Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 minutes ago, 1onemangang7 said: 80 You think they'll only give Cook 20 % ? I expect more like 50/50 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Manther said: And, do we care more about a potential 3rd round comp pick than compete for a Championship? Beane has wasted many 3rd round picks on trade up, unfortunately. However, I do think we will end up with a 3rd round comp pick for Edmunds. There is lots of time between now and May for players to be signed. We don't need to sign much more and we have lots of players that are FA's and will be signed by other teams. What current Bills free agents will sign for over 2 million a year to even qualify for the donpnpick formula? I don’t see anymore that will. Highly unlikely we get a comp pick in 2024 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: One qualifying contract cancels out another one regardless of value. That is what I thought. But, I am not confident. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NC-billsfan! Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 38 minutes ago, alluro said: Can anyone confirm Buffalo lost a third round comp pick by signing Harris? If so, that is a HUGE mistep by Brandon Beane...unbelievable. I like the thought of considering comp picks when signing free agents. I think long term, it’s just good planning. I believe the staff always considers long term outcomes. That being said, our Super Bowl window is open now. Do I believe in selling out to get a Super Bowl. Yes and no. If it works great (see Rams). But if the Rams lost they would look foolish now. Oops back to my point. I think our window got shorter because of everything that happened last year. Last year was probably year one for winning a SB. Me personally, I don’t want to do what the Rams did, but minor things (argument could be made against it) like comp picks don’t concern me. Plus there’s the it’s a wash argument. Bottom line, if Harris makes us better today for the right term, sign him. On a side note. I hated that guy. He was a Bill killer. At the very least, sign him and bench him. Then he will at least quit carving us up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 1 minute ago, Warriorspikes51 said: You think they'll only give Cook 20 % ? I expect more like 50/50 Huge upgrade to Cook, don't know if he'll ever stay healthy. When healthy you'll see you don't want Cook in there 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, Manther said: That is what I thought. But, I am not confident. Basically a player has to sign a contract that qualifies for the formula which is a top 35% contract(somewhere a little over 2 million a year). Players signing contracts under that don’t even count toward the formula. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 tuddies in 2021. I am fine with it 👍 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 9 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: One qualifying contract cancels out another one regardless of value. It doesn’t make any sense at all. It’s the dumbest formula. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 I'm OK with this. I hope we have our first 1,000 yard Rusher in years. I know Josh will still run a lot because the OL is so bad, but I still hope he dors not run nearly as much. Too much risk of injury and too many fumbles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 6 minutes ago, Manther said: And, do we care more about a potential 3rd round comp pick than compete for a Championship? Beane has wasted many 3rd round picks on trade up, unfortunately. However, I do think we will end up with a 3rd round comp pick for Edmunds. There is lots of time between now and May for players to be signed. We don't need to sign much more and we have lots of players that are FA's and will be signed by other teams. I thought the ante to getting comp picks was a minimum of net zero gained or lost or 1 player positive lost? It is but the contracts have to qualify 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harmonkillebrew Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Harris helps change our offensive identity. We'll have a smash mouth side to us now. We just need a road grader G on the right side to pair with Spencer Brown 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 8 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: Not saying he would. Timing just curious that within a couple hours of Singletary signing with Texans, Bills sign Harris. Almost like Beane was waiting to see terms of Singletary’s deal. Because Harris was hurt last year, there’s a lot of NLTBE bonus money that Harris could probably easily earn this year as well. I dont disagree about waiting to see terms. That's what usually happens. One guy at a position signs, and then all the other FAs at that position sign. Same thing happened last week right after Poyer signed. All the other Safeties out there signed because the market was then set. I'm just not sure Comp Pick was in his thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 54 minutes ago, alluro said: Can anyone confirm Buffalo lost a third round comp pick by signing Harris? If so, that is a HUGE mistep by Brandon Beane...unbelievable. Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 2 hours ago, flmike said: The team desperately needs help at LB and CB and safety depth, not to mention a true run-stuffing DL and you don't want to use picks there? Absolutely not. We’ve used nothing but PREMIUM picks the past 4 years on that side of the ball, and it’s gotten us stomped in the playoffs by better OFFENSIVE TEAMS with more PLAYMAKERS. Dear God, some of you on here think this Front office walks on water. Just now, McBean said: Absolutely not. We’ve used nothing but PREMIUM picks the past 4 years on that side of the ball, and it’s gotten us stomped in the playoffs by better OFFENSIVE TEAMS with more PLAYMAKERS. Dear God, some of you on here think this Front office walks on water. also, we have JOSH ALLEN as our QB. Protect the kid at all costs. Help him out for once! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 14 hours ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: https://youtu.be/AiZzxhwLMYQ Dude. Runs. Hard. I like how he makes a decision on his one cut, plants, and goes. He has speed and he finishes runs punishingly. Good vision. A lot of nice plays against the Bills in the above highlight video. Fits the profile to balance with Cook and Hines. Only age 26. Also good to take from NE*. His draft profile: Disciplined and rugged with a very strong sense of who he is as a running back. He operates with a good feel for blocking schemes and finds the designed yards while adding extra with his power and some elusiveness. He lacks game-breaking juice as a runner and will need to keep his weight down or he'll end up in the "grinder" category of runners. Harris is more likely to be good than great as a pro, but his size, every-down game and ball security give him a chance to have fruitful career as a solid starter. The one at 1:06 is insane ! Edited March 21 by ChronicAndKnuckles 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 15 minutes ago, GolfandBills said: Basically a player has to sign a contract that qualifies for the formula which is a top 35% contract(somewhere a little over 2 million a year). Players signing contracts under that don’t even count toward the formula. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Realist Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 14 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said: It's OK. I stand by my comment. Whenever someone comes here and says "I'm a realist" , it basically says "I think I'm the smartest guy in the room". Hmmm... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) 1 hour ago, DrDawkinstein said: LOL, you guys and your comp picks. Honestly thought most of the comp pick talk was just sarcasm because of how little it matters. Getting your guys and shoring up the roster before the draft >>>>> Comp pick If we dont sign Harris then we likely need to use that comp pick on yet another 3rd round RB anyways, so it's all a wash. It does matter. We're talking about a free top 100 pick. Signing an injury ridden RB with a limited skill set to a one year deal is not worth losing that pick. We could have signed Elliott to play the same role, or just drafted one on day three like most teams do for that skill set. Even if you're correct that we would have had to spend that 3rd round pick on a RB (although I will mention this obviously isn't inherently true), there's a big difference between a cost controlled RB on a multi-year rookie contract and a veteran on a one year contract. Let's be real. A one season rental of almost any RB is not worth a 3rd round pick. It's arguable that not a single RB is worth that trade off. For Damien Harris the suggestion is laughable. Edited March 21 by HappyDays 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 13 minutes ago, harmonkillebrew said: Harris helps change our offensive identity. We'll have a smash mouth side to us now. We just need a road grader G on the right side to pair with Spencer Brown I view the Harris move as more upgrading a role than changing offensive identity. Harris is here to excel in short yardage and pass protection. Harris is an upgrade there. The FO is keeping true to its philosophy of a young, cheaper RB room. This looks to increase the role of the newer RB, Cook, jettison the expired RB Singletary. And they may get a backup/developmental big back like R Johnson in the 4th for the future to replace Harris in a year or two. The offensive identity of the Bills will remain Josh-centric (as it should). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 Just now, HappyDays said: It does matter. We're talking about a free top 100 pick. Signing an injury ridden RB with a limited skill set to a one year deal is not worth losing that pick. We could have signed Elliott to play the same role, or just drafted one on day three like most teams do for that skill set. Even if you're correct that we would have had to spend that 3rd round pick on a RB (although I will mention this obviously isn't inherently true), there's a big difference between a cost controlled RB on a rookie deal and a one year veteran. Let's be real. A one season rental of almost any RB is not worth a 3rd round pick. It's arguable that not a single RB is worth that trade off. For Damien Harris the suggestion is laughable. You don’t even know if Harris contract will even qualify for the comp formula. Calm down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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