AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Mister Defense said: Pass. The Bills must focus their resources now on both protecting their star player, Allen, and giving him an offense and coordinator capable of utilizing all of the field. A few months ago I wanted Hopkins, but now I think it would be almost pointless to do so and to once again divert resources from dramatically improving the weakest link on this team, the offensive line. You’re assuming they are interested in this dramatic improvement … from their actions over the past few seasons, it seems they’re more interested in plugging in journeymen and JAGs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo44 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Rubes said: Just trying to see what the balance of opinions are, champ. Agreed - nobody is forcing you to read another DHOP thread. If you’re offended, don’t go on the thread 40 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: why in GODS NAME!!!! did we need another topic on this? 210 pages+ is NOT enough for you to figure this out? boards are going to hell in a hand basket. Then don’t participate on this one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 It’s basically a third rounder…PULL THE TRIGGER!! 💥 🔫 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 I don’t understand how people can have an opinion without knowing the financial side of things. Are we paying what is due on his contract? No thank you. How much can we get his cap number down? How much will the Cardinals pay? What does a restructure look like? Only then can I determine how I feel about it. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t understand how people can have an opinion without knowing the financial side of things. Are we paying what is due on his contract? No thank you. How much can we get his cap number down? How much will the Cardinals pay? What does a restructure look like? Only then can I determine how I feel about it. Just keep replying to this nonsense and maybe we will have 2 active 200 page topics on the same person lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t understand how people can have an opinion without knowing the financial side of things. Are we paying what is due on his contract? No thank you. How much can we get his cap number down? How much will the Cardinals pay? What does a restructure look like? Only then can I determine how I feel about it. Any more fiscal levelheadedness from you, and we'll give you Popeyes Chicken, tell you it's KFC, and then lock you in the bathroom for a week. Now, someone call Beane and say TSW is in. 😁 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 I voted yes, but only if New England doesn’t get a comp pick out of it… 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 20 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t understand how people can have an opinion without knowing the financial side of things. Are we paying what is due on his contract? No thank you. How much can we get his cap number down? How much will the Cardinals pay? What does a restructure look like? Only then can I determine how I feel about it. 1 minute ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Any more fiscal levelheadedness from you, and we'll give you Popeyes Chicken, tell you it's KFC, and then lock you in the bathroom for a week. Now, someone call Beane and say TSW is in. 😁 Agree with Ridgeway... if we want sensible, well-considered responses we'll go to... Chick-fil-A? I'm confused now... What was the question? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 23 minutes ago, Augie said: I don’t understand how people can have an opinion without knowing the financial side of things. Are we paying what is due on his contract? No thank you. How much can we get his cap number down? How much will the Cardinals pay? What does a restructure look like? Only then can I determine how I feel about it. they can make it work if they really want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Sierra Foothills said: Agree with Ridgeway... if we want sensible, well-considered responses we'll go to... Chick-fil-A? I'm confused now... What was the question? I just know that Popeyes Chicken is 'green Kryptonite' to Augie. Deadly. 😵 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: they can make it work if they really want to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Absolutely yes with zero hesitation. People overvalue the draft way too much. Get the guy we know is great right now and try to win the Super Bowl. yep. Beane will probably take a running back anyway in the 2nd round… lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 (edited) Hopkins will be 31 before training camp, has bee recently injured, recently suspended for steroids, and carries a big cap value. If it was just a late 2nd in this weaker draft, fine, but the cap $ would have a ripple effect. For those reasons, I am not interested unless he comes very cheaply (pay cut - not interested in extending a 31 year old WR beyond the 2 years already on his contract). Edited April 23, 2023 by OldTimer1960 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 6 minutes ago, OldTimer1960 said: Hopkins will be 31 before training camp, has bee recently injured, recently suspended for steroids, and carries a big cap value. If it was just a late 2nd in this weaker draft, fine, but the cap $ would have a ripple effect. For those reasons, I am not interested unless he comes very cheaply (pay cut - not interested in extending a 31 year old WR beyond the 2 years already on his contract). The cap hit is close to a deal breaker unless AZ eats a lot contract. I think it is more likely Beane trades up for Addison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: The cap hit is close to a deal breaker unless AZ eats a lot contract. I think it is more likely Beane trades up for Addison. I don’t even think I’d be willing to trade up for Addison. If he is available at 27, then OK, but trading extra assts to get a 170lb WR would not be smart, in my view. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 You assume Arizona will eat most of the money? I doubt it. 24 2 seasons of Hopkins ( for 34 million?) vs what,6 or 7 million over 4 years for a 2nd pick. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 46 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Any more fiscal levelheadedness from you, and we'll give you Popeyes Chicken, tell you it's KFC, and then lock you in the bathroom for a week. Now, someone call Beane and say TSW is in. 😁 Well, better to be locked IN than OUT in that case! 44 minutes ago, Sierra Foothills said: Agree with Ridgeway... if we want sensible, well-considered responses we'll go to... Chick-fil-A? I'm confused now... What was the question? It’s Sunday. We will go hungry. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 Yup. In a heartbeat. Especially the way this team spends 2nd round picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 If they're asking for a 2nd, likely could get it down to a 3rd and maybe throw in a 5th or something. Recall reading a month or 2 back that after some other WR was traded, don't recall who, Cardinals price likely dropped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted April 23, 2023 Share Posted April 23, 2023 5 hours ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Absolutely yes with zero hesitation. People overvalue the draft way too much. Get the guy we know is great right now and try to win the Super Bowl. How will you pay him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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