Ben Johnson?? Ben Johnson?? LOL

[Sierra Foothills]

20 minutes ago, DJB said:

I wish we would have fire McDummy and hired Johnson like I suggested last year 

 

We would be so much better off . 
 

Ben J is a stud play caller 

 

But it's not realistic to think that Pegula would fire McDermott after a 13-4 season.

 

[rajinka]

1 hour ago, Chicken Boo said:

I believe the Bears are the youngest team in the league. 

Well edmunds at age 13 skews the number a bit

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said:

I’m happy for Chicagoans as they’ve been in the desert probably longer than we were for our 17 years.  It was not good timing for us on Ben Johnson.  McD can’t win that much for half a decade and fire him.  It would be disastrous for Pegula if it backfired.  He already blew Wrex and the Sabres perpetually for 15 years. I see his reticence to make drastic hangers to a division winner for 5 years, and if we make it 8 out of 9 years.

In the last 20 years, Bears have been to one SuperBowl, conference championship, and a few playoffs.

 

Our 17 years was way worse.

 

This is the 40th Anniversary of their SBXX win... 

 

Bills desert 🏜 worse.  Way worse.

[RiotAct]

lulz 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

But it's not realistic to think that Pegula would fire McDermott after a 13-4 season.

 

Yeah - Josh (and the offense) really screwed us last year by never turning the ball over.  Johnson was the perfect candidate and we missed out 

it’s not December yet, so McD still has time to get things right, but the odds are looking stacked against him considering the current health of this roster and lack of a passing game

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

I really don’t think Ben Johnson would’ve chosen us over the bears tbh.  Up against the cap with one pass catching weapon that’s often injured, a qb on a huge deal, late in the draft order, etc is a tough starting point 

 

even if he/the new gm decided to go all in on offense I’m not sure how much they could’ve realistically done here

[GoBills808]

18 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I really don’t think Ben Johnson would’ve chosen us over the bears tbh.  Up against the cap with one pass catching weapon that’s often injured, a qb on a huge deal, late in the draft order, etc is a tough starting point 

 

even if he/the new gm decided to go all in on offense I’m not sure how much they could’ve realistically done here

Absolutely crazy take

 

This would be destination #1 if the spot was available. Team's been ready to win the SB for half a decade now

[Sojourner]

1 minute ago, GoBills808 said:

Absolutely crazy take

 

This would be destination #1 if the spot was available. Team's been ready to win the SB for half a decade now

Exactly. You can shed money and bad contracts or players who aren’t performing well. Can’t get a likely HoF QB. 

[QCity]

21 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I really don’t think Ben Johnson would’ve chosen us over the bears tbh.  Up against the cap with one pass catching weapon that’s often injured, a qb on a huge deal, late in the draft order, etc is a tough starting point 

 

even if he/the new gm decided to go all in on offense I’m not sure how much they could’ve realistically done here

 

My man you are next-level deep in the Bargaining stage here. No coach looking for a job is going to turn down the MVP under center.

[GoBills808]

1 minute ago, Sojourner said:

Exactly. You can shed money and bad contracts or players who aren’t performing well. Can’t get a likely HoF QB. 

Yup and an owner willing to spend

[The Frankish Reich]

2 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

In the last 20 years, Bears have been to one SuperBowl, conference championship, and a few playoffs.

 

Our 17 years was way worse.

 

This is the 40th Anniversary of their SBXX win... 

 

Bills desert 🏜 worse.  Way worse.

Yeah, but no one - not even the Browns or the Jets, and certainly not the Bills - suffered through a QB hell like the Bears.

[ExiledInIllinois]

1 minute ago, The Frankish Reich said:

Yeah, but no one - not even the Browns or the Jets, and certainly not the Bills - suffered through a QB hell like the Bears.

Grossman got them to SB and 13-3 record... 

 

Yeah... Chicago in 123 years has never had a 30 TD season passer... NOT even Sid Luckman... And probably NOT Caleb Williams this year.  Still been to 2 SB's & won one.

[GolfandBills]

He knows offense and how to call plays that’s for sure… Unlike the play caller we have 

[Mikie2times]

Between the altered clapping cadence, JV coordinators, and wood shop glasses we would be lost this year if it weren’t for McD and Co. 

[Chautauqua Mafia]

I'm SO glad this thread was revived. As I caught a lot of heat about both Ben Johnson AND Caleb. Will you look at that? I was right. AGAIN.

