3rdand12 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 19 hours ago, aceman_16 said: Well good thing I am not on twitter. I have been a long time board member (before this date just lost my info...I am old) as you have.l been. I have agreed with a majority of what you said over time. However, by saying Buffalo misses on LBers when one was a multiple time pro bowler who got paid a 72 million dollar deal with 50 million guaranteed in free agency and the other considered one of the best we have ever had and an all-pro as "meh no big deal dis team still suckz dudez when it comes to picking linebackers" is an absolute cold take and at this point you're bordering on troll status. respect this too 👍 17 hours ago, In Summary said: Besides Jones, what DT is going to keep these little guys clean? This was my point pre draft Following another fine poster or two here , in regard to drafting a 1 tech to back Jones Was hoping we would even in the late rounds. Even more so seeing the LBs we will be fielding post draft etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 4 hours ago, SCBills said: Cam Lynch compares him to Edmunds. Honestly, looking at his tape a bit … I see it. Obviously doesn’t have the freak size Edmunds has, but he processes, reads and reacts much more instinctually. If he can win the MLB, I’m starting to think this guy might be a stud in our defense. Unlike Edmunds, he plays with bad intentions. Check the bolded Thats all really asked for. go f someone up Dorian 😋 9 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: Every team in the NFL is in nickel more than 50% of the time. Johnson is a top 4 player on this defense I am aware it a passing League. But last season he was asked to do too much. And it showed. I think he is one of the best and loved him since year one ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWeatherMan Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 On 4/29/2023 at 4:47 AM, Reed83HOF said: Top Reasons to Buy In: Size and frame Special teams resume and experience on defense Movement skills and college production Top Reasons For Concern: Ability to take on and deconstruct blocks Contact balance Modest read and react skills Sounds like the same concerns we had with Edmunds…every year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 20 hours ago, boyst said: Follow me for more actual football knowledge. It may help you learn some X's and o's but until then. Xxx 😍 Not at all. I've been posting a very long time. I once got flamed for an entire dissertation on linebacker play and how Milano was more important to this team than Edmunds... And I got flamed by many. This was after Edmunds rookie year. I need to post more so I can actually have some folks understand my knowledge of X's and o's or just not post at all. The Twitter style ***** hot takes posting folks do these days sucks. But, beyond your football knowledge, I think we can all learn something about humility from you. Thank you for that. 😋 . Edited April 30, 2023 by Augie 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, TheWeatherMan said: Sounds like the same concerns we had with Edmunds…every year. Interesting that Marino says he has modest read and react skills, because the ESPN guys raved about those skills for Williams and Overshown on back to back picks. And it wasn’t just them fluffing every player, because those same ESPN guys ripped Simpson and Henley a few picks earlier for being slow to read and react. Edited April 30, 2023 by SCBills 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 10 minutes ago, Augie said: But, beyond your football knowledge, I think we can all learn something about humility from you. Thank you for that. 😋 . ... 😑🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted April 30, 2023 Share Posted April 30, 2023 Not that he'll be great, but a 4.49 40 time! That's crazy fast for a LB. In any case, he's a Bill so I wish him the best and who knows? Maybe he will be great after all. Stranger things have happened. There are a few UDFA's in the HOF after all. We can only hope he'll be the next. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Could be the sleeper of the draft. Pure athlete here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 5 hours ago, SCBills said: Interesting that Marino says he has modest read and react skills, because the ESPN guys raved about those skills for Williams and Overshown on back to back picks. And it wasn’t just them fluffing every player, because those same ESPN guys ripped Simpson and Henley a few picks earlier for being slow to read and react. What is Marino's background as a college talent assessor? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 5 hours ago, TheWeatherMan said: Sounds like the same concerns we had with Edmunds…every year. yes accept he can make it up with his quickness and slightly faster... Edmunds was horrible in coverage.. this guy is not. I will judge though when nfl practices and preseason games hit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Chaos said: What is Marino's background as a college talent assessor? That is a good question, the nfl draft network group as a whole have some odd takes. I keep leaning in a little more towards PFF for my draft takes, i just think they have a better group to breakdown prospects. