BeastMaster Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 2 hours ago, thenorthremembers said: I am not sure what people dont get about HE DIDNT WANT TO BE HERE. Maybe it was because he saw that Joe Bradys offense wasn't going to be very friendly to him and thought he was better utilized elsewhere Looks as if he was right Quote
thenorthremembers Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, BeastMaster said: Maybe it was because he saw that Joe Bradys offense wasn't going to be very friendly to him and thought he was better utilized elsewhere Looks as if he was right There were issues with Diggs before Brady even became OC. Cant believe people are going to bat for this turd. 2 2 Quote
BeastMaster Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Just now, thenorthremembers said: There were issues with Diggs before Brady even became OC. Cant believe people are going to bat for this turd. Turd or not, there still may have been some legitimate gripes...as evidenced by his current success and our lack there of I think he's a headcase, too. This doesn't mean he's not right about certain things he notices. He's a smart player and has a competitive fire that burns hot. It'll be fascinating to see what the Pats are going to do with him after the season because he will want that last big deal and with that comes possible problems Quote
milfandcookies Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago He looks great and should still be here. Letting a star like Diggs go, and end up on your biggest division rival is a fireable offense in my book 1 2 Quote
Starr Almighty Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, milfandcookies said: He looks great and should still be here. Letting a star like Diggs go, and end up on your biggest division rival is a fireable offense in my book Oh stop we got Keon. We don't even miss Diggs Quote
Augie Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, milfandcookies said: He looks great and should still be here. Letting a star like Diggs go, and end up on your biggest division rival is a fireable offense in my book I don’t know if you were paying attention or not, but I’m here to say I won’t be buying your book. I think you just want to fire someone. Just now, Starr Almighty said: Oh stop we got Keon. We don't even miss Diggs He didn’t want to be here, and he was playing Diva until he got out. We need to replace his production, not his unacceptable attitude. 1 Quote
Starr Almighty Posted 53 minutes ago Posted 53 minutes ago 8 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t know if you were paying attention or not, but I’m here to say I won’t be buying your book. I think you just want to fire someone. He didn’t want to be here, and he was playing Diva until he got out. We need to replace his production, not his unacceptable attitude. Unfortunately a good WR usually comes the Diva attitude 🤷🏻♂️ Quote
milfandcookies Posted 48 minutes ago Posted 48 minutes ago 14 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t know if you were paying attention or not, but I’m here to say I won’t be buying your book. I think you just want to fire someone. He didn’t want to be here, and he was playing Diva until he got out. We need to replace his production, not his unacceptable attitude. Now we just have to finish in 2nd place to him Quote
Augie Posted 45 minutes ago Posted 45 minutes ago 7 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: Unfortunately a good WR usually comes the Diva attitude 🤷🏻♂️ Here’s the funny thing…..I don’t care. He was well over the line and I’d cut bait too. Quote
Mikie2times Posted 43 minutes ago Posted 43 minutes ago (edited) 7 hours ago, The Jokeman said: and fans continue to bash the WR situation but we still have had an above average offense despite that. I get why Beane got frustrated with the call in radio hosts that do nothing more than criticize the WR room yet don't look at the big picture. Last season we broke records when it came to points per game both from a team standpoint and NFL standpoint yet all people wanted to do is lament that our WR sucked because we didn't have some alpha dog that put up ungodly stats. He also pointed out that many of the radio guys bashed Beane for drafting Allen instead of Rosen which in retrospect was the right call. The one thing I will say is in all the years he's been here the team has never bottomed out or looked like it couldn't win a game or two despite all the injuries we've had. Is it due to strong roster building aka not having to rely on super stars to pace you? Look no further than to the Jets who's passing offense is in shambles in part because Garret Wilson is hurt and they have nobody behind him that can step up and replace him. Yes, our offense been questionable since the Palmer injury but the plays have been available but for whatever reason Josh not been able to make them. Perspective is sustained performance in the postseason, in high leverage situations, and being multiple enough on offense to win different ways. Who cares if we have an elite offense under situations when we can play ahead or control the ball or it is elite in the aggregate but fails when faced with less than ideal circumstances. All of these things will inevitably occur in the postseason. It goes back to building teams to win regular season games offensively and not postseason games. The Jets don't even have a starting caliber NFL QB. I'm not sure where the Jets fit in any conversation offensively, but they don't fit where you're trying to put them. Edited 42 minutes ago by Mikie2times 1 Quote
