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1 minute ago, 1onemangang7 said:

He was slight even in the SEC and the Bills should use him just as they did...not often on the ground.

Yes, I am aware of your opinion. We differ. No point in endless back-and-forth. The reality will be resolved on the playing field. Certainly, it would be better for the Bills if I am right.

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2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I think you’re being a little harsh
 

In the latter part of the season, I saw cooki running between the tackles and doing pretty well

Well with two bruisers back there now maybe he cam run untouched a couple times then you guys can claim he's the greatest runner of all time with his 9.7 yards per carry.

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1 minute ago, Dr. Who said:

Yes, I am aware of your opinion. We differ. No point in endless back-and-forth. The reality will be resolved on the playing field. Certainly, it would be better for the Bills if I am right.

I disagree. Then Allen has to carry again .. limited.

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1 minute ago, Einstein's Dog said:

Personally I think you are getting a little too player specific.  It could make you dislike Beane's moves when he is trying to accomplish much the same things as you are advocating.

 

If the FO goes for another OL, some type of WR play -either a vet (OBJ) or high draft pick, I'll be on board.  I'm good with whatever they decide on LB -the big move I was hoping for was for them to let Edmunds go.

I acknowledge that, but part of the fun of the offseason is pretending to be GM. I think my plan is a good one, but there are certainly others.

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13 minutes ago, The Red King said:

 

Never said he was this big game-changer.  Just saying if he can do what Josh can do, then defenses will be forced to respect that and deploy a defense that can defend against both, rather then focus strictly on Josh.  It's like having a superstar defensive end paired with a sub-par end.  The O-Line can double-team all day with no fear.  Now, pair that same star with a good/great end and it becomes a problem.  Yes, the star will be getting most of the attention, but the other end will need to be at least respected, and can go on a tear if not given enough attention.

I dont think teams will adjust or be forced to do anything because Damien Harris is on the field is my point. Did the Bills adjust the D because of him? Did any team adjust because of him? This is really diminishing our other RB's. This is not a Ferrari vs Kia upgrade. Its more like a Toyota vs Honda. Same quality, different skillset. 

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1 hour ago, Virgil said:

At least we know Robinson is off their draft board.  

 

I don't think that is necessarily the case though.  I mean if Beane loves Robinson, then signing a RB to a 1 year deal IMHO would not take Robinson off their board at 27.

 

The reality though is that Bijan is almost certainly going to be gone by 27 though, so I don't think it's a decision Beane and the Bills will face.  Once he ran a good 40 and removed any break away speed doubts, any chance he could slide to 27 was all but eliminated.  He has a chance to go within the first 10 picks, and has very little chance of reaching us at 27 IMHO.  

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44 minutes ago, ngbills said:

 

This requires changing the play calling and the OL being able to block. Our block scheme is not a power run blocking scheme and the personnel represents that. I’m not sure if the RB changes that. The reaction is like Harris is a game changer. I agree he is a better short yardage runner than we have had. But we also have not had a scheme or OL so who knows how successful we could have been already. 

 

I don't think anyone would argue with you that our Oline is deficient. I also don't think Harris only works with a power run blocking scheme. I'd rather have him take a shot up the middle than Josh though, and he is strong enough to break a tackle or 5 as the tape shows. 

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2 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said:

Just an epic failure to go RB in back-to-back years in second round and first round. They couldn't pull the trigger on him even if they did love him. They would at minimum have to work out a trade for Cook somehow. I see this first round pick being a WR, LB, or o-lineman with an outside shot of a TE. 

 

The Bills took 2 off-seasons to fix cap issues from the previous regime and put themselves right back there 4 seasons later  If people want to understand why, a lack of vision on draft day is a contributing cause to that issue.    

 

Singletary and Moss cost RD3 picks, albeit were on rookie contracts.  They ultimately replaced both with veterans in Harris and Hines who cost more in cap than a rookie contract player would.  They continue doubling down at RB and then cry how they're cap poor.  In 7 off-seasons, they've re-signed McCoy, signed UFAs like Tolbert, DiMarco, Ivory, Gore, Yeldon, Breida, and now Harris.  All while using 3 top-100 picks on RBs.        

 

Is it that hard to identify a player in the 4th-7th rounds or via UDFA that can offer production on a rookie contract so they can start investing in WR's at the top of the draft?  It shouldn't be, but then again RD1 seems reserved for QB's and defensive players.  

