What’s going on with practices/warmups

[WIDE LEFT]

It’s understood that injuries are just a part of playing in the NFL, but wow we seem to be stacking up a lot of injuries in practices & warmups,  not actual games. Hairston, D. Jones, now Taron Johnson among others. Getting healthy by seasons end would be huge. Dial it down in practice a bit? 

[Royale with Cheese]

I honestly think it’s because athletes are getting stronger and faster.  
 

I know in the old school football, people assume the game was tougher.  Tougher in the sense of rougher, yes.  But the impact, its 100% today’s game.  
 

You didn’t have 300+ guards who run 5.2 - 40 yard dashes pulling, you didn’t have 210 lbs safeties who run 4.4 - 40 yard dashes etc…

 

These guys might not get closed line anymore but the play by play pounding, its much tougher today.  Its bigger bodies moving faster and hitting each other.

 

Even with advanced medicine and training, they are still breaking down.

Edited 15 hours ago by Royale with Cheese

[Returntoglory]

Poor conditioning .

[quincy]

I wonder whether the practices are more "intense" since McD is now calling the plays on D. 

 

I can't previously remember a brand new injury occuring from a Friday practice. 

[T.E.]

47 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I honestly think it’s because athletes are getting stronger and faster.  
 

I know in the old school football, people assume the game was tougher.  Tougher in the sense of rougher, yes.  But the impact, its 100% today’s game.  
 

You didn’t have 300+ guards who run 5.2 - 40 yard dashes pulling, you didn’t have 210 lbs safeties who run 4.4 - 40 yard dashes or 240 etc…

 

These guys might not get closed line anymore but the play by play pounding, its much tougher today.  Its bigger bodies moving faster and hitting each other.

 

Even with advanced medicine and training, they are still breaking down.

This has a big effect during games, of course, but doesn't the current CBA significantly limit the number of padded,  full-contact practices a team can have during a season? The sessions during the week are way less physically demanding than they once were.

[Augie]

Hyper conditioning. 

 

 

 

I said nothing about juicing 😊

[US Egg]

The NFL player is more machine than ever and spending more time than ever tuning their bodies. Bodies weren’t meant for that regardless of the advances in science and technology to condition them.
 

The breakdowns are not unique to any team.

[BuffaloBillyG]

21 minutes ago, US Egg said:

The NFL player is more machine than ever and spending more time than ever tuning their bodies. Bodies weren’t meant for that regardless of the advances in science and technology to condition them.
 

The breakdowns are not unique to any team.

 

1 hour ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I honestly think it’s because athletes are getting stronger and faster.  
 

I know in the old school football, people assume the game was tougher.  Tougher in the sense of rougher, yes.  But the impact, its 100% today’s game.  
 

You didn’t have 300+ guards who run 5.2 - 40 yard dashes pulling, you didn’t have 210 lbs safeties who run 4.4 - 40 yard dashes etc…

 

These guys might not get closed line anymore but the play by play pounding, its much tougher today.  Its bigger bodies moving faster and hitting each other.

 

Even with advanced medicine and training, they are still breaking down.

As Egg points out. These injuries aren't exclusive to the Bills. This is something that is happe league wide and has for a couple seasons. 

 

As Cheese points out. The game may be "safer" from what is allowed on the field. But these are people that are freaks of nature. The size/speen on an NFL field these days is a deadly combination. Bodies can only handle so much. 

 

There are also a lot of cases that players are given the injury tag on a Wednesday that got injured the games before. You see guys go down and get hurt, then finish the game. Be it with medical assistance (pain killers) or adrenaline... sometimes the injury isn't felt and discovered until a few days later. Like with Pacheco this week.

[Brand J]

1 hour ago, T.E. said:

This has a big effect during games, of course, but doesn't the current CBA significantly limit the number of padded,  full-contact practices a team can have during a season? The sessions during the week are way less physically demanding than they once were.

I’d love to see injury statistics in the 90s (where two-a-days were common) versus now. It does seem like the less a player practices and plays, the more prone to injury he’ll be when he does get on the field. I think those 80s and 90s guys were so calloused up that soft tissue injuries really didn’t have a chance. Maybe they protected themselves better too, knowing vicious hits were part of the game. Would be an interesting study. 

[Coldfronts]

I blame Advanced Glycation End-Products (AGEs)

[WotAGuy]

Hell, I’m breaking down putting socks on. 

[SCBills]

What does KC do?  Because aside from Rashee Rice last year, they rarely face the injury bug like other teams. 
 

They haven’t even had their bye yet and they’re only down Pacheco and Simmons, Simmons not even injury related.

 

Meanwhile the Ravens were decimated up until this past week, we’ve been a triage unit most of the year.. Jacksonville has Travis Hunter on IR after a practice injury.   The Bengals can’t keep any QB healthy.  It goes on and on. 

[D. L. Hot-Flamethrower]

3 minutes ago, SCBills said:

What does KC do?  Because aside from Rashee Rice last year, they rarely face the injury bug like other teams. 
 

They haven’t even had their bye yet and they’re only down Pacheco and Simmons, Simmons not even injury related.

 

Meanwhile the Ravens were decimated up until this past week, we’ve been a triage unit most of the year.. Jacksonville has Travis Hunter on IR after a practice injury.   The Bengals can’t keep any QB healthy.  It goes on and on. 

They follow the Andy Reid diet. Cheeseburgers are a great cure all!

