MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, GolfandBills said: I think they’ll salivate over Campbell. I expect him to be the pick at 27 I think they salivate over Simpson. I think that he their flavor of modern coverage backer. He may seem on the smaller side, but he's the same as Lavonte David, a bit taller. I prefer Campbell, but it's close. I really think Campbell is going to be special. Edited March 20, 2023 by MrEpsYtown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2Moulds Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I think they salivate over Simpson. I think that he their flavor of modern coverage backer. He may seem on the smaller side, but he's the same as Lavonte David, a bit taller. I prefer Campbell, but it's close. I really think Campbell is going to be special. I want the instinctive guy, as the new QB of our defense. Whoever that might be. Tremaine sorely lacked that, and it's a big reason he never made splash plays. Basically, give me another Milano Edited March 20, 2023 by Allen2Moulds 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 6 minutes ago, Allen2Moulds said: I want the instinctive guy, as the new QB of our defense. Whoever that might be. Tremaine sorely lacked that, and it's a big reason he never made splash plays. Basically, give me another Milano That is definitely Campbell imo. Simpson is kind of still learning the in box position, but his instincts are awesome as well, he just isn't as plug-and-play as Campbell imo. Simpson is probably the better playmaker. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Campbell being tutored by Kuechly will hopefully give them some more insight into him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 3 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: That is definitely Campbell imo. Simpson is kind of still learning the in box position, but his instincts are awesome as well, he just isn't as plug-and-play as Campbell imo. Simpson is probably the better playmaker. I have speculated Simpson because he does seem to match up perfectly with their ideal. Jack Campbell is closer to the Platonic ideal of LB, though. I think when God thinks LB, he thinks Jack Campbell. (I'd be happy with either. Drew Sanders is probably in the conversation, too.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 20 minutes ago, Dr. Who said: I have speculated Simpson because he does seem to match up perfectly with their ideal. Jack Campbell is closer to the Platonic ideal of LB, though. I think when God thinks LB, he thinks Jack Campbell. (I'd be happy with either. Drew Sanders is probably in the conversation, too.) Campbell feels like a guy who is going to be drafted by the Steelers or the Patriots or Seahawks or something and be the best linebacker in the league for 10 years and it will annoy me every day. We seem to ignore these types of blue-chippers, but as Doc mentioned, hopefully, the Kuechly connection pushes the envelope. You will have to take him at 27 though. He won't get to our round 2 pick imo. As crazy as it sounds, I could see Ron Rivera and Washington taking him at 16. Ideally, you can trade back a bit and take Campbell or Simpson. Nice little article on Campbell: https://buffalonews.com/sports/bills/iowas-jack-campbell-is-a-middle-linebacker-nfl-scouts-destined-to-love/article_4159d946-b933-11ed-ad5c-2f2d2aa26cab.html Edited March 20, 2023 by MrEpsYtown 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 hour ago, noacls said: Edmunds was never all pro He went 2 pro bowls and most NFL Analysts agree he was snubbed last season. What’s your point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 The more I watch Drew Sanders the more I think he is our guy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 minute ago, Eastport bills said: He went 2 pro bowls and most NFL Analysts agree he was snubbed last season. What’s your point? The general consensus is that the pro bowl is complete BS, see Rodger Saffold. Whereas The All-pro team is legit, the real deal. Tremain has not been an all-pro, though he has gotten votes in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 8 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: The more I watch Drew Sanders the more I think he is our guy Just wondering why? athletically sure. He’s kind of like Tremaine in that he has very little experience playing the Mike and is probably better off playing outside. So I guess he makes sense in that regard….. but I think Dodson would be our starter all season if Sanders is the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 49 minutes ago, Eastport bills said: He went 2 pro bowls and most NFL Analysts agree he was snubbed last season. What’s your point? this is not a knock on Edmunds but going to the pro bowl doesn't mean anything anymore 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 (edited) 41 minutes ago, NewEra said: Just wondering why? athletically sure. He’s kind of like Tremaine in that he has very little experience playing the Mike and is probably better off playing outside. So I guess he makes sense in that regard….. but I think Dodson would