PrimeTime101 Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 2 minutes ago, B-Man said: Lame ? Autocorrect or an opinion ? or maybe both? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 16 minutes ago, DJB said: Kid always intrigued me. Thielen/Terrence Marshall/Shenault/Chark with Hayden Hurst/Tommy Tremble, on paper, has so much potential. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 1 minute ago, BBFL said: Kid always intrigued me. Thielen/Terrence Marshall/Shenault/Chark with Hayden Hurst/Tommy Tremble, on paper, has so much potential. They have all 5 starting O-line coming back (pending Corbett's recovery)...Miles Sanders... isn't the worst situation for a rookie to come into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 13 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: They have all 5 starting O-line coming back (pending Corbett's recovery)...Miles Sanders... isn't the worst situation for a rookie to come into. Honestly might be the best situation that one of those first round QBs can go. Maybe splitting hairs with Raiders. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearNorth Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 It does speak to the dismal state of offensive line talent that many pundits still say that Saffold is among the top 10 guards available. SMH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 24, 2023 Share Posted March 24, 2023 8 minutes ago, BearNorth said: It does speak to the dismal state of offensive line talent that many pundits still say that Saffold is among the top 10 guards available. SMH That is something I always enjoy. Difference between the top players and just the average players on the offensive line groupings in the NFL is so great that many cannot fathom. Putting together five top notch guys on a line is nearly impossible in today's NFL world. It is the position that has been hurt the most in the free agency era . Most teams have one above average to very good player, a few teams have an excellent player. But most teams struggle to have two good players and two above average players. The rest is made up of pass along free agents and stopgap players. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 On 3/24/2023 at 2:48 PM, boyst said: That is something I always enjoy. Difference between the top players and just the average players on the offensive line groupings in the NFL is so great that many cannot fathom. Putting together five top notch guys on a line is nearly impossible in today's NFL world. It is the position that has been hurt the most in the free agency era . Most teams have one above average to very good player, a few teams have an excellent player. But most teams struggle to have two good players and two above average players. The rest is made up of pass along free agents and stopgap players. Yes, there are not enough top ten guys at each position for every team to have one. There are only ten. Every team is assembling and developing talent from the same pool. Yet somehow it seems every year ~2/3rds of NFL teams have a better line than the Bills. Either the Bills don't value the position group as much or they're not as good at evaluating and developing the talent available. Probably a combination of the 2 imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 23 minutes ago, Turk71 said: Yes, there are not enough top ten guys at each position for every team to have one. There are only ten. Every team is assembling and developing talent from the same pool. Yet somehow it seems every year ~2/3rds of NFL teams have a better line than the Bills. Either the Bills don't value the position group as much or they're not as good at evaluating and developing the talent available. Probably a combination of the 2 imo. I 100% agree. A lot of the guys behind the scenes in the trenches are home grown cultivated talent. This includes the scouting dept. When Beane and co. came in they let go of many of the scouts, almost every single one of the college and pro scouts. One of my sources was the scout who evaluated a Bills player The dude said he had all the raw undeveloped talent of any prospect at his position he'd ever seen and has a chance to develop. He was let go in the great purge. That player didn't get renewed in Buffalo and still playing today 10 years and 6 teams later. This fact has always made me wonder: if a player lasts that long is it a fluke? Why has there been so many teams? Regardless, the guys who generally stay associated with the teams at the lower levels of scouting do not change that often and are brought up in the same system and mentored by their predecessors often. The guys he learned from had their knowledged passed down to the next guy after him, ya know? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Perhaps.. if the Bills were to move on somebody... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Aussie Joe said: Perhaps.. if the Bills were to move on somebody... If they sign him it’s the same group of DTs as last year. Phillips isn’t an Oliver replacement. I expect Shaq Lawson back as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 Just now, Buffalo_Stampede said: If they sign him it’s the same group of DTs as last year. Phillips isn’t an Oliver replacement. I expect Shaq Lawson back as well. No.. not a replacement .. but might help to fill the hole with someone else like Ford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 27, 2023 Share Posted March 27, 2023 If they sign Phillips and still bring in Calais Campbell for a visit, I’ll start to let myself dream… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: I expect Shaq Lawson back as well. Per a source, the Bills have offered a vet minimum deal to Shaq Lawson. He's waiting to see if he can get a better offer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Just saw the NFL owners have approved that players can wear the number 0. Who will be our #0. CALVIN RIDLEY on Twitter: "Excited to be the first @Jaguars player to wear zero - shout out to @JagsEquip! #ReadyToWork https://t.co/MfympKGWSl" / Twitter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 8 minutes ago, Gregg said: Just saw the NFL owners have approved that players can wear the number 0. Who will be our #0. CALVIN RIDLEY on Twitter: "Excited to be the first @Jaguars player to wear zero - shout out to @JagsEquip! #ReadyToWork https://t.co/MfympKGWSl" / Twitter According to this board? Spencer Brown or Ed Oliver. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Success Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 Sounds like the Pats are out of the mix on Jackson. They'll roll back what I like to call the "Losman/Edwards sequel" of Jones/Zappe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 28, 2023 Share Posted March 28, 2023 17 minutes ago, Success said: Sounds like the Pats are out of the mix on Jackson. They'll roll back what I like to call the "Losman/Edwards sequel" of Jones/Zappe. I'm not sure you can say the Cheaters are out since they were never really in it, what with Lamar's contract demands, much less the 2-1st rounders they'd have to give the hated Ravens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 33 minutes ago, Doc said: I'm not sure you can say the Cheaters are out since they were never really in it, what with Lamar's contract demands, much less the 2-1st rounders they'd have to give the hated Ravens. I think that they can trade him for less than that if he doesn’t sign the tag, right? I think the Ravens still hold his rights, he’s not just a UFA right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 29, 2023 Share Posted March 29, 2023 18 minutes ago, Mango said: I think that they can trade him for less than that if he doesn’t sign the tag, right? I think the Ravens still hold his rights, he’s not just a UFA right now. I don't believe so and I don't see why they would agree to trade him for less. And he'd need to sign the tag before being traded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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