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nephilim17 Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Considering it's a passing league and our D has surrendered some big games to some upper-echelon tight ends, the following gives me some optimism: "Remains disciplined with coverage assignments, gets depth on pass drops, and easily runs downfield with tight ends." https://www.profootballnetwork.com/dorian-williams-lb-tulane-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/ " He has the athleticism to match up with tight ends and running backs in man coverage. In zone coverage..." https://thegamehaus.com/nfl-draft/dorian-williams-2023-nfl-draft-profile/2023/04/24/ "He can cover tight ends man-to-man and plays well in zone coverage." https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/buffalo_bills_2023_nfl_draft_review/s1_17198_38762510 "Carries tight ends and running backs with solid speed down the field." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10073386-dorian-williams-nfl-draft-2023-scouting-report-for-buffalo-bills-lb 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 Just now, Dan in Owego said: That is a good question, the nfl draft network group as a whole have some odd takes. I keep leaning in a little more towards PFF for my draft takes, i just think they have a better group to breakdown prospects. PFF grades each player in each college game all year. You do not have to love their methodology but it does mean they have a group of people paying attention all season not just during “draft season” 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I watched the USC game today, which was touted as his best game. He was all over the place, but he was still a bit up and down. Really over committed on the rpo stuff, play action and counter stuff. He also made some ridiculous plays. I feel like he was a bit in conflict at times with what he was tasked to do, which looked like it was a lot. Got pushed around a bit, and had a bad missed tackle on a long USC TD but you can see flashes in his game. He destroys the running back on the 1 yard line which led to a safety that absolutely changed the game. He’s a playmaker. There is a lot to like here, but I am not sure he’s going to be ready to step in this year. JMO based on one game film. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 I didn’t realize this, but it’s worth noting Lavante David was the guy we were all clamoring for to replace Edmonds Lavonte David is 61 233 pounds Dorian Williams is 61 228 pounds 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 4 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I didn’t realize this, but it’s worth noting Lavante David was the guy we were all clamoring for to replace Edmonds Lavonte David is 61 233 pounds Dorian Williams is 61 228 pounds Yeah I feel like a lot of fan’s expectations of the what a mike looks like is skewed by having a unicorn like Tremaine. Roquan Smith is 6-1, 232 Fred Warner is 6-3, 230 Demario Davis was 6-2, 235 when drafted…now he weights 248. Eric Kendricks is 6-0, 232 With his length and frame I see zero reason why Williams couldn’t add 10-15 lbs of muscle. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Nephilim17 said: Considering it's a passing league and our D has surrendered some big games to some upper-echelon tight ends, the following gives me some optimism: "Remains disciplined with coverage assignments, gets depth on pass drops, and easily runs downfield with tight ends." https://www.profootballnetwork.com/dorian-williams-lb-tulane-nfl-draft-scouting-report-2023/ " He has the athleticism to match up with tight ends and running backs in man coverage. In zone coverage..." https://thegamehaus.com/nfl-draft/dorian-williams-2023-nfl-draft-profile/2023/04/24/ "He can cover tight ends man-to-man and plays well in zone coverage." https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/amp/buffalo_bills_2023_nfl_draft_review/s1_17198_38762510 "Carries tight ends and running backs with solid speed down the field." https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10073386-dorian-williams-nfl-draft-2023-scouting-report-for-buffalo-bills-lb It's fair to say that much of what the Bills do defensively is done with Kansas City in mind... more so than Cinci I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 This is a miss in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 9 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I didn’t realize this, but it’s worth noting Lavante David was the guy we were all clamoring for to replace Edmonds Lavonte David is 61 233 pounds Dorian Williams is 61 228 pounds 9 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said: Yeah I feel like a lot of fan’s expectations of the what a mike looks like is skewed by having a unicorn like Tremaine. Roquan Smith is 6-1, 232 Fred Warner is 6-3, 230 Demario Davis was 6-2, 235 when drafted…now he weights 248. Eric Kendricks is 6-0, 232 With his length and frame I see zero reason why Williams couldn’t add 10-15 lbs of muscle. Darius (I guess he's going by his miiddle name "Shaquille" now) Leonard is 6'2" and 230#. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted May 1, 2023 Share Posted May 1, 2023 He definitely not small for todays game. He’s not big. His size won’t hold him back It’ll come down to instincts. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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