Chugga Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I just don’t get it. You want someone running jet sweeps we have McKenzie and for far cheaper. You want a threat in the return game we have Nyheim Hines and once again for much cheaper. This just seems like a weird use of resources. Obviously I could be wrong and maybe he adds something dynamic that I just don’t see but it seems awfully expensive when we could have taken a flier on a 6th round WR at a fraction of the cost and paid for a MLB instead 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Chugga said: I just don’t get it. You want someone running jet sweeps we have McKenzie and for far cheaper. You want a threat in the return game we have Nyheim Hines and once again for much cheaper. This just seems like a weird use of resources. Obviously I could be wrong and maybe he adds something dynamic that I just don’t see but it seems awfully expensive when we could have taken a flier on a 6th round WR at a fraction of the cost and paid for a MLB instead Apparently a bunch of NFL GM's disagree with you. Handful of teams wanted him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Warriorspikes51 said: Apparently a bunch of NFL GM's disagree with you. Handful of teams wanted him And I’m sure those handful of teams don’t have McKenzie or Hines. I’m not knocking his merit as a player I’m wondering where he fits and if it was the optimal signing. Won’t have an answer for that until kickoff but I guess I’m just surprised by the pickup with the needs of this team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 24 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I bet he sees the field way more than expected. His speed and explosiveness should make him the 3rd or 4th option. He's dangerous underneath and deep He could. I’m sure they’re signing him with the idea that he can outperform the contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lothar Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said: Based on? Over 4 seasons played in 40 out of 66 possible games, started only 4, caught all of 64 balls for 793 yards, 8.9 avg and a whole 4 TDs? That averages out to 10 games per season, 1 start, 1.6 catches and 19.8 per game and 1 TD a year? McKenzie, who is 2" taller, over the same time frame played in 61 out of 66 possible games, started 25 of them, caught 119 balls for 1137 yards, 9.6 avg, 11 TDs. He's a returner who plays some WR He's been brought here to be a wide receiver. He's had 9 fumbles in less than 100 touches. Every one of them came as a returner. He's not going to be playing special teams unless it's an emergency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chugga Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I can only assume they are bringing him in to be a severely poor man’s Tyreek Hill which I can get on board with. But the skeptic in me is still waiting on the edge of his seat waiting to see the packages we have for Nyheim Hines that sadly never surfaced in 2022. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlaFitz1 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 5 minutes ago, Lothar said: He's been brought here to be a wide receiver. He's had 9 fumbles in less than 100 touches. Every one of them came as a returner. He's not going to be playing special teams unless it's an emergency. Why would they bring in a guy who was a pro bowl and all pro returner to not play special teams but line him up at WR where he hasn't exactly set the world on fire? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: how is he not? He's 3rd of WR and 4th overall in yards, had 5 TDs total, caught 65% of his passes (with the drops). That's a chunk for WR3 IMO, he was supposed to do more or they wanted more out of him. He was replacing Beasley and was supposed to give us that more athletic slot guy and can get a little more YAC. That type of production is something that's not totally hard to replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, Royale with Cheese said: IMO, he was supposed to do more or they wanted more out of him. He was replacing Beasley and was supposed to give us that more athletic slot guy and can get a little more YAC. That type of production is something that's not totally hard to replace. I understand. But it must be harder than we think, given McD's struggle thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Mr. WEO said: I understand. But it must be harder than we think, given McD's struggle thus far. I think we've been pretty good in the slot when we had Beasley 2019-2021. Last year that was a big issue without him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 3 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: I think we've been pretty good in the slot when we had Beasley 2019-2021. Last year that was a big issue without him. Yes, that's pretty much it. He was a good pickup. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Not sure if this was posted anywhere. Just one guy's opinion, but from someone who watches the Aint's. Who is Deonte Harty? Saints Wire dishes intel on new Bills WR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 I’m sure this was mentioned somewhere in the 29 pages of this thread, but it is possible that he could be a Jamison Crowder replacement. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 54 minutes ago, FlaFitz1 said: Why would they bring in a guy who was a pro bowl and all pro returner to not play special teams but line him up at WR where he hasn't exactly set the world on fire? Because they have vision, 1 hour ago, Chugga said: I just don’t get it. You want someone running jet sweeps we have McKenzie and for far cheaper. You want a threat in the return game we have Nyheim Hines and once again for much cheaper. This just seems like a weird use of resources. Obviously I could be wrong and maybe he adds something dynamic that I just don’t see but it seems awfully expensive when we could have taken a flier on a 6th round WR at a fraction of the cost and paid for a MLB instead Because you don’t see him the way the bills see him. As a WR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 hours ago, The Jokeman said: I was about to post the same thing, granted he is a Pro Bowl return man but even so. Yikes. lol those numbers are pretty much peanuts nowadays. Calm down 1 hour ago, Chugga said: I just don’t get it. You want someone running jet sweeps we have McKenzie and for far cheaper. You want a threat in the return game we have Nyheim Hines and once again for much cheaper. This just seems like a weird use of resources. Obviously I could be wrong and maybe he adds something dynamic that I just don’t see but it seems awfully expensive when we could have taken a flier on a 6th round WR at a fraction of the cost and paid for a MLB instead Yeah but Harty is a far better player and a million more on the cap isn’t anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BobbyC81 Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 7 hours ago, DJB said: Woah seems overpaid yikes Definitely. 64 receptions in 4 years. I don’t get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Chugga said: I can only assume they are bringing him in to be a severely poor man’s Tyreek Hill which I can get on board with. But the skeptic in me is still waiting on the edge of his seat waiting to see the packages we have for Nyheim Hines that sadly never surfaced in 2022. You can’t say that. Board police will put you in cuffs. 1 hour ago, FlaFitz1 said: Why would they bring in a guy who was a pro bowl and all pro returner to not play special teams but line him up at WR where he hasn't exactly set the world on fire? Especially with this Coach. Hines ended up playing ST immediately and never emerged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 4 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: You can’t say that. Board police will put you in cuffs. Especially with this Coach. Hines ended up playing ST immediately and never emerged. Because he was 3rd on the depth chart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted March 15, 2023 Share Posted March 15, 2023 Just now, The Jokeman said: Because he was 3rd on the depth chart. We’ll see. I’m highly skeptical that a 5’6” 170 pounder is going to be a regular starter on this team. Beane thought he was giving McDermott and Dorsey a weapon in Hines and he touched the ball 11 times on offense. The Bills just don’t have a track record of getting these types of players involved. McKenzie is a small slot and Allen struggled to get him the ball with any efficiency. Like others have said, nothing against the player, but I just don’t see how you can rely on him as a real player. He’s never been counted on to really produce as a Top 3 option, and he’s never been counted on to be healthy. I’ll be surprised if he emerges as more than a bit player for the Bills. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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