ESPN latest mock has us getting a RB but not the one you think

[Sammy Watkins' Rib]

2 hours ago, PrimeTime101 said:

so I am confused? your for a day 1 RB or no RB at all?

You have heard of Day 3 right? Rounds 4-7.

[Ethan in Cleveland]

Tannenbaum is another former terrible GM that somehow is an analyst. This idiot drafted Vernon Gholston who is on most short lists for worst draft picks of all time.

He has a 25 year old QB coming off a torn ACL as the 5th pick in the draft - Hendon Hooker. Assuming he can't play year one, that would make him a 27 year old first time player in 2024. 

[BillsFanForever19]

46 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

I don’t think Spotrac has the publicly reported details of his new contract quite right yet. He’s got $2M guaranteed, $1M salary $1M signing bonus split between this year and next.  The salary is NBD if he’s cut provided someone picks him up, provided he has offset language in his contract because it’s less than league minimum for his years (which, we don’t know, he might have negotiated for no offset language)

 

And we just paid him 4 million in cash up front in the restructure. I know someone will say "that's not cap, so who cares?". But teams aren't generally in the business of handing someone 4 million dollars if they have even the slightest intention that they won't be in the plans.

 

The idea of a 1st or 2nd Round RB this season went out the window when they paid Nyheim Hines and Damien Harris.

Edited March 29, 2023 by BillsFanForever19

[Beck Water]

1 hour ago, Mango said:

We have Cook, Harris, and Hines. I’m not exactly sure why we need another RB. 

 

I think it’s simple Media Draft Pundit Math.  McDermott has spoken about needing to improve our run game.

Therefore the Bills must be drafting an RB because that’s how you improve your run game, so we’ll mock one to them.

[gjv]

I would jump ahead of the Chargers and draft Robinson. Watching an offense with Josh Allen surrounded by Diggs, Hopkins, and Robinson would be fun. NFL 

[PrimeTime101]

10 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

They expect more out of Hines than  ST contributions.  They are paying him more than they ever paid Andre Roberts

 

Question: when has one of these media pundits EVER been right about our draft picks?

nope lol

9 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

I don’t think Gibbs is that dude to be honest. His vision is borderline horrible. There will be plenty of guys in the later rds that can be better then him Sean Tucker, Keaton Mitchell, Achane this draft is loaded at the Scat bk position. I believe we need a great back for the future of this team and I realize the benefits of having one but I’ll pass on Gibbs at #27. 

i get it. Thanks  

[NewEra]

He could be a top 3 back in 2 years if he ends up in the right spot.  I think he’s special and would’ve been the best back in last years draft over Walker and hall

[Billz4ever]

37 minutes ago, NewEra said:

He could be a top 3 back in 2 years if he ends up in the right spot.  I think he’s special and would’ve been the best back in last years draft over Walker and hall

Yeah, he's solid.

 

Really been flying under the radar given all the attention Robinson gets at the position.  

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

Due to ESPN staff cutbacks, some adjustments have been made to how mock drafts are selected:

[damj]

We'll this certainly is a stupid pick / analysis 

[OldTimer1960]

14 hours ago, papazoid said:

i'll play along....if the draft fell this way

 

then imo beane would take edge nolan smith, georgia

I don’t know about that.  He seems like a better fit as a 3-4 OLB than a 4-3 DE.  I know he is a great athlete, but has he really played to the level of a first round pass rush specialist?  In 4 seasons at Ga, he totaled 12.5 sacks.  His highest 1 season sack total was 4.5 in 12 games as a junior.  I’m not saying that he can’t be a good pass rusher in the NFL - his physical ability says he should be able to, but I don’t think he has produced dominant pass rush numbers yet.

 

I watch game tape, but I defer to those who know how to evaluate better than I do.

[Sierra Foothills]

12 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

What time do we gather?

 

I don't have a pitchfork... can I go with you guys if I bring a garden spade or a good sturdy rake?

 

 

[without a drought]

Make it stop!

[Beck Water]

12 hours ago, Mango said:

We have Cook, Harris, and Hines. I’m not exactly sure why we need another RB. 

 

Well, we have typically gone into the season with 4 RB + a FB on the roster, but one of the RB has traditionally been Taiwan Jones whose primary role is ST.

And with the addition of Trent Sherfield and Zane Anderson, we may be moving away from Jake Kumerow and Taiwan Jones.

