TC in St. Louis Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Wait and see. He might be a very good signing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 38 minutes ago, Buffalo Bills Fan said: Too early for over reactions. GTFO with that crap. The whole team is trash! Errrrgh! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 hours ago, R.O. said: Lmao anyone notice how Waddle caught everyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) Kind of reminds me of Gabe with hands This probably means the end of Kumerow who will most likely hook up with Aaron Rogers in NY . Edited March 20, 2023 by HOUSE 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I don’t know a ton about him, but all my friends who are Dolphin fans are not happy he landed here and said we are gonna love him. So be interesting to see how he fits in. Funny I told my friends/family who are Giants fans the same thing about Hodgins 😵 Edited March 20, 2023 by BeefCurtns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 7 minutes ago, brianthomas said: i get the sentiment but you dont need to tank to get a talented wr. As evidenced by the wr's available in the past 2 drafts we could've taken where we drafted. Christian Watson or George Pickens last year. Elijah Moore, Rondale Moore, Amon-Ra St Brown the year prior. Sure its not Jamarr Chase but not many are. But it takes proper player evaluation & drafting these guys too. Saying its due to us being too good just seems like a misdirection or an excuse, for any position group, because there are & have been talented players out there available for us to choose. You just have to pick the 'right' ones i guess. Fair enough. There are certainly ways to do it better than the Bills. Just funny with Cincy and Philly being the examples used and the specific paths they took. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SydneyBillsFan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Beast said: When you’re broke you shop at the Dollar General. 🤷🏼 If you've only got 49 cents, where do you shop then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: Between signing guys like Beasley and Brown for the late season push and then Harty and Sherfield in the offseason, it’s clear the team was not happy with the production of guys like McKenzie. Agree they need to find additional WR talent in the draft too. People took it that way, but I think it means the Bills weren't happy with the production of Tanner Gentry or the potential of the guys they had on the PS at the time. The Bills were straight up desperate for bodies at WR after week 9 when Kumerow went on IR. We only had 4 healthy WR (Diggs, Davis, McKenzie, Shakir) and we were elevating and activating Tanner Gentry for 2 games until we signed John Brown. It's pretty notable that even after we signed Brown, McKenzie got 52% of the snaps to Brown's 16%, 64% to Brown's 5%, 56% to Beasley's 14%, 36% to Beasley's 9%, 56% to Brown's 12%. Beasley and Brown didn't get more snaps until McKenzie was out with a hammy for the MIA WC game and probably still not 100% for the Bengals. NOW, overall, did the Bills think they needed to move on from McKenzie? Clearly they did, or they wouldn't have gone out and paid Harty $3.745M then cut McKenzie and signed Sherfield, who had roughly the same yards last season as McKenzie did. But it's also pretty clear that they didn't sign Brown and Beasley because they thought they were better than McKenzie last season; they signed them because they were desperate for a fifth body at WR who had the potential to play better than Gentry, a PS guy, or a guy off the street with no knowledge of our offense. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 I think that makes Buffalo +3 in free agent signings. Pretty sure none of them are worth a 3rd round comp pick that Beane appears to be on the verge of wasting. Hope we start losing some guys or there will be zero compensation for Edmunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, Logic said: If Harty and Sherfield represent an effort to improve the bottom of the WR depth chart and the depth at that position, then they're high quality signings. If, on the other hand, their signing allows Beane to feel that WR has been adequately addressed and causes him to ignore the position in the draft, then I'm not too happy. As depth, special teams, and a means of diversifying the skillsets at WR, they're great. As "the answer" to improving the position group overall...not so much. This is fair. I pray for the former but fear and expect the latter. Predictably, Beane has cornered the "depth WR aka core special teamer" market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 31 minutes ago, Logic said: If Harty and Sherfield represent an effort to improve the bottom of the WR depth chart and the depth at that position, then they're high quality signings. If, on the other hand, their signing allows Beane to feel that WR has been adequately addressed and causes him to ignore the position in the draft, then I'm not too happy. As depth, special teams, and a means of diversifying the skillsets at WR, they're great. As "the answer" to improving the position group overall...not so much. Well said. If they go out and sign/trade/draft for a legit WR2 type/prospect, along with already having upgraded McKenzie/Kumerow with Harty/Sherfield, I'll be very happy with the remake of the WR room. If this is the entirety of their WR plan.... good luck Josh. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 22 minutes ago, Beck Water said: TBH, the dream I have regards getting a WR high in the draft for the change....so I kind of hope we don't pay OBJ what he wants, because I think it's either-or-not-both. And if we want to stay competitive, we really do need to "draft and develop". Interesting. You could be right. I just don’t see the WRs that will be available as having as much of an impact in 2023 as OBj would. I would hope we could sign him to deal that guarantees 1 year so we can move on next year if we want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 11 minutes ago, brianthomas said: i get the sentiment but you dont need to tank to get a talented wr. As evidenced by the wr's available in the past 2 drafts we could've taken where we drafted. Christian Watson or George Pickens last year. Elijah Moore, Rondale Moore, Amon-Ra St Brown the year prior. Sure its not Jamarr Chase but not many are. But it takes proper player evaluation & drafting these guys too. Saying its due to us being too good just seems like a misdirection or an excuse, for any position group, because there are & have been talented players out there available for us to choose. You just have to pick the 'right' ones i guess. This is exactly right. I normally think Brandon Beane is a pretty straight shooter, but I winced when he said that thing about not wanting to suck enough to draft Chase. It reeked of excuse-making to me, exactly for the reasons you said - there were quality WR available where we drafted or for a modest draft move trade. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 35 minutes ago, Logic said: If Harty and Sherfield represent an effort to improve the bottom of the WR depth chart and the depth at that position, then they're high quality signings. If, on the other hand, their signing allows Beane to feel that WR has been adequately addressed and causes him to ignore the position in the draft, then I'm not too happy. As depth, special teams, and a means of diversifying the skillsets at WR, they're great. As "the answer" to improving the position group overall...not so much. Excellent post. I've tried to keep an open mind knowing the this is just phase 1 of the offseason and the full plan won't be known until after the draft. I am going to reserve judgment on Beane until then. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, NewEra said: Interesting. You could be right. I just don’t see the WRs that will be available as having as much of an impact in 2023 as OBj would. I would hope we could sign him to deal that guarantees 1 year so we can move on next year if we want. I don't follow college football enough to have an opinion on the WR in the draft that's worth the powder it'd take to blow it to hell. I do follow "draftology" enough to know that the chances of getting a player who can contribute in Year 1 are better in the 1st and 2nd round, slide some in the 3rd, and that day 3 guys, if they do contribute, typically take a couple years to find their feet. I also have pretty good respect for Greg Cosell and if he names 2 WR he thinks can contribute their 1st years and believes at least 1 will be available where the Bills pick, to me that's worth listening to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 53 minutes ago, BananaB said: If I was Josh I’d say FU I’m never restructuring again. Fortunately, you are not our QB1 C'mon man - having a petulant snit about a WR signed to compete at the bottom of the roster, and one who actually did contribute for the Dolphins last year? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, SCBills said: Well said. If they go out and sign/trade/draft for a legit WR2 type/prospect, along with already having upgraded McKenzie/Kumerow with Harty/Sherfield, I'll be very happy with the remake of the WR room. If this is the entirety of their WR plan.... good luck Josh. Exactly, so now we pray for a cheap Dhop/ OBJ 2 yr signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly, so now we pray for a cheap Dhop/ OBJ 2 yr signing. Beane never makes an obvious signing, this means it will be a no name from Biscayne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 9 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly, so now we pray for a cheap Dhop/ OBJ 2 yr signing. I'm still fully on the OBJ train for a sensible deal. Even if they sign either of them I still want a WR in the first 3 rounds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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