Augie Posted 40 minutes ago Posted 40 minutes ago 3 minutes ago, milfandcookies said: Now we just have to finish in 2nd place to him I’m sorry you’ve given up already, but you be you. I’m pretty sure the season is still ongoing. Time will tell. I don’t tolerate Divas and whiners very well. He made sure there was no way to keep him, just like his exit from the Vikings. I’m happier without him and his BS, and I don’t care what anyone else thinks of that. Period. Quote
milfandcookies Posted 38 minutes ago Posted 38 minutes ago 1 minute ago, Augie said: I’m sorry you’ve given up already, but you be you. I’m pretty sure the season is still ongoing. Time will tell. I don’t tolerate Divas and whiners very well. He made sure there was no way to keep him, just like his exit from the Vikings. I’m happier without him and his BS, and I don’t care what anyone else thinks of that. Period. oh okay Quote
mjt328 Posted 24 minutes ago Posted 24 minutes ago (edited) 2 hours ago, BeastMaster said: Turd or not, there still may have been some legitimate gripes...as evidenced by his current success and our lack there of I think he's a headcase, too. This doesn't mean he's not right about certain things he notices. He's a smart player and has a competitive fire that burns hot. It'll be fascinating to see what the Pats are going to do with him after the season because he will want that last big deal and with that comes possible problems I think Joe Brady's offense (along with another divisional round loss) were the final straws for Stefon Diggs. Yes, his antics were getting worse each season. But that seemed to be the point when he was officially done as a Buffalo Bill. After watching Brady's system for the last 2 years, I'm convinced that he mostly wants to use the team's #1 WR as a decoy. The main purpose is to draw away coverage and clear space for the safer underneath stuff. When Brady took over as OC in 2023, Diggs production (targets, catches, yards, etc.) immediately went down... and Khalil Shakir's production immediately went up. The assumption was that maybe Diggs was secretly injured, on the downside of his career or even dogging it. But this year in New England is proving that wasn't the case at all. Diggs is still a superstar in this league. So what happened the final two months of that season? Without Diggs, the Bills passing offense started slow in 2024. Fans seem to forget this, because the offense finished at the top of the NFL. But in reality, the pass game was meh in Weeks 1-2 and then fell apart in Weeks 4-5 (where everybody was complaining our outside WRs couldn't get open). So Beane pulled off the trade for Amari Cooper. The passing game turned around almost immediately after acquiring Cooper, even though his stats were almost non-existent. That's because defenses had to respect his route-running ability, making him an effective decoy for Brady's short attack. In the offseason, Cooper was considered an after-thought. After all the guy only had 20 catches and under 300 yards for the Bills. Many even believed that Josh Palmer (a career #3 for the Chargers) was going to be an upgrade. But nobody realized Cooper was really the lynchpin in our passing attack. Because he was the only outside WR on our roster that teams respected. "Everybody Eats" is a good idea in principle. But it's very difficult to execute properly. It's good to spread the ball around to many different options. It's good that a QB isn't pressured to force-feed his top WR. It's good that defenses can't focus on stopping a single weapon. It's good not to have a distraction-causing diva in the locker room. But there are times when you need that top WR who can win 1-on-1 and get open. If you don't have that guy, defenses know they can dedicate less resources towards stopping the outside guys. That spirals down to the rest of the offense. And you will also have a really tough time keeping a #1 WR happy when your plan is making him a decoy. Edited 22 minutes ago by mjt328 1 1 Quote
Sojourner Posted 17 minutes ago Posted 17 minutes ago (edited) 53 minutes ago, milfandcookies said: He looks great and should still be here. Letting a star like Diggs go, and end up on your biggest division rival is a fireable offense in my book Well we netted TJ Sanders so we’ll see what happens there. I was a bit indifferent with Diggs being shipped off. It had obviously become a team problem and the dude rarely showed up in the playoffs. Once or twice? Sure. But your #1 guy who dominated the regular season has to make some of the catches he was missing. Can’t fire someone on that basis. Now if he ends up producing these playoffs for New England??? Yeah, it’ll be a bummer. Edited 17 minutes ago by Sojourner Quote
Luka Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago Diggs is a pile of human garbage. He dropped one of the biggest passes in Bills history. Good riddance. It's not that Diggs left, it's that we adopted this stupid everybody eats mantra as an excuse to not sign, trade for or draft a quality receiver. Quote
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