Brandon Beane on WGR

[BuffaloBillyG]

9 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

If Beane put all his chips in the Waddle basket and didnt have his assistant GMs working on a back up plan then he doesnt get the benefit of the doubt from me.  He's been in the NFL for nearly 30 years, he has to know that a deal isnt done until the paper work is signed and into the league, on time.  He's literally seen this while he has been the GM here, twice.   Antonio Brown and JD McKissic were both supposed to be Bills.

 

I like Beane.  I think he's done a good job here, especially early on.   But his excuses for not doing a better job are starting to wear on me. 

 

On the Bengals having Jamarr Chase- "I dont want to suck bad enough to have to get Ja'Marr Chase"

On failing to make a trade at the deadline- "Unfortunately it takes two to tango"- "it's not fantasy football"

On WGR about lack of WRs- "bitching about wide receiver is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard."

 

Its always on someone else.   Saying he went home as mad as every other fan just shows his mindset.  Beane thinks this is happening to him rather than being so frickin undeniable that he gets the job done.   He makes a lot of money to do his job.  Stop blaming everyone else.  Stop making excuses and get things done. 

 

 

I don't disagree with you here. There should have been some kind of pivot. Some kind of back up plan. And there may have well been. 

 

Maybe Shaheed was a pivot plan, but the Saints closed the deal with the Seahawks before ours fell through. Maybe he had a pivot plan to another team for a player we haven't even thought about. But teams talk. Once other teams found out the deal with Miami fell through and it was closing in on deadline time....they upped their asks to try and take advantage. We don't know what we don't know.

[Billz4ever]

4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

 

If Beane put all his chips in the Waddle basket and didnt have his assistant GMs working on a back up plan then he doesnt get the benefit of the doubt from me.  He's been in the NFL for nearly 30 years, he has to know that a deal isnt done until the paper work is signed and into the league, on time.  He's literally seen this while he has been the GM here, twice.   Antonio Brown and JD McKissic were both supposed to be Bills.

 

I like Beane.  I think he's done a good job here, especially early on.   But his excuses for not doing a better job are starting to wear on me. 

 

On the Bengals having Jamarr Chase- "I dont want to suck bad enough to have to get Ja'Marr Chase"

On failing to make a trade at the deadline- "Unfortunately it takes two to tango"- "it's not fantasy football"

On WGR about lack of WRs- "bitching about wide receiver is one of the dumbest arguments I've heard."

 

Its always on someone else.   Saying he went home as mad as every other fan just shows his mindset.  Beane thinks this is happening to him rather than being so frickin undeniable that he gets the job done.   He makes a lot of money to do his job.  Stop blaming everyone else.  Stop making excuses and get things done. 

 

 

 

Instead of going on the radio show to scold guys for daring to have concerns about the WR room, he should've been telling himself, "Gee, all these people who are sweating the talent level in our WR room...maybe they have a point".

 

It's actually hard for me to believe an NFL GM can't look at these WRs and be able to recognize there isn't a single one on this team a DC is looking at and even raising an eyebrow over.  Say what you want about Diggs, but DCs were always having to worry about where he was lining up and specifically schemed to take him away or make it harder to get the ball to him.

 

Now, it's literally the opposite. DC's are DARING our WRs to beat them and will sell out to stopping Cook because they know our WRs just can't do it.  Beane then went into panic mode and was ready to start tossing out first round picks midseason because he knows he screwed up (DK Metcalf was traded for a 2nd rounder in the offseason, Beane).  Another lesson to be learned there. 

[Goin Breakdown]

1 hour ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I have my own theory on what happened based on what we have been told and the timeline of certain events. Goes a little like this.

 

I firmly think that Beane had a deal in place with Miami's former GM, Chris Grier with the terms that we saw. I think once Grier went to Ross to inform him of the trade that Ross disagreed and this along with the tension of the season they have had, led them to "mutually part ways". 

 

After the firing Beane called back and kind of got the run around after being told it's a done deal. I think Miami strung things out long enough that Buffalo didn't have a great chance to pivot to someone else with enough time to make a deal that made sense without making a severe overpay. 

