KOKBILLS Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 11 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I want Wagner. The dude is basically the same age as David but still played at an all pro level last season They're both really good... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I am not arguing for them to throw big assets at safety. But the end of the Jordan and Micah combo this year was a classic case of don't know what you've got 'til it's gone. I certainly know what we didnt have last year... an Offensive Line... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 17 minutes ago, KOKBILLS said: They're both really good... I know Wagner still is. I haven't really kept up with David in a while 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Hope the Miller and Allen restructures are tied to this getting done soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeverOutNick Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 If we sign David I’ll be ecstatic. Loved that dude since he was at Nebraska. Such a smart LB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, CDogg20 said: Trade Oliver and get Jefferey Simmoms would most likely be the move in this scenario This "wood" get me to 12:00 in a hurry! 😋 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichRiderBills Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Comparing him to Edmunds is moot now. That being said...David's a baller and on field leader. He'd be great for the D for a couple years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: In my opinion this is an upgrade from Edmunds. It would also match with Sean’s comments about playing with a nastier edge This is where you have to be careful. Dude is going to be 34. Guys fall off a cliff really fast. I love the player and would welcome him but I’ve seen these story a lot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUNTANBILLS FAN Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, bills6969 said: He’s old And great 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I am not arguing for them to throw big assets at safety. But the end of the Jordan and Micah combo this year was a classic case of don't know what you've got 'til it's gone. Idk, we knew what we had didn't we? Thats why we paid them back then & thought of them as the best safety tandem in the league right? The 2 of them worked together like hand in glove & you didnt have to worry about much when they were out there together on the field. Surely a dropoff was to be expected when you lose 1 or both of them? But them being gone last season is part of the reasoning to move on. Availability is the best ability & Hyde was out the whole year injured & Poyer missed another 4 weeks. Their availability as they age will not improve... it likely should only get worse. Spending top dollar on 2 safeties past 30 isn't my ideal way to allocate limited resources. All that being said i'd like 1 more year to run it back if Poyer would take it, since on the surface we're so close to the SB & have many other positions to focus on. Otherwise i say move on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 55 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: I know Wagner still is. I haven't really kept up with David in a while I was thinking...It's too bad Wagner did not go to LA one season earlier so Von could better recruit him now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Would be an upgrade at middle linebacker AND he meets the minimum 30 year age threshold to be a Beane defensive signing. Would be a slam dunk signing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 hours ago, MAJBobby said: The Kid from San Fran would be my target. al-sheer. And 25 years OL. Really, really, really bad in coverage in 2021, not great in 2022. Maybe McD can coach him up? 2 hours ago, TwistofFate said: He was on the field non stop. Tampa offense couldn't sustain squat. He had almost 300 more snaps on field then Edmunds and played 1 week less. Defense gets worn down. It's hilarious to even have these conversations. David is better and it's not even an argument imo. I've watched tons of Tampa Bay over the last two years. Their LBs in White and David put our to shame. The Bears made a stupid investment. Edmunds is not worth the highest paid LB in the NFL..period. Any fan who watches more than just the Buffalo Bills knows this. He made next to zero impact plays here. For the kind of money they paid him, he needs to be a game changer....new flash...he's not and never will be. Go watch the games, not just look at numbers on a paper. I’m not saying I don’t want either old LBers, but Father Time is unbeaten. Losing Edmunds sucks, I think he’ll be harder to replace than fans want to admit… Hope I’m wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Mr. WEO said: "Lots"? He missed 9 tackles on 1075 snaps! He had 124 total and 80 solo. lol wtf... And Edmunds had 1 missed tackle all year and was better vs the pass. It’s all a moot point now, but let’s all stop acting like Edmunds was garbage, he did things better than Wagner/David did last year due to his superior athleticism and isn’t even in his prime. He did some things worse because he doesn’t yet still have great instincts and probably had too much responsibility. If Bills land Davis/Wagner, awesome. They are instinctive vets who have a tendency for big wow plays. IMO it’s a wash between them, you trade off. I’m worried about if we DON’T land David/Wagner, because now we might be talking significant downgrade. Edited March 14, 2023 by TheyCallMeAndy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 Bills need a 33-year-old, slowing LB this year about as much as they needed Terrel Bernard last year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillzFreak Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 1 minute ago, Airseven said: Bills need a 33-year-old, slowing LB this year about as much as they needed Terrel Bernard last year. Yawn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Airseven said: Bills need a 33-year-old, slowing LB this year about as much as they needed Terrel Bernard last year. Problem is, Wagner and Davis are probably the only ones left who aren’t significant downgrades. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 I’ll take either guy, can’t wait for Chi to realize the got JAG in Edmunds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 this would be a great signing if Beane gets it done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted March 14, 2023 Share Posted March 14, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: Problem is, Wagner and Davis are probably the only ones left who aren’t significant downgrades. Best to use an early draft pick for LB and free agency for S. Of course, they also need a pass rusher.😩 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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