[Big Turk]

3 hours ago, WIDE LEFT said:

It’s understood that injuries are just a part of playing in the NFL, but wow we seem to be stacking up a lot of injuries in practices & warmups,  not actual games. Hairston, D. Jones, now Taron Johnson among others. Getting healthy by seasons end would be huge. Dial it down in practice a bit? 

 

I mean Anthony Richardson put himself on IR warming up with a resistance band and giving himself and orbital bone fracture.

 

Takes a special type of talent to do that.

[dwight in philly]

2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I honestly think it’s because athletes are getting stronger and faster.  
 

I know in the old school football, people assume the game was tougher.  Tougher in the sense of rougher, yes.  But the impact, its 100% today’s game.  
 

You didn’t have 300+ guards who run 5.2 - 40 yard dashes pulling, you didn’t have 210 lbs safeties who run 4.4 - 40 yard dashes etc…

 

These guys might not get closed line anymore but the play by play pounding, its much tougher today.  Its bigger bodies moving faster and hitting each other.

 

Even with advanced medicine and training, they are still breaking down.

There has to be some merit to that.. As an "oldtimer" , just dont remember injuries like this  in the 60's thru the early 90's. It wasnt a major story every day .. Now the injury report is first and foremost.. 

[Augie]

2 minutes ago, Big Turk said:

 

I mean Anthony Richardson put himself on IR warming up with a resistance band and giving himself and orbital bone fracture.

 

Takes a special type of talent to do that.

 

I’ll go ahead and tell on myself. In a little league football game my buddy forgot to wear his cup, and when the ref went down the line telling us to knock on our cups he was ruled out for the game. I was giving him grief and having a good time doing it. We were in front of the concession stand and I turned to run out onto the field, but as I turned I learned the flagpole was directly behind me. I hit my forehead and got one of those giant goose eggs on my forehead. It looked like someone put a golf ball under my skin, and it was so big I couldn’t get my helmet on so I sat with him on the bench the whole game. 

 

Karma, it can bite you on the arse. 

[90sBills]

30 minutes ago, SCBills said:

What does KC do?  Because aside from Rashee Rice last year, they rarely face the injury bug like other teams. 
 

They haven’t even had their bye yet and they’re only down Pacheco and Simmons, Simmons not even injury related.

 

Meanwhile the Ravens were decimated up until this past week, we’ve been a triage unit most of the year.. Jacksonville has Travis Hunter on IR after a practice injury.   The Bengals can’t keep any QB healthy.  It goes on and on. 

They lost Rice, Hollywood, Pacheco, Watson, Moore for most, if not all, of last season. No NFL team is immune to injuries. 

[SCBills]

10 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

They lost Rice, Hollywood, Pacheco, Watson, Moore for most, if not all, of last season. No NFL team is immune to injuries. 

Not all.. only Rice missed all of the year. 
 

Am I supposed to be moved by that?.. especially when they’re constantly the healthiest team in the AFC Playoffs?

 

Last few years we’ve lost:

 

Prime Tre for the year. 

Post- Super Bowl monster Von for the year. 

 

Milano & Jones for the year. 
 

Oliver for the year. 

 

This year… Oliver done. Rapp IR. Sanders IR.  Strong IR. Milano in and out. Bernard in and out. Brown missed a game. Kincaid in and out. Palmer in and out. Samuel in and out. Jones in and out. 
 

Heading into KC week.. 

 

Down DT Oliver (year), DT Sanders, DT Jones, S Rapp (year), LB Shaq, CB Strong, WR Palmer, potentially NCB Taron. 

 

Edited 13 hours ago by SCBills

[90sBills]

9 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Not all.. only Rice missed all of the year. 
 

Am I supposed to be moved by that?.. especially when they’re constantly the healthiest team in the AFC Playoffs?

 

Last few years we’ve lost:

 

Prime Tre for the year. 

Post- Super Bowl monster Von for the year. 

 

Milano & Jones for the year. 
 

Oliver for the year. 

 

This year… Oliver done. Rapp IR. Sanders IR.  Strong IR. Milano in and out. Bernard in and out. Brown missed a game. Kincaid in and out. Palmer in and out. Samuel in and out. Jones in and out. 
 

Heading into KC week.. 

 

Down DT Oliver (year), DT Sanders, DT Jones, S Rapp (year), LB Shaq, CB Strong, WR Palmer, potentially NCB Taron. 

 

Wasn’t meant to move you. Just pointing out that injuries happens. Some teams can handle them better than others. 

[Augie]

11 minutes ago, SCBills said:

Not all.. only Rice missed all of the year. 
 

Am I supposed to be moved by that?.. especially when they’re constantly the healthiest team in the AFC Playoffs?

 

Last few years we’ve lost:

 

Prime Tre for the year. 

Post- Super Bowl monster Von for the year. 

 

Milano & Jones for the year. 
 

Oliver for the year. 

 

This year… Oliver done. Rapp IR. Sanders IR.  Strong IR. Milano in and out. Bernard in and out. Brown missed a game. Kincaid in and out. Palmer in and out. Samuel in and out. Jones in and out. 
 

Heading into KC week.. 

 

Down DT Oliver (year), DT Sanders, DT Jones, S Rapp (year), LB Shaq, CB Strong, WR Palmer, potentially NCB Taron. 

 

 

Is this just bad luck, or do you have somebody to blame? 

 

I think in the long run it mostly even out. One of the most amazing things about the NFL to me is that small group of guys who can play a dozen or so years and only miss a few snaps over a career. That is crazy, superhuman kinda stuff.