Milanos Milano Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 So glad we are done with this chapter. He just wasn’t reliable enough and couldn’t move the chains when Allen needed it most. Best of luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Nice guy, glad he's gone. Too many gaffs when it mattered most in games for me. Same with Singletary. Great guy, even better team player, but missing when it counted most, and fumble prone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Hope he succeeds, seems like a cool guy. I think playing in a dome will be better for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Homey D. Clown said: Nice guy, glad he's gone. Too many gaffs when it mattered most in games for me. Same with Singletary. Great guy, even better team player, but missing when it counted most, and fumble prone. I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. Really strange how that happens. It's undeniably true. Note: traditionally, the term is scapegoat. I don't know if the neologism is intended, but escape goat is rather witty. The critical act of the fan as both escapism and vicarious scourging of the selected victim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 Basically was given the slot role and had the opportunity to show his skills as a starter and just blew it time & time again. McKenzie really could’ve increased his worth, but didn’t take full advantage. I wish him luck, but if he can’t make it Josh Allen then I don’t think whoever the Colts start can make it work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 3 hours ago, Beck Water said: I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. I dont disagree with much here. But I am curious to the bold. Who do you think is getting the privilege of having their mistakes overlooked or forgotten? From what I've seen out of Bills fans over the past year, EVERY mistake by EVERY player is blown up and over-critiqued until it has been beaten into the ground. Somewhere over the last year BillsMafia decided that only ABSOLUTE PERFECTION will be tolerated (not even celebrated). I cant think of a single player that has managed to stay above it. Even Diggs and Josh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: I dont disagree with much here. But I am curious to the bold. Who do you think is getting the privilege of having their mistakes overlooked or forgotten? From what I've seen out of Bills fans over the past year, EVERY mistake by EVERY player is blown up and over-critiqued until it has been beaten into the ground. Somewhere over the last year BillsMafia decided that only ABSOLUTE PERFECTION will be tolerated (not even celebrated). I cant think of a single player that has managed to stay above it. Even Diggs and Josh. You have a valid point that we do criticize almost every player to some degree. But would you agree that some players get a relatively small share, whilst others turn into "whipping boys" and get a disproprotionate share? I guess that latter is what I see. Edmunds is one example of a popular fan whipping boy. We'll see now that he's gone. On receivers, what I noticed is that the guys on the team with the highest % drops are Singletary and Shakir, but somehow when "stone hands" or "any position that doesn't require them to catch the ball" is brought up, they don't seem to be mentioned, while Davis and McKenzie are sure to be critiqued. Part of it, I'm sure, is time in the league - we have hopes that Shakir will improve in his second season. On the other hand, Singletary has been here longer than Davis (and actually, I'm pretty sure those drops in the passing game are one of the reasons he's gone). Edited March 22, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 22, 2023 Share Posted March 22, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: You have a valid point that we do criticize almost every player to some degree. But would you agree that some players get a relatively small share, whilst others turn into "whipping boys" and get a disproprotionate share? I guess that latter is what I see. Edmunds is one example of a popular fan whipping boy. We'll see now that he's gone. On receivers, what I noticed is that the guys on the team with the highest % drops are Singletary and Shakir, but somehow when "stone hands" or "any position that doesn't require them to catch the ball" is brought up, they don't seem to be mentioned, while Davis and McKenzie are sure to be critiqued. Oh, we absolutely have our "favorites". The Honorary TBD Whipping Boy goes back to the discussion board days. Whether it was Edmunds and McKenzie, or Leodis McKelvin, or Lee Evans, or Chris Kelsay, or... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Punching Bag Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/21/2023 at 7:43 PM, The Jokeman said: He was cut, so no he won't go in comp pic formula. He was signed to a four year contract and not resigned so he was not "cut", Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 12 hours ago, Beck Water said: I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. That’s because since BBMB went down, this board’s IQ dropped at least 25 points. We’re hovering in the upper double digits right now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 7 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: That’s because since BBMB went down, this board’s IQ dropped at least 25 points. We’re hovering in the upper double digits right now. You exaggerate. Not all of the inmates released are unintelligent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Limeaid said: You exaggerate. Not all of the inmates released are unintelligent. not all, but most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 8 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: Oh, we absolutely have our "favorites". The Honorary TBD Whipping Boy goes back to the discussion board days. Whether it was Edmunds and McKenzie, or Leodis McKelvin, or Lee Evans, or Chris Kelsay, or... I seem to recall Donte Whitner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: That’s because since BBMB went down, this board’s IQ dropped at least 25 points. We’re hovering in the upper double digits right now. Offended! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 45 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Offended! please be. It’s still true. 😉 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homey D. Clown Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 On 3/22/2023 at 10:02 AM, Beck Water said: I don't want this to happen, but it's low hanging fruit to predict that you and those like you will celebrate McKenzie's departure only for so long as it takes the new "upgrade" guys Harty and Sherfield to make a gaff in a game or two. This board seems to like to choose "escape goats" where folks dwell on every mistake and discount every good play, while other players seemingly have their mistakes overlooked or forgotten. If I were blaming losses and the lack of superbowls on them, then I could agree I was using them as scapegoats. It's another thing entirely to be happy the team is trying to upgrade a few players I liked, but did not see them as the solution for this team in their positions. Maybe we slow down on people who share my viewpoint a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 56 minutes ago, Homey D. Clown said: If I were blaming losses and the lack of superbowls on them, then I could agree I was using them as scapegoats. It's another thing entirely to be happy the team is trying to upgrade a few players I liked, but did not see them as the solution for this team in their positions. Maybe we slow down on people who share my viewpoint a little. Nah. It's one thing to be happy the team is trying to upgrade a few players you didn't see as the solution for this team in their positions. I'm all for that. I can see where the Bills view Harty as a higher ceiling guy and Sherfield as bringing a different skillset, so move on from McKenzie and give them a try. It's another thing to ***** on departing players who went hard here "missing when it mattered most" "too many gaffs at big moments", apparently having amnesia about the times they came through when it mattered. That's scapegoating, if you want to go there, Go There but don't expect a pass for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Another team first player who gave his all and will be missed. Granted, he made a few errors along the way but who doesn't. Thanks for your efforts in Buffalo Isaiah. Especially for that career game against the Pats, you were awesome that day! Good luck in Indy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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