Hate to say this … but the Pats are effing good

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

12 hours ago, May Day 10 said:

Id also say it is very tough to win all the 'easy' games.  That in of itself is a mark of an actually good team.  

They can still be good and overrated at the same time. I don’t think they are 1 seed good like people are starting to proclaim. They are going to run into a buzz saw when they face the Lamar Jackson-led Ravens and i can’t wait. 

[zow2]

4 hours ago, DapperCam said:

Pats will drop the Jets game. Divisional matchup on Thursday Night Football with a young QB is a recipe for sicko football.

 

They might, but it’s only because they are due to lose a game they should win and the NFL can be unpredictable.   They are definitely better than the NYJ.

[cle23]

4 hours ago, DapperCam said:

Pats will drop the Jets game. Divisional matchup on Thursday Night Football with a young QB is a recipe for sicko football.

 

The Jets had -5 yards passing at the half on Sunday. 42 of their 56 total passing yards came on a screen pass. They aren't beating any halfway competent team.  

[Billsfed1]

They’ve done as good a job as they can, there’s no disputing that.  

 

But you do get the sense a slip up is coming...based on the fact no run lasts forever, and they’ve really slowed down the past two weeks.  

 

The results as of Sunday should be interesting 

 

[Joe Ferguson]

I'm still not sold on Drake Maye. He's due for a few stinkers later this season.

[Success]

36 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said:

I'm still not sold on Drake Maye. He's due for a few stinkers later this season.

 

He wasn't that good this past week, but it got pretty overlooked because they pulled off a win against a legit team.  

 

Seems to rely on the long ball quite a bit - he definitely has a good one, but it seems like that's something DC's can adjust to over time.  It's hard to tell if he'll have an upward trajectory or if this was just a great stretch.

 

 

[Buffalo716]

10 minutes ago, Success said:

 

He wasn't that good this past week, but it got pretty overlooked because they pulled off a win against a legit team.  

 

Seems to rely on the long ball quite a bit - he definitely has a good one, but it seems like that's something DC's can adjust to over time.  It's hard to tell if he'll have an upward trajectory or if this was just a great stretch.

 

 

He's a super talented quarterback I got to watch him in high school and college a good amount 

 

He has all the tools but so do most first round picks 

 

He struggles with his consistency as well when he loses it a bit or gets into a downstretch.. he doesn't bounce back as good 

 

Nobody's going to play it in MVP level forever so yeah how he bounces back from his downstretch is going to show a bunch 

 

Does he come back to pro bowl form or does he come back to an average quarterback

[Billsfanatic8989]

I'm still convinced Maye will be a good, but not great QB. They will need alot of talent around him to ever win a SB. 

 

He can't dink and dunk. He escapes the pocket too quickly. Runs recklessly. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:18 AM by Billsfanatic8989

[Jeffbigalls]

11 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

I'm still convinced Maye will be a good, but not great QB. They will need alot of talent around him to ever win a SB. 

 

He can't dink and dunk. He escapes the pocket too quickly. Runs recklessly. 

Maybe maybe not

 

15 hours ago, ChronicAndKnuckles said:

They can still be good and overrated at the same time. I don’t think they are 1 seed good like people are starting to proclaim. They are going to run into a buzz saw when they face the Lamar Jackson-led Ravens and i can’t wait. 

Cause vrable can't put together away to beat Baltimore lol 

[zow2]

11 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

I'm still convinced Maye will be a good, but not great QB. They will need alot of talent around him to ever win a SB. 

 

He can't dink and dunk. He escapes the pocket too quickly. Runs recklessly. 

 

He's certainly better today, than I thought he'd be at this point in his young career.  He's got to be careful running, as you say.  We just saw Dart get concussed and it's obviously a pretty bad one having to miss this weeks game.  Stroud got concussed running two weeks ago, he's still not right.  It's a serious thing.

[50yrpatsfan]

11 hours ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

I'm still convinced Maye will be a good, but not great QB. They will need alot of talent around him to ever win a SB. 

 

He can't dink and dunk. He escapes the pocket too quickly. Runs recklessly. 

Watch him and you'll realize he's already as good as Burrow or Herbet, and he's 23 and still on the rise, and he's surrounded by a very good OC & HC as well as improved OL and weapons. NE's schedule has been crazy favorable, but Maye's talent is undeniable and he's in a near perfect situation for success. 