[machine gun kelly]

7 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

In the last 20 years, Bears have been to one SuperBowl, conference championship, and a few playoffs.

 

Our 17 years was way worse.

 

This is the 40th Anniversary of their SBXX win... 

 

Bills desert 🏜 worse.  Way worse.

Exiled, please don’t misunderstand I have zero against the Bears or their fans.  They’ve barely been relevant since that vaunted 85 season and was happy for my corporate buddies based out of Chicago.  They went to that one SB against the Colts and were no match for Manning.  The Bears also have been mismanaged for so long, for example Lovie Smith wasnt the first coach to get them relevant again and was a double digit team under him and they eventually fire him and fire other coaches ever 2 to maybe 3 years at most.  They keep blowing up their team, pick at the top and choose poorly like Trubisky, Fields, etc.

 

They may have finally paid off with all those high picks.  The problem with the Bills during the drought is often we’d often finish 7-9 to 8-8, and I think maybe one 9-7 year.  We’d never pick outside of a couple of horrible years and when we did, we’d blow it with awful top picks like Mike Williams, and so on.

 

Anyway, my sentiment is just I’m glad to see the Bears show real progress and challenge the Lions, Vikings, and Packers.  Good for them.

[The Jokeman]

7 hours ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I really don’t think Ben Johnson would’ve chosen us over the bears tbh.  Up against the cap with one pass catching weapon that’s often injured, a qb on a huge deal, late in the draft order, etc is a tough starting point 

 

even if he/the new gm decided to go all in on offense I’m not sure how much they could’ve realistically done here

So you think Ben Johnson prefer to Build a Bear than try and get a used and recycle a Buffalo? I agree with you. 

[EmotionallyUnstable]

Could you imagine McDermott ripping his shirt off and leading a team chant like that? 
 

If we win the superbowl, he will likely celebrate with a flavored yogurt. 

[Generic_Bills_Fan]

9 hours ago, QCity said:

 

My man you are next-level deep in the Bargaining stage here. No coach looking for a job is going to turn down the MVP under center.

I wouldn’t call it bargaining at all haha it’s really not me trying to make myself feel better over not getting Ben Johnson. in fact it feels the opposite of good thinking a good coach might choose a different team 😂

 

I just think the bills are kinda in parity hell talent and cap wise and I wouldn’t be stunned to see the top guy in the hiring cycle go to a team like the giants where they can hit the ground running right away and us getting the second best guy.  If every other available opening is a team like the browns then different story but it’s not always like that  

 

I think if the bills really are as far off talent wise as the board thinks at this point, it’s gonna take a few 8 or 9 win years to get back on track 

 

im honestly kinda surprised this take was controversial haha I mean unless we really don’t think the roster is as bad as we’ve been saying every week.i just don’t see any short term answers

 

things get even more complicated if the year mcd gets fired Harbaugh and/or Zac Taylor gets fired too haha 

Edited 1 hour ago by Generic_Bills_Fan

[FireChans]

59 minutes ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said:

I wouldn’t call it bargaining at all haha it’s really not me trying to make myself feel better over not getting Ben Johnson. in fact it feels the opposite of good thinking a good coach might choose a different team 😂

 

I just think the bills are kinda in parity hell talent and cap wise and I wouldn’t be stunned to see the top guy in the hiring cycle go to a team like the giants where they can hit the ground running right away and us getting the second best guy.  If every other available opening is a team like the browns then different story but it’s not always like that  

 

I think if the bills really are as far off talent wise as the board thinks at this point, it’s gonna take a few 8 or 9 win years to get back on track 

 

im honestly kinda surprised this take was controversial haha I mean unless we really don’t think the roster is as bad as we’ve been saying every week.i just don’t see any short term answers

 

things get even more complicated if the year mcd gets fired Harbaugh and/or Zac Taylor gets fired too haha 

Most head coaches fail because their QB sucks.

 

having a good QB is 90% of the battle. 
 

having a great QB is nearly 100% of the battle.

 

The Bengals and/or Ravens and/or will have their pick of the litter when it comes to coaching candidates. 
 

The rest of the team is irrelevant at that point. Ben Johnson if he came to Buffalo would’ve been an effective guarantee the Bills make the playoffs and thus, an effective guarantee he is successful. 
 

 

Also @BringBackFergy’s Ben Johnson crash out because Josh Allen beat Jared Goff in November is going to go down into TBD lore forever.

Edited 37 minutes ago by FireChans