 

Like I said, I see Beane moving on Waddle as an admission of his mistake. I'm HOPING that is is an indication that he will be very active either getting a top WR, or moving up the board to draft one. With the schedule we still have to play and how we looked, we could be starting in the 18-25 pick range. A move up the board from that point wouldn't shock me 

This is actually well thought and said. Very interesting to consider. 

[Walking Tall]

I have to believe that if Chris Grier went to his owner with the possibility of a Waddle trade to Buffalo, and that was the reason Grier and the Dolphins parted ways, Beane would have known about that immediately. 

Edited 3 hours ago by Walking Tall

[Dick_Cheney]

1 minute ago, Walking Tall said:

I have to believe that is Chris Grier went to his owner with the possibility of a Waddle trade to Buffalo, and that was the reason Grier and the Dolphins parted ways, beane would have known about that immediately. 

 

Ehhhhhh I think it's far more likely and realistic that Beane refused to give the 2026 1st and was only offering the 2027 1st and they said no thanks. 

[Billsatlastin2018]

Soooo, you look like a complete tool from a Pre Season interview about WRs? So what! But, this is no longer Pre Season

 

It’s MID NOVEMBER!

 

And if you haven’t before the trade deadline, reevaluated your previous position and understand there are obvious multiple deficiencies in the “Nobody separates- Nobody eats” group of 3rd stringers, then you no longer deserve to be a highly paid GM.

 

And if the ‘ 2027 First Rounder, but not 2026 First Rounder’ take is true, then you should have been frog marched out of the building!

 

YOU believe that YOU are going to find a Top 10 WR for the say #27 pick, instead of grabbing one in a trade, is beyond… beyond inexcusable!

 

ONLY a complete buffoon believes that.

[blitzboy54]

2 hours ago, IsolateThis said:

There's nothing wrong... with being wrong.  It's the refusal to admit mistakes were made, the doubling-down, and the smugness of it all for me.... 

 

This is my primary beef with 13 seconds (besides it happening in the first place). There were a lot of platitudes but no real accountability. McD basically said I’m not going to talk about it and let everyone assume it was the special teams coordinator.  
 

if Isiah McKenzie and Dunne are to be believed he actively participated in screwing that up. 

[BillsPride12]

48 minutes ago, blitzboy54 said:

 

This is my primary beef with 13 seconds (besides it happening in the first place). There were a lot of platitudes but no real accountability. McD basically said I’m not going to talk about it and let everyone assume it was the special teams coordinator.  
 

if Isiah McKenzie and Dunne are to be believed he actively participated in screwing that up. 

Lack of accountability has really become a big issue with the McBeane program. The comments Beane made about not wanting to suck bad enough to draft an elite WR and the rant he went on with Jeremy p***es me off because he gives off this sentiment that being able to land a legit #1 WR is completely out of his hands which is an absolute joke. He just chooses to allocate his resources in other areas, which have been loaded with alot of misses at the same time which just adds more fuel to the fire

[Ned Flanders]

2 hours ago, BuffaloBillyG said:

I think Miami strung things out long enough that Buffalo didn't have a great chance to pivot to someone else with enough time to make a deal that made sense without making a severe overpay. 

I think this was absolutely part of it...BBB didn't want to give up a 2026 pick, so the Fish, being the division rival that they are, decided to play out the clock...BBB didn't get who he wanted and the Fish retained Waddle...and then they go out and win the game.

 

Win/win/win for the Fish, leading to McDaniel trolling Bills fans in Fort Lauderdale. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

35 minutes ago, BillsPride12 said:

Lack of accountability has really become a big issue with the McBeane program. The comments Beane made about not wanting to suck bad enough to draft an elite WR and the rant he went on with Jeremy p***es me off because he gives off this sentiment that being able to land a legit #1 WR is completely out of his hands which is an absolute joke. He just chooses to allocate his resources in other areas, which have been loaded with alot of misses at the same time which just adds more fuel to the fire

I feel if Kim were still in charge, changes would have been made already

[stlbills13]

Beane is building an incredible villain arc 

[Billsfanatic8989]

If Beane refused to give up a 2026 1st (likely a bust anyway) for an established stud like Waddle, he should be fired. Huge IF though.

 

 

27 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

I feel if Kim were still in charge, changes would have been made already

Yep. She seemed more fierce and likely to hold people accountable. 

 

Terry is probably just happy that the new stadium will be sold out and the team is relevant. 