[Alphadawg7]

I will say this - the first loss was our fault, they didn't out play us, we shot ourselves in the foot.  Allen left a lot of offense on the field, Brady didn't call a good game, and execution was just not there.  Had we played to what this offense is capable of, we win that game by multiple scores.  And after KC, my expectation was to win the next one by multiple scores.

 

But now, NE feels like they are gaining momentum and confidence and Buffalo is Jeckyl and Hyde this year.  One thing for sure is Maye is playing at a very high level and they are well coached.  I still think they are light on talent so they are still a bit overrated, but that is a team that reminds me of the Lions that were coming up under Dan Campbell to where they were on the doorstep of being a legit SB contender.  If NE drafts well this year and makes some good moves in FA, we are going to be in a real battle for the foreseeable future with them for the division.

 

Meanwhile, too many times our team has looked like a rudderless ship out there on both sides of the ball.  The defense has been better with McD taking over the play calling, even though it had some gaffs late against Miami, it more than did enough to win that game through most of the game despite all the pressure put on them by a putrid showing by Allen and the offense.  

 

My biggest concern is how Allens pocket presence, vision, decision making, and footwork have all been key issues in our losses.  I think a lot of that has to do with Brady, Allen doesn't seem comfortable when the game plan is not working or executing.  It almost feels like there are 2 sides of Josh tugging at itself when the offense is sputtering.  Like a part of him that wants to stay on script and another that is trying to go into superman mode, and the battle is affecting his comfort.  Just a thought, but it feels that way at times this season.  

 

Allen is obviously elite, so I have confidence he will get right.  But my bigger concern is Brady, can he make the adjustments to figure this out and help Allen reset a bit and get back to being comfortable and confident back there. 

[Billsfanatic8989]

53 minutes ago, 50yrpatsfan said:

Watch him and you'll realize he's already as good as Burrow or Herbet, and he's 23 and still on the rise, and he's surrounded by a very good OC & HC as well as improved OL and weapons. NE's schedule has been crazy favorable, but Maye's talent is undeniable and he's in a near perfect situation for success. 

Good as Burrow? 

 

Going way too far

[BuffaloBillyG]

I... they're doing WHAT in New England these days?!?!

[Billsfanatic8989]

Would be pretty embarrassing for the Bills IF the Patriots beat KC in the postseason on the way to a SB win. They would have accomplished something in one year that the Bills could not in six. 

 

I would be irate as a fan and want everyone out if that happened. And I'm already close to wanting everyone (McBeane, Babich, Brady) out. 

Edited Wednesday at 06:49 PM by Billsfanatic8989

[Psautcsk]

4 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I... they're doing WHAT in New England these days?!?!

I am not looking forward to the upcoming game in Foxboro. Right now I do not see how it ends well for us.

[Success]

1 minute ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Would be pretty embarrassing for the Bills IF the Patriots beat KC in the postseason on the way to a SB win. They would have accomplished something in one year that the Bills could not in six. 

 

I mean, that would be a "football? What's that?  I'll spend my remaining Sundays learning to play the piano" kind of moment for me.

 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

They're far better than i thought they would be record-wise, so i should eat some crow for that.  Having a veteran head coach definitely has helped them win more of these close games as the season has worn on - 5-2 in 1 score games.  Only the 1 primetime game so far, the 4th place schedule gets them a few advantageous matchups (NYG vs. PHI for buffalo, LVR vs. KC for buffalo, Tenn vs. Hou for buffalo). 

[P Riv]

I heard a stat that they only have something like 21 players from last years roster, and that all those replacements are upgrades.  Bear in mind that last year's coaching has more to do with being 4-13 than the player talent, look at all the one score losses from last year, put that together with new great coaching and scheme, the easy schedule and it all adds up.  Looking at us and them by position, by coaching staff, etc. and the only positions we can hang our hat on is QB and OT.  It's not like they don't have mismatches in their favor either.  I think they're here to stay, kind of like the division was in the mid to late 1990's.  Maye is very good, and he's showing improvement, learning from mistakes like a 2nd year player and much like Allen did.  

That said, I expect the Bills to go into Foxboro and stake their claim to the division.  Looking at their 2025 draft class, their number of 2026 picks, their huge cap space, we might be looking up at them next season.  Many complain about the Bills this season, but seeing what's on the horizon I'm going to enjoy the rest of 2025.  

Edited 8 hours ago by P Riv

[MrEpsYtown]

On 11/12/2025 at 1:43 PM, BuffaloBillyG said:

I... they're doing WHAT in New England these days?!?!

This why Kraft hired Vrabel?