SectionC3 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 39 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Can you guys keep this to Hopkins news please? I’ll get it back on track. Hopkins may have misread the market. It’s softer than we thought. There’s no DHop world tour right now. He probably has one or two decent offers, but my guess is nothing like he thought. The leak about the Bills suggests they’re the clubhouse leader and they want Hopkins to make a decision so that their offer isn’t subject to a lengthy shopping process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, PonyBoy said: Did you fold it in half? 😃 Hung a 25 lb weight on it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 minute ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Harty is an upgrade to Lil dirty. At least thats what I keep reading on this board. And Shorter should push Davis for snaps and playing time. Shorter did nothing in college, to think he’s going to make some massive leap this year and actually see the field on O is wishful thinking at best. I like the physical potential, but he better bring it on ST’s to even sniff the roster. Harty has proven nothing yet, I don’t have huge expectations, I’m hopeful he’s going to be something. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SectionC3 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Harty is an upgrade to Lil dirty. At least thats what I keep reading on this board. And Shorter should push Davis for snaps and playing time. Yes to 1. No to 2. Unless shorter is in to play the kumerow role from years gone by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 9 minutes ago, SUNY_amherst said: dude, give it up. I dont even know what you are talking about i missed you meaty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, SUNY_amherst said: I dont see an upgraded roster. The swap from Singletary to the plodding NE back is a downgrade. The defensive leader going to Chicago and replacing him with a rookie or expanding the role of AJ Klein is a big downgrade. oh they got a new TE2? Usually takes those guys a year or two to develop this is intentionally obtuse kincaid is a TE by name only, Beane literally said it himself on Embedded you're hand wringing about Singletary to Harris, and didnt want to bring up OL? lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: No, this is again inaccurate. He has a 2 year contract for one. 2nd, teams didn’t just magically have cap space at the start of the offseason, in fact in many cases, especially the ones most interested in him, did not and were actually over the cap. Buffalo for example early in the off-season had to make moves and restructure deals just to get under the cap, let alone to sign other inexpensive free agents and our rookie class. Other teams did the same, even cut or let go of good players to get under. Sorry, that is not at all what I said. It is the narrative you’re trying create with the inaccurate statements above, but it’s not at all what I am saying nor is it an accurate reflection of the majority of the views on him across the NFL. Just because teams can’t afford his contract does not mean they view him as a low end WR1. That’s just a conclusion you want to get to, but that’s not reflective of how the business of the NFL is conducted. First, given his age and cost, he only makes sense for contending teams, that immediately crosses a majority of teams off as a landing spot. Of those teams, they need to have the cap space for the next 2 years (based on trading for his contract) to take him on and also have the need for him. Teams like Cincy and Miami for example are pretty loaded at top end WRs, and there isn’t a “need” to squeeze him in. Then you have teams who have huge QB contracts and they still need to keep guys on both sides of the ball. Teams have to weigh what taking on his contract will do towards retaining other players next year too or impacting what other holes they can fill this year. I could keep going with many reasons this cut and dry conclusion you are trying to get to him just isn’t reflective of reality, circumstances, and context of all that is in play when considering a trade for him or signing him to a multi year contract, but I think my point is clear enough as is. It’s totally cool to not be in favor of signing him, I am just saying I think you’re making some leaps in logic on how others view him to get to a conclusion that fits your personal opinion that he doesn’t have much left in the tank. You’re saying it without thinking you’re saying it. If teams don’t want to pay him as a WR1 then what do you think teams think he is? Baltimore could’ve easily fit Hopkins back at the start of the new year and then restructured his contract. It’s obvious teams don’t view him as a WR1 anymore. He’ll get WR2 money, which is why he was cut not traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BillsShredder83 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, SectionC3 said: I’ll get it back on track. Hopkins may have misread the market. It’s softer than we thought. There’s no DHop world tour right now. He probably has one or two decent offers, but my guess is nothing like he thought. The leak about the Bills suggests they’re the clubhouse leader and they want Hopkins to make a decision so that their offer isn’t subject to a lengthy shopping process. whats the leak? i missed it? uhghhhhhhhh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, 17islongenough said: That settles it, he's going to the pats. Everyone knows they ignore all the ***** they know is wrong. Edited May 31, 2023 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, The Wiz said: That settles it, he's going to the pats. My guess is the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted May 31, 2023 Author Share Posted May 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Can you guys keep this to Hopkins news please? The ignore feature is one of the most underrated features on here. More people should give it a try. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 Just now, Gregg said: My guess is the Browns. Was meant as a joke anyways. I do think it's going to be brown, patriots or bears though. No real reasoning why, just a feeling. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) “In four games with Kyler Murray last season, Hopkins had 30 receptions, 385 yards, 3 TDs. That's a 17 game pace of... 128 receptions, 1636 yards, 13 TDs” - Joe D from WGR Edited May 31, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 29 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: And Shorter should push Davis for snaps and playing time. Wait, are we talking Gabe? Gabe Davis? Shorter is going to be pushing our #2 for PT?! I love the optimism but the only thing our rookie 5th rounder will be pushing for is surviving cutdown day as #6 WR on the depth chart. imho 5 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 5 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: “In four games with Kyler Murray last season, Hopkins had 30 receptions, 385 yards, 3 TDs. That's a 17 game pace of... 128 receptions, 1636 yards, 13 TDs” - Joe D from WGR BUT... that was Kyler Murray throwing to him, not Josh Allen. Wait.. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 If DH goes to the Pats he’s either an idiot or a genius 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 (edited) Hopkins just followed James Cook on IG today could be nothing, could be something Edited May 31, 2023 by Warriorspikes51 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 30 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: You’re saying it without thinking you’re saying it. If teams don’t want to pay him as a WR1 then what do you think teams think he is? Baltimore could’ve easily fit Hopkins back at the start of the new year and then restructured his contract. It’s obvious teams don’t view him as a WR1 anymore. He’ll get WR2 money, which is why he was cut not traded. Agree to disagree on this one. All good either way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted May 31, 2023 Share Posted May 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, JaCrispy said: If DH goes to the Pats he’s either an idiot or a genius 😉 ...getting way more guaranteed money than anyone else was willing to offer. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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