be our starter all season if Sanders is the pick. He’s all over the field, the guy can cover and get to the ball carrier. Has enough size to play Mike, 6’4” 235lb. And from my eye test he plays with instinct, something Edmunds lacked bigly. Also we wouldn’t have to use our first pick on him either. Does that work for ya? Also Dodson is a joke in coverage. Edited March 20, 2023 by BrainwashedBillsFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 52 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: The general consensus is that the pro bowl is complete BS, see Rodger Saffold. Whereas The All-pro team is legit, the real deal. Tremain has not been an all-pro, though he has gotten votes in the past. He does have votes but only a handful. Think it was single figures over 5 years. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 26 minutes ago, BrainwashedBillsFan said: He’s all over the field, the guy can cover and get to the ball carrier. Has enough size to play Mike, 6’4” 235lb. And from my eye test he plays with instinct, something Edmunds lacked bigly. Also we wouldn’t have to use our first pick on him either. Does that work for ya? Also Dodson is a joke in coverage. Yeah, thanks. A couple SEC guys that I know and trust disagree with the instincts portion of your assessment, but they could be wrong. I’ve only watched highlights to this point, so I can really comment on him. they think he’s too often caught out of position due to where he thinks the play is going- but he’s wrong. Often fooled by the QB’s eyes and playaction. Mahomes will have a field day working him over in the middle of the field. Things that can be improved upon with experience and good coaching I like the athlete and think he’s ok value in rd 2. He’s like the 2nd rd version of Tremaine minus the wingspan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: Yeah, thanks. A couple SEC guys that I know and trust disagree with the instincts portion of your assessment, but they could be wrong. I’ve only watched highlights to this point, so I can really comment on him. they think he’s too often caught out of position due to where he thinks the play is going- but he’s wrong. Often fooled by the QB’s eyes and playaction. Mahomes will have a field day working him over in the middle of the field. Things that can be improved upon with experience and good coaching I like the athlete and think he’s ok value in rd 2. He’s like the 2nd rd version of Tremaine minus the wingspan. I agree with this. I am not sure what to make of him. I feel a lot more confident in Campbell and Simpson, but I do think Sanders can be really good eventually. Is he coming in and wearing the green dot? No way. Campbell yes. Simpson maybe. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, nucci said: this is not a knock on Edmunds but going to the pro bowl doesn't mean anything anymore I agree with that, but the point was you can’t replace a speedy, talented LB in a 2 LB defense with just anyone. Even the All Pro designations are mostly rep and political. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 1 minute ago, MrEpsYtown said: I agree with this. I am not sure what to make of him. I feel a lot more confident in Campbell and Simpson, but I do think Sanders can be really good eventually. Is he coming in and wearing the green dot? No way. Campbell yes. Simpson maybe. Yeah…and that’s why I think Sanders is the only option rd 2. The other guys will be gone. He might be too 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: Yeah…and that’s why I think Sanders is the only option rd 2. The other guys will be gone. He might be too Yeah I think Sanders makes a lot more sense for a 3-4 team...he would fit awesome in Wink Martindale's defense because he can do so many things. I don't love him as a tampa 2 mike. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrainwashedBillsFan Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 28 minutes ago, NewEra said: Yeah, thanks. A couple SEC guys that I know and trust disagree with the instincts portion of your assessment, but they could be wrong. I’ve only watched highlights to this point, so I can really comment on him. they think he’s too often caught out of position due to where he thinks the play is going- but he’s wrong. Often fooled by the QB’s eyes and playaction. Mahomes will have a field day working him over in the middle of the field. Things that can be improved upon with experience and good coaching I like the athlete and think he’s ok value in rd 2. He’s like the 2nd rd version of Tremaine minus the wingspan. Do you feel that jack campbell is that much better than him and would you take him at 27? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noacls Posted March 20, 2023 Share Posted March 20, 2023 2 hours ago, Eastport bills said: He went 2 pro bowls and most NFL Analysts agree he was snubbed last season. What’s your point? All pro and pro bowl are not the same thing. Look it up. My point is Edmunds is overrated. Addition by subtraction Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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