Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 17 minutes ago, MJS said: Many fans are convinced we morphed into a bottom 5 NFL team. Why? Well, I'm not quite sure. But they are convinced. Many Bills fans think this is as good as we get with the current group. No high draft pick. No cap space. So the biggest changes will have to come from coaching. That’s their belief. The Bills can win the AFC with the right moves in the draft and UFA. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Josh Allen 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 24 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Many Bills fans think this is as good as we get with the current group. No high draft pick. No cap space. So the biggest changes will have to come from coaching. That’s their belief. The Bills can win the AFC with the right moves in the draft and UFA. The Bills have plenty of flexibility in the cap. People don't seem to understand how the cap works. Beane can restructure to create a lot of cap space. He built these contracts to provide that flexibility. It has gotten tighter, but there are plenty of things Beane can do. People were saying last season that Beane wouldn't be able to do anything, and he ended up bringing in Von Miller, re-signing every worthwhile Bills free agent, and completely revamping the interior dline. I think fans just need to settle down and see how the off-season goes. And, you know, see if it is actually true that the Bills can't get better from here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Will the odds change if Beane goes DL/Safety/LB in rounds 1-3 of the draft? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 The overall odds for all NFL teams will change according to trades, losing or getting free agents, the draft, etc. But yeah, the Bills are far from done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 36 minutes ago, MJS said: The Bills have plenty of flexibility in the cap. People don't seem to understand how the cap works. Beane can restructure to create a lot of cap space. He built these contracts to provide that flexibility. It has gotten tighter, but there are plenty of things Beane can do. People were saying last season that Beane wouldn't be able to do anything, and he ended up bringing in Von Miller, re-signing every worthwhile Bills free agent, and completely revamping the interior dline. I think fans just need to settle down and see how the off-season goes. And, you know, see if it is actually true that the Bills can't get better from here. There is definitely flexibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Because Vegas isn't a bunch of panicking babies. You have just become my favorite poster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Many Bills fans think this is as good as we get with the current group. No high draft pick. No cap space. So the biggest changes will have to come from coaching. That’s their belief. The Bills can win the AFC with the right moves in the draft and UFA. I totally agree. There's still plenty of time for this organization to make improvements to the offense. Plenty of time for the defensive coaches to adjust philosophy. Plenty of time for Ken to actually create an offensive identity. Plenty of time for Brandon to have a great off-season. Stop expecting Josh to do it all and do the right thing. We're not done nor is anyone panicking but it would be naive to believe we don't have reason for concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 5 hours ago, ToGoGo said: Because Vegas isn't a bunch of panicking babies. Perhaps not, but they've been known to take a gamble on things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Odds makers aren't predicting winners. They set the line to get equal numbers of people on both sides. The line is set as a function of popular sentiment, not who they think will win. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 4 hours ago, Teddy KGB said: Vegas gave the bengals 6 points too ☠️☠️ This team sucks and will prob fall behind the Jets unless some major OL changes occur and Von Miller can provide a pass rush that all of Beane’s toys couldn’t Vegas is fooled by all the times Josh Allen had to bail this team out by himself. Those clowns in Vegas! If only they could see what YOU could see, in all your misery. Then maybe they'd know something about football. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Fans are too attached to their deep negativity and judgement. It is what defines them as a person. The ego hates to be disturbed. 9 minutes ago, boater said: Odds makers aren't predicting winners. They set the line to get equal numbers of people on both sides. The line is set as a function of popular sentiment, not who they think will win. Yes and that line for the Bills is not a two sided bet like a spread for a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ControllerOfPlanetX Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 A fool and his money are soon parted…. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unforgiven Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 All I know is they better try hard, I'm sick death of Mahomes getting all this recognition, I heard a poll today he was rated 3rd best ? Super bowl QB after Brady/Montana... The only difference between Josh and Mahomes is coaching and the players that Mahomes has around him. Josh has like a poor man's offense, no line, no weapons beyond Diggs. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iinii Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 It’s called a sucker bet. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Unforgiven said: All I know is they better try hard, I'm sick death of Mahomes getting all this recognition, I heard a poll today he was rated 3rd best ? Super bowl QB after Brady/Montana... The only difference between Josh and Mahomes is coaching and the players that Mahomes has around him. Josh has like a poor man's offense, no line, no weapons beyond Diggs. Sad. 3rd best? He has only won once. Aikman won three and Bradshaw won 4. I am not saying they are better QB's then Mahomes. But they have certainly had more success in the Super Bowl then him. Based on championships they would rank higher than him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 They were “favored “ this year. They weren’t even CLOSE against cincy. Vegas odds for next year mean jack shiit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Red King Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 Vegas isn't ranking anyone. They are setting betting lines. In this case they're hoping to fleece people who don't look deep enough into the Bills and free-pass them based on circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 (edited) Agree with Vegas. Money talks. Crybaby fans walk. A healthy Bills roster goes a lot farther than they did this year. Eagles had basically no injuries this year other than Hurts for a couple games that didn't matter. Edited February 10, 2023 by ProcessTruster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaBillsFanSince1973 Posted February 10, 2023 Share Posted February 10, 2023 11 minutes ago, balln said: They were “favored “ this year. They weren’t even CLOSE against cincy. Vegas odds for next year mean jack shiit You feel better now you got that off your chest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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