Random talking head says something about the Bills

[poo]

I have seen this thread for years. I opened it and saw 153 pages. I thought to myself, why does it still exist? Is there really only one thread for all of these random, unrelated comments? Surely, some must be good analysis erroneously placed here. Then I saw Nick Wright's long-hair-covering-a -bald-spot and I knew that I was mistaken. 153 pages of clickbait. 153 pages of fellas who don't want to work beyond running their mouths and getting their makeup on before taping. Good on this board for putting these fools where they belong. Keep saving me from this crap. Appreciate it.

Edited March 18 by poo

[US Egg]

 Colin really going out on a ledge there. 

[BillsFan130]

Caleb Williams over guys like Joe burrow, Lamar, Stafford etc is laughable.

 

He is placing way too much on durability by the looks of it

[H2o]

Just now, BillsFan130 said:

Caleb Williams over guys like Joe burrow, Lamar, Stafford etc is laughable.

 

He is placing way too much on durability by the looks of it

Agreed. A guy who took a step back in completion % with Ben Johnson calling plays for him, not even completing 60% of his passes, sitting at 3 behind Allen and Mahomes, while ahead of Stafford, Burrow, and Jackson is absolutely laughable. 

[MJS]

Why is Mahomes even 2nd? Stafford has been better than him as well. There's a good case for a handful of guys to be ahead of him.

[James Can Cook]

Well duh.

[Nephilim17]

1 hour ago, US Egg said:

 Colin really going out on a ledge there. 

There's actually a fair bit of fan criticism from other fan bases towards Josh, so it is a bit of a ledge. Not for us, but cities like KC, Baltimore, and fans of those QBs. It's box-score/headline scouting (Allen commits 4 turnovers in playoff game!) and it's unfair but it's there nonetheless.

Good for Colin for not buying into the nonsense.

[US Egg]

13 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

Good for Colin for not buying into the nonsense.

Thank goodness we have him as the voice of reason.

[Kirby Jackson]

41 minutes ago, Nephilim17 said:

There's actually a fair bit of fan criticism from other fan bases towards Josh, so it is a bit of a ledge. Not for us, but cities like KC, Baltimore, and fans of those QBs. It's box-score/headline scouting (Allen commits 4 turnovers in playoff game!) and it's unfair but it's there nonetheless.

Good for Colin for not buying into the nonsense.

You won’t find anyone that has him outside of the top 4 and basically no one that has him outside of the top 3. Lots and lots of people have him at 1. I bet if we aggregated all of the “experts” that have ranked QBs, Josh would have the most votes currently at #1. If he put Caleb Williams at 1, that would have been on a ledge. 

[Sierra Foothills]

4 hours ago, BillsFan130 said:

Caleb Williams over guys like Joe burrow, Lamar, Stafford etc is laughable.

 

He is placing way too much on durability by the looks of it

 

And Justin Herbert at number 4???

 

Hard to be credible with an opinion like that.

 

[MiltonWaddams]

1 minute ago, Sierra Foothills said:

 

And Justin Herbert at number 4???

 

Hard to be credible with an opinion like that.

 

But, but….he really likes our guy!!!

[Buffalo716]

4 hours ago, H2o said:

Agreed. A guy who took a step back in completion % with Ben Johnson calling plays for him, not even completing 60% of his passes, sitting at 3 behind Allen and Mahomes, while ahead of Stafford, Burrow, and Jackson is absolutely laughable. 

He's been in Chicago for 2 years and broke every single season passing record in Chicago basically 

 

It is a hard stadium to be your home stadium and put up Gaudy stats 

 

He has a way way way brighter future than Drake May.. not even close he's going to be the top five quarterback that they thought Drake May would be in his career

 

He makes throws and plays that only Josh Allen can do.. and he already takes care of the ball

 

Is he top five right now? No.. does he have the most potential and the highest floor out of all the other guys vying to be in the top five... Yes

 

Allen mahomes Stafford Lamar borrow are entrenched... He has the best chance of getting into that

Edited Saturday at 09:22 PM by Buffalo716

[PoundingDog]

I think it is pretty much the consensus right now that Allen is the standard. Winning MVP 2024 after losing Diggs is big for him. Then the other guys, Mahomes, Jackson, and Burrow all kind of stumbled with performance and injuries. I have heard more than once in other markets where Sports shows argued with "there is no Josh Allen walking onto the team ..."

