The Jokeman Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 2 hours ago, warrior9 said: Which is why he wants that guarantee money and the Raven's are smart and not budging. Idk who will play running back for them if he doesn't return though. They've fired Greg Roman, so I wouldn't be shocked they look towards a more traditional offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 8 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Turning down generational wealth to risk earning even more generational wealth is the start of an unfortunate parable. Maybe the risk will be worth it in the end. But it's the similar mindset of a gambler who wins big and then bets it all on red. He's one awkward hit away from having his life ruined. You’re overreacting. It’s negotiations. I don’t totally agree with it but dude is going to get paid big time. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 13 minutes ago, HOUSE said: To be paid the highest contract in the league I always thought that was reserved for the #1 guy Crazy me... Sadly not in today's NFL. It's last man up and best available at that time. Lamar has an inflated self worth as he's not MVP Lamar and has no agent to tell him different. I'm expecting him to get franchised and traded either this off-season or late during the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) 2 hours ago, dpberr said: Out of any player on the market this year, I feel he will be the most disappointed by the interest he receives from teams. Like Aaron Rodgers-level disappointment as he fell to 24th in the 2005 draft. I don't think the Ravens are interested, and I suspect teams know about whatever health issues he has that have been kept under wraps. IMO, I think his body is toast insofar as it being able to handle the rigors of playing in the NFL. The offers will be heavy on incentives, light on anything guaranteed. If they franchise him under a non-exclusive tag (I think they will) he can sit in a room alone under the light of a single bulb and negotiate with himself. I don't think anyone meets his demands. In addition to the risk of injury teams also have to figure out whether Lamar really is scheme versatile or whether Roman's run heavy offence was crucial in putting him in a position to succeed. Edited February 23 by starrymessenger 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 I always find it incredible that people on message boards always think they know better than the actual players when it comes to those players’ finances. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thrivefourfive Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 It could be a death blow to the entire organization if they don’t handle this right. Getting a boatload of draft picks seems to be the safest bet. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 12 minutes ago, Billl said: I always find it incredible that people on message boards always think they know better than the actual players when it comes to those players’ finances. Yeah we should just leave it up to the player. We shouldn't even discuss player comp lol... By the way, I think Lamar should be listening to a professional representative instead of his mom. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 11 minutes ago, starrymessenger said: Yeah we should just leave it up to the player. We shouldn't even discuss player comp lol... By the way, I think Lamar should be listening to a professional representative instead of his mom. So go on record. You think he’s getting less guaranteed money than the $133m he reportedly turned down? I’ll say he gets substantially more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 1 minute ago, Billl said: So go on record. You think he’s getting less guaranteed money than the $133m he reportedly turned down? I’ll say he gets substantially more than that. I just went on the record saying he's not getting everything he has asked for in the way of a guarantee, specifically a fully guaranteed contract. Maybe some GM will do it but I don't believe many would. I think someone, maybe even the Ravens, could offer him more money over a cap friendly six year contract but it won't be fully guaranteed imo (nor should it be). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 Just now, starrymessenger said: I just went on the record saying he's not getting everything he has asked for in the way of a guarantee, specifically a fully guaranteed contract. Maybe some GM will do it but I don't believe many would. I think someone, maybe even the Ravens, could offer him more money over a cap friendly six year contract but it won't be fully guaranteed imo (nor should it be). Nobody gets everything they ask for in a negotiation. Do you think he’ll get more than the $133m guaranteed he turned down? If he does, it means he was smart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted February 23 Share Posted February 23 (edited) If he was a Bill I'd be completely divided on what to do with him. I think whatever way the Ravens go - a boatload of picks or this insane contract would be fine with me. If they value any current draft QBs or next year Qzbs high enough, I'd go with the picks. Not sure he's a top 5 QB in the AFC Allen Burrow Mahomes Herbert Lawrence Edited February 23 by JerseyBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOBART Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, CNYfan said: He may be, if he ends up on the Jets. I'm not worried. I don't think that the Jets will retool, to cater to a one trick pony. Edited February 24 by BUFFALOBART Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 So, it appears that he wants out of Baltimore…, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BUFFALOBART Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 24 minutes ago, Billl said: So go on record. You think he’s getting less guaranteed money than the $133m he reportedly turned down? I’ll say he gets substantially more than that. Hmmmm....let's see.... Say Lamar gets a 5 yr. $300M deal from the Raven's and is surrounded by a team of scrubs, because his is sucking up so much cap. Lamar gets hurt, and Balt. keeps kicking that malignant can down the road, with restructures. Lamar complains that he is getting beat up, and has no one to throw to (etc. etc) Lamar simply doesn't care about his team, or about winning. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 1 hour ago, KDIGGZ said: Lamar's going to get tagged. Is he going to sit out the whole year? He's not getting the money as a 26 yr old RB, is he going to get it as a 27 yr old RB? Didn't we already go through this with Leveon Bell? He doesn’t have to. He just has to wait until right before the first game to sign the tag. The Ravens have a new OC and are going to implement a new offense. He won’t be there to learn the new offense or work with the rest of the offensive players getting it down. That would be a huge setback for the season. I think it’ll be a tag and trade situation. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 18 minutes ago, Billl said: Nobody gets everything they ask for in a negotiation. Do you think he’ll get more than the $133m guaranteed he turned down? If he does, it means he was smart. Its like now you're negotiating with me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted February 24 Author Share Posted February 24 (edited) The contractual demands from Lamar for the Ravens are compounded by the fact that they’re in the AFC. Lamar in the NFC… He might go into the season as the best QB in that conference for whichever team may trade for him. Lamar in the AFC… 2nd best in his division, 6th(?) in the conference. How can an AFC team justify taking on the risk of the contract he wants when there are 5 conference teams that have a QB advantage over you? Edited February 24 by SCBills 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: The contractual demands from Lamar for the Ravens is compounded by the fact that they’re in the AFC. Lamar in the NFC… He might go into the season as the best QB in that conference for whichever team may trade for him. Lamar in the AFC… 2nd best in his division, 6th(?) in the conference. How can an AFC team justify taking on the risk of the contract he wants when there are 5 conference teams that have a QB advantage over you? These are really good points 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: The contractual demands from Lamar for the Ravens are compounded by the fact that they’re in the AFC. Lamar in the NFC… He might go into the season as the best QB in that conference for whichever team may trade for him. Lamar in the AFC… 2nd best in his division, 6th(?) in the conference. How can an AFC team justify taking on the risk of the contract he wants when there are 5 conference teams that have a QB advantage over you? If this is Lamar’s strategy to get out of the AFC and onto an NFC team, then color me impressed. He’ll get paid and be a top QB in his conference. As for an AFC GM taking the chance on trading for him, there’s always a few who need a QB and know they’ll get fired soon if the team doesn’t take a step forward. If it doesn’t work someone else will have to clean up the mess anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted February 24 Share Posted February 24 Lamar has to be somewhat realistic that no team is going to want to guarantee 5+ years to a QB that spent the ending of the last two years hurt and has a style of play that is dependent on running. This is not an easy situation for the Ravens to be in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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