 

It's a good question - I would expect the Bills to draft a guy late and pick up 1-2 UDFA vs. spending a high pick.

 

12 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

OMG, let's hope McBeane isn't paying any attention to this RB bull####.

 

You can bet on it that Beane is paying zero attention to media pundit mock drafts.

 

Like I said elsewhere, have any of the draft pundits ever been correct about what position the Bills will pick, much less who?

I guess one or two got Josh Allen correct, but everyone knew we would draft a QB so that limited the choices - and most still had the "Right Josh"

These guys have no accountability for being accurate or for scouting and choosing the best talent - their job is to generate clicks and reads.

 

I think the math is simply "Bills coach says they need to run the ball better and Allen needs to run less therefore they need to draft an RB high"

[Mango]

4 minutes ago, Beck Water said:

 

Well, we have typically gone into the season with 4 RB + a FB on the roster, but one of the RB has traditionally been Taiwan Jones whose primary role is ST.

And with the addition of Trent Sherfield and Zane Anderson, we may be moving away from Jake Kumerow and Taiwan Jones.

 

It's a good question - I would expect the Bills to draft a guy late and pick up 1-2 UDFA vs. spending a high pick.

 

 

You can bet on it that Beane is paying zero attention to media pundit mock drafts.

 

Like I said elsewhere, have any of the draft pundits ever been correct about what position the Bills will pick, much less who?

I guess one or two got Josh Allen correct, but everyone knew we would draft a QB so that limited the choices - and most still had the "Right Josh"

These guys have no accountability for being accurate or for scouting and choosing the best talent - their job is to generate clicks and reads.

 

I think the math is simply "Bills coach says they need to run the ball better and Allen needs to run less therefore they need to draft an RB high"

 

I agree. Sorry, I left out "why do we need to draft another RB high." I can see value in a day 3 player. 

[Mr. WEO]

1st round for a 3rd down back?

 

 

lol

[Magox]

If this guy is available around round 4, you gotta consider him.  I've mentioned him in previous threads.

 

 

 

[BigAl2526]

I think the odds of Bijan Robinson being available at #27 are less than 50/50.  If he is, and the Bills pick a RB, it's Robinson, who checks all the boxes except unreal speed.  Robinson is fast (sub4.5) but not unreal.  Gibbs is a bit faster but lacks the size to have real power inside.  I doubt he's the blocker that Robinson is either.  He's a talented back and I wouldn't mind him as a Bill, but I'd be surprised if the Bills make that pick.

[cgg716]

On 3/28/2023 at 7:34 PM, PrimeTime101 said:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/draft2023/story/_/id/35931704/2023-nfl-mock-draft-mike-tannenbaum-gm-first-round-picks-five-quarterbacks

 

Jahmyr Gibbs RB, Alabama  >>>>> Sigh

 

I just want to say the Buzz around Gibbs is getting real. While we are struggling to get a true #2 WR, some are feeling the next move for Beane is to get a true 3 down RB on this team. With an aging Diggs and still not around him, it makes sense to flip to a stronger running game with a back that has more raw talent then what we have.

 

I am no where near 100% behind this BUT.. If holds true that the run SHOULD open up for better passing then what are the other options? Lets just assume we are done looking for a true #2 WR for the sake of argument and figure out how we can make this team into more of a running machine where we run 40% and pass 60% ++.

 

Well lets look deeper into what we need to pull this switch off. Just for giggles, yes?

1. Short up the left side of the line. Check.

2. A solid TE. Check.

3. A RT to compete better? Hmm?

4. a PROVEN high end trusted RB out of the draft?

 

This does not seem so hard does it? 

 

Why McD would want to make such quick changes? That is easy... He is now calling the shots on defense, and we have a OC 1 year on that McD feels he trusts that is likely saying... "If you cant get me a true #2 WR on this team then we need to change!!!" Also, it has been well documented on these boards that Beane has been chasing a RB for years that can fit this type of bill. 

 

Though I do not necessarily like this direction, at this point it may be the easier direction to go in. For how long have we said everything we do is JA and nothing else?

 

This will get instant eyerolls, pukes and disagreements but I get it.. 

 

How many times on these boards have said... we need our Thurman Thomas? 

 

 

It would be another move that signaled they think we are in 1993

[PrimeTime101]

Another source has us going same RB in round 1

 

https://walterfootball.com/draft2023charlie_1.php?rbBot