his wheels at this point, reactive instead of proactive, always one step behind his peers, with a stale vision for the team. 

 

I don't see it happening, though. As others have said, an owner that would tolerate a perpetual loser in the Sabres is never going to fire a coach and GM with the record of McDermott and Beane. Meanwhile, we will continuing telling each other, "All we need is a wide receiver. And a pass rush. And a linebacker. THEN we'll go all the way!" It's better than the wasteland years, but it's still a pretty depressing scenario. Groundhog day with Sean and Brandon. 

 

Only going to get worse with Maye still on a rookie deal for 2 more years.

[Scott7975]

 

[dcinmuncie]

with all the 'sky is falling' narrative, admittedly much of it from myself

 

i can't help but having the feeling that with the fans writing them off, the media writing them off that they are about to go on a huge run and win it all. One thing i've learned in watching football since 1990 is nothing is ever as it seems