 

I do believe if Allen can maintain his playing level - I'm not asking for perfection, even with the mistakes he made in Denver this January, a superbowl appearance is getting closer and closer.

[NewEra]

3 hours ago, MJS said:

Why is Mahomes even 2nd? Stafford has been better than him as well. There's a good case for a handful of guys to be ahead of him.

Easy answer.  Accomplishments. 
Definitely not based on his recent play.

[BigDingus]

This list is terrible.

 

First off, Allen's played better than Mahomes the last THREE years. Mahomes hasn't even been a top 5 QB in most categories in that time.

 

But if we're weighing past accomplishments so highly, Caleb should barely be top 10, let alone top 3. Lamar, Burrow, Stafford, etc. should all be higher. Even Goff's put up better numbers & had more team success than Caleb. 

 

If we're going off recent history, Mahomes shouldn't be number 2, and Stafford should be above pretty much everyone. If Allen threw 46 TDs / 8 INTs / 109 rating + MVP, we'd be livid seeing him at number 5... below Caleb & Herbert 😂

 

His list is just too inconsistent with what seems to matter. 

[90sBills]

3 minutes ago, BigDingus said:

This list is terrible.

 

His list is just too inconsistent with what seems to matter. 

Mahomes is one season removed from taking his team to 3 consecutive Super Bowls. Isn’t that what matters the most for a qb?

[Buffalo716]

3 minutes ago, 90sBills said:

Mahomes is one season removed from taking his team to 3 consecutive Super Bowls. Isn’t that what matters the most for a qb?

Well winning a Super bowl is a team stat 

 

He is very good but he has been regressing.. by the eye test.. metrics.. etc 

 

Patrick mahomes isn't matching his career if he was drafted by the Buffalo Bills.. his team had a five six year head start on building opposed to Buffalo

 

Which is why he was able to come out hot out the gate after sitting behind a quarterback who made a pro bowl... He was brought into a much much better situation

Edited Saturday at 09:48 PM by Buffalo716

[Augie]

One day Josh will not be the best player in the NFL, but today he is until things change. And things will change. That’s how it works. 

[90sBills]

1 minute ago, Buffalo716 said:

Well winning a Super bowl is a team stat 

 

He is very good but he has been regressing.. by the eye test.. metrics.. etc 

 

Patrick mahomes isn't matching his career if he was drafted by the Buffalo Bills.. his team had a five six year head start on building opposed to Buffalo

 

Which is why he was able to come out hot out the gate after sitting behind a quarterback who made a pro bowl... He was brought into a much much better situation

It’s a team stat that is influenced the most by the quarterback position. Teams go as far as their quarterback can take them. Look at us. We got perennially good as soon as Allen came on the scene. It isn’t a coincidence. Just like it wasn’t a coincidence that KC started winning Super Bowls when Mahomes came along. 
 

Your speculation of whether Mahomes could’ve done the same elsewhere is irrelevant. Reality is he has done it there.

[Buffalo716]

1 minute ago, 90sBills said:

It’s a team stat that is influenced the most by the quarterback position. Teams go as far as their quarterback can take them. Look at us. We got perennially good as soon as Allen came on the scene. It isn’t a coincidence. Just like it wasn’t a coincidence that KC started winning Super Bowls when Mahomes came along. 
 

Your speculation of whether Mahomes could’ve done the same elsewhere is irrelevant. Reality is he has done it there.

 

Dan Marino is a better quarterback than Patrick mahomes 

 

One has three or four Super bowls one has zero .. I love Jim Kelly the bills probably win a Super bowl or two with Dan Marino

 

Dan Marino Patrick mahomes are not even close when it comes to pure quarterbacking and the teams they were surrounded by 

 

Dan Marino zero Super bowls much better than Patrick mahomes

 

Drew Brees missed the playoffs five or six times.. Joe Montana missed the playoffs multiple times.. Big Ben missed the playoffs multiple times 

 

Hall of Fame quarterbacks without good talent around them certainly can miss the playoffs.. Drew Brees missed five or six times.. and he's considered top 10 or 15

Edited Saturday at 09:57 PM by Buffalo716