78thealltimegreat Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 D. Dawkins: 73.5 R. Saffold: 43.7 M. Morse: 61.4 R. Bates: 61.8 S. Brown: 51.4 For reference a solid NFL starter has a 70 grade…a pro bowl player has an 80ish grade…an all pro has a high 80s to low 90s grade..Trent Williams has the highest at 93.7 Josh Allen had over 5000 yards of offense and 42 touchdowns and had a PFF grade of 91.6 the highest of any QB with this line which graded out 26th blocking for him. 3 6 2 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Stick with how bad the OL was - how Beane got duped by Saffold and how he paid/promoted Bates perhaps prematurely. This doesn’t need to always wind up a backhanded compliment (excuse?) for Allen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, Airseven said: Stick with how bad the OL was - how Beane got duped by Saffold and how he paid/promoted Bates perhaps prematurely. This doesn’t need to always wind up a backhanded compliment (excuse?) for Allen. Image if we had a couple of all pro linemen how much Allen would destroy the league. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Any know how the Bengals starters graded last season? We hear so much about how bad they were just curious how ours compares. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Image if we had a couple of all pro linemen how much Allen would destroy the league. Allen with the protection Burrow had with an o-line of backups would be amazing to watch. Edited January 27, 2023 by stevestojan 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) I see some positives in those numbers. It will be very difficult to actually put a worse line together even if Bean tries. He can't really mess this up unless he slides Saffold to LT or something. Edited January 27, 2023 by nedboy7 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, nedboy7 said: I see some positives in those numbers. It will be very difficult to actually put a worse line together even if Bean tries. He can't really mess this up unless he slides Saffold to RT or something. He drafted Cody Ford and traded Wyatt Teller. So it’s possible. 1 2 1 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, stevestojan said: Allen with the protection Burrow had with an o-line of backups would be amazing to watch. Honestly, if we walk away from this draft with less than 2 WR and 3 O-linemen, I will be very disappointed. 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: He drafted Cody Ford and traded Wyatt Teller. So it’s possible. And Hodgins looked great playing for the Giants. Honestly makes me wonder. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Cheney Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Good lord, I knew it was bad but this is brutal. A testament to Allen and the rest of the offense for doing as much as they did in spite of this. 2 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dick_Cheney said: Good lord, I knew it was bad but this is brutal. A testament to Allen and the rest of the offense for doing as much as they did in spite of this. It’s vomit worthy, but also comforting at the same time. This means that we haven’t seen peak Allen yet, which is amazing to think about. Edited January 27, 2023 by IronMaidenBills 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 Roger Saffold shouldn’t be starting in the XFL with that kind of grade 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 24 minutes ago, nedboy7 said: I see some positives in those numbers. It will be very difficult to actually put a worse line together even if Bean tries. He can't really mess this up unless he slides Saffold to LT or something. Beane really hasn't done anything with the oline in 5 drafts. He got Ford (bust), Brown, re-signed Dawkins, and signed Morse. Throw in a bunch of lower echelon guys. That's about it. He has a franchise QB who got hurt this year. I blame Beane for it because he keeps spending premium picks on the dline. 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 32 minutes ago, IronMaidenBills said: Image if we had a couple of all pro linemen how much Allen would destroy the league. Perhaps like Teller? But hey Beane is a guru. At least the drought years we just sucked, now we have hope but are doomed by incompetence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 One of the worst in the league, good job Beane and McDermott. Every bit of this failure is on them. They obviously can't evaluate and draft talent. Look no further than Ford and letting Teller go 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 It will be shocking if Saffold is playing anywhere in the league next season. I doubt Buffalo will be able to switch out all their substandard starters before next season, but they need to have two or three new starters who are better than they guys they replace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 hour ago, Gunsgoodtime said: One of the worst in the league, good job Beane and McDermott. Every bit of this failure is on them. They obviously can't evaluate and draft talent. Look no further than Ford and letting Teller go They also drafted Brown, who hasn’t amounted to much thus far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turk71 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 For the 2nd year in a row, after only two years in the league, the Chiefs' Creed Humphrey is the #1 rated center. You may remember that even though the interior line was a huge need at the time, Beane decided to pass on Humphrey and draft a 2nd consecutive DE Basham. The Chiefs had the next pick and were not so stupid. 3 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, Airseven said: Stick with how bad the OL was - how Beane got duped by Saffold and how he paid/promoted Bates perhaps prematurely. This doesn’t need to always wind up a backhanded compliment (excuse?) for Allen. bates is actually really good at center, and much better at LG than saffold. when bates filled in at center last year for morse, the run game was the best it had been. 43.7 lmfao 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 hours ago, 78thealltimegreat said: D. Dawkins: 73.5 R. Saffold: 43.7 M. Morse: 61.4 R. Bates: 61.8 S. Brown: 51.4 For reference a solid NFL starter has a 70 grade…a pro bowl player has an 80ish grade…an all pro has a high 80s to low 90s grade..Trent Williams has the highest at 93.7 Josh Allen had over 5000 yards of offense and 42 touchdowns and had a PFF grade of 91.6 the highest of any QB with this line which graded out 26th blocking for him. For all those that say "Im not done with Brown yet... he still has a shot" GEE WIZ MAN.. the dude had his shot and FAILED. We we need a starting caliber LG and RT. when that happens the people beside them will go up like morse especially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 The biggest liability on this team two years straight - offensive line play. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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