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2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I don't think that is necessarily the case though.  I mean if Beane loves Robinson, then signing a RB to a 1 year deal IMHO would not take Robinson off their board at 27.

 

The reality though is that Bijan is almost certainly going to be gone by 27 though, so I don't think it's a decision Beane and the Bills will face.  Once he ran a good 40 and removed any break away speed doubts, any chance he could slide to 27 was all but eliminated.  He has a chance to go within the first 10 picks, and has very little chance of reaching us at 27 IMHO.  


I just don’t think we are a team that works like that anymore.  We have our prioritized positions that we pay, and then the rest of the team will be rookies and one year deal guys.  
 

RBs are a dime a dozen to us based on this regime.  With needing to upgrade MLB and offensive line (Beane’s words), I can’t imagine them not prioritizing them in the first 3 rounds.  If Beane doesn’t put high picks into those positions, takes a chance on high potential guys, and they fail to contribute, then I think that’s a really bad look.  
 

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18 minutes ago, Dr. Who said:

Yes, I am aware of your opinion. We differ. No point in endless back-and-forth. The reality will be resolved on the playing field. Certainly, it would be better for the Bills if I am right.

You can’t have a differing opinion that other people these days.. on any topic

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14 minutes ago, ngbills said:

I dont think teams will adjust or be forced to do anything because Damien Harris is on the field is my point. Did the Bills adjust the D because of him? Did any team adjust because of him? This is really diminishing our other RB's. This is not a Ferrari vs Kia upgrade. Its more like a Toyota vs Honda. Same quality, different skillset. 

 

Maybe the Bills should have since he put up 3 100 yard games against them in the 4 times he played and scored 5 YDs 

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1 minute ago, GolfandBills said:

You can’t have a differing opinion that other people these days.. on any topic

I go to a different site when I want to speak plainly about things that matter.

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So … to summarize:

- the Bills brain trust drafted Singletary in 2019 while Harris was still on the board

- Singletary’s performance so far has ratified that judgement. He has been superior to that of Harris, both in terms of health (a lot) and productivity (a little)

- 4 years later the same Bills brain trust changes its collective mind, and signs Harris while letting Singletary walk. 
I’m not terribly worked up about this, but isn’t this just a move for the sake of making a move?

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If a member of the Bills Mafia invents a time machine, I'll ask them to bring us Thurman, Cookie, and Freddy to fill out our RB room.   But given the harsh realities of science and spending caps, I'm happy with Harris.

 

When I watched him play against, I remember thinking, "I wish we had a back like that."   Now we do, at an affordable cost.  

 

For those comparing Motor's stats with Harris, let's remember Motor was running in a Josh Allen led offense while Harris was running in a Mac Jones led offense.  Defenses playing against us play with one thought in mind: slow Allen.   NE's offense is more balanced than our which means the defenses they face don't sell out to stop the pass.

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1 hour ago, ngbills said:

So now we want Harris having the ball over Josh? When he was on the Pats I guarantee we would all say Josh is more dangerous in the red zone than Harris. 

From inside the 3 yard line on a running play, I would say so, yes.  The less hits Allen is taking the better.  

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8 minutes ago, Rigotz said:


Can we take a moment to appreciate how truly stupid this post is? Haha 

 

Of all the things to be upset about, you’re upset that he’s the same height and weight as several hall of fame calibre running backs?

 

I wasn't upset at all i was just making a passing observation to who the Bills have brought in prior to this guy and didn't realize it would generate that much displeasure but y'all are the experts i guess . 

 

Okay so i looked back at the height & weight of some HOF backs & you are right some are even smaller than this guy & went on to become HOF'ers my bad .

 

So i will take the flack that you all have put out because of my remark about this guys stature & hope that this guy proves me wrong .

 

Thank you to all for making me aware of just how much more football savvy you are than me it's much appreciated .

 

From now on i will try to refrain from such remarks . Thanks again !! Go Bills !!! 

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18 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said:

 

I don't think that is necessarily the case though.  I mean if Beane loves Robinson, then signing a RB to a 1 year deal IMHO would not take Robinson off their board at 27.

 

The reality though is that Bijan is almost certainly going to be gone by 27 though, so I don't think it's a decision Beane and the Bills will face.  Once he ran a good 40 and removed any break away speed doubts, any chance he could slide to 27 was all but eliminated.  He has a chance to go within the first 10 picks, and has very little chance of reaching us at 27 IMHO.  

 

If he gets to Dallas right in front of us he gets no further. 

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