[SoonerBillsFan]

4 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

If Beane refused to give up a 2026 1st (likely a bust anyway) for an established stud like Waddle, he should be fired. Huge IF though.

 

 

Yep. She seemed more fierce and likely to hold people accountable. 

 

Terry is probably just happy that the new stadium will be sold out and the team is relevant. 

100%  so he will not make a change... unless the Golden goose demands it

[BuffaloBillyG]

2 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

If Beane refused to give up a 2026 1st (likely a bust anyway) for an established stud like Waddle, he should be fired. Huge IF though.

 

 

Here where I get confused.

 

I don't follow college ball at all. My Saturday is usually way too packed. So I cannot comment with any personal knowledge here, but I keep seeing to 2027 draft is supposed to be MUCH more talented than the 2026 draft. Of course, we see that a lot of years where the "projection" is two years from now is a better draft than this coming one. 

 

But if that is the case, why would he want to give up his top pick in what's projected to be a stronger year? And why wouldn't the Dolphins want it? I have heard speculation that the Bills first rounder this year was already tied up in the offer for Q. Williams, and that's why the offer to Miami was for 2027, but of course that's all stuff we will never know 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

26 minutes ago, stlbills13 said:

Beane is building an incredible villain arc 

Harvey Dent? 🤔

[Billsfanatic8989]

3 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said:

100%  so he will not make a change... unless the Golden goose demands it

And he probably won't

I understand the future is important. But the present is so much more important to the Bills than any other team. This team needs to start winning SB's now. 

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say no receiver drafted by the Bills in 26/27 will ever be as good as Waddle. 

[2003Contenders]

I wonder if we will ever find out what the real story was behind the Waddle negotiations.

 

I know many of us have been operating under the assumption that the sticking point in the Waddle trade was that Miami wanted a 2026 first rounder and Beane was unwilling to make that trade. I have gone back and forth on this myself. Part of me maintains that Waddle is a proven player and almost certainly better than any player we could have acquired late in the first round this coming April. Also, he would be a shot in the arm to our struggling passing game and would help us NOW. But, it is worth asking -- are we really just a single WR away from the Super Bowl? What we saw on the field against Miami on Sunday would certainly suggest otherwise. And, again, do we really now that Waddle was available to the Bills for a 2026 1st round pick?

 

From what we gave heard from reliable sources, Beane proposed a 2027 #1 and a 2026 #3, which was the best offer on the table. So perhaps Beane felt like any better offer would have been a case of him out-bidding himself. What we don't know is how serious were the negotiations. Did the Dolphins offer a counter? Were they ever seriously interested in working with the Bills -- or trading Waddle at all? Or, as some have speculated here, was there a deal in the works for the reported parameters -- but Miami pulled out at the final hour? 

 

We also heard rumors that Beane inquired about Olave and was told flatly that the Saints were not interested in trading him at all. Likewise, on trade-deadline-day, he was reportedly steadfast about trading for G. Wilson but the Jets were unwilling to make a trade in division. There was also talk of discussions between Beane and the Commanders about trading D. Samuel, which thankfully were never consummated.

 

As many have said, all GMs make bad personnel decisions. It is forgivable to miss, for example, on the Keon pick. The bigger issue is coming across smug like you know so much more than the interviewers/fans and treating them in a disrespectful manner. I remember the same thing happening with T. Donahoe after he fired Gregg Williams -- he had a press conference in which he was irate and spoke condescendingly to the reporters and fans. He never overcame that misstep, and a GM that Bills fans had previously applauded was soon viewed as a villain. He was gone not long after.

 

If I were a PR man for Beane, I would suggest that he go back on the radio on WGR and not necessarily apologize, but in a witty way acknowledge that they were right and that he has tried (and will continue to try) to fortify the WR position. 

 

[SoonerBillsFan]

15 minutes ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

And he probably won't

I understand the future is important. But the present is so much more important to the Bills than any other team. This team needs to start winning SB's now. 

 

I'm going to go out on a limb and say no receiver drafted by the Bills in 26/27 will ever be as good as Waddle. 

You are right

[RobbRiddick]

Jesus, you guys were bitching when Beane was bitching about people bitching in the radio back in April and now you’re bitching about him bitching about everyone bitching about the trade deadline