Bill from NYC Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Head Coach and DC. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 46 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said: Who cares what we pay Payton, Terry cuts the check it doesn't impact salary cap or the team in any manner what so ever. The first round pick is an investment. But spending that pick on him will have a much bigger impact than whatever guy Beane selects. I hear ya. We aren’t cutting the check but the check is an obstacle. As is the draft pick. As is their love for McDermott. As is Beanes love for McDermott. I’m just speaking the reality of the situation. If we make it happen, I’m all for it. I just don’t think it has much of a chance (if any) of happening. I think he’ll end up in Denver making 25M a year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: I hear ya. We aren’t cutting the check but the check is an obstacle. As is the draft pick. As is their love for McDermott. As is Beanes love for McDermott. I’m just speaking the reality of the situation. If we make it happen, I’m all for it. I just don’t think it has much of a chance (if any) of happening. I think he’ll end up in Denver making 25M a year was with you till you said denver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I don’t want to be overly reactive but some adjustments need to be made. Even if the coaching staff comes back the team needs to tilt its resources away from defense and back into the offense. Spend the first four picks of the draft on offense spend some money to add starters to the offensive side of the ball. McD tried to have an all time defensive team with an offense carried by a QB and it didn’t work for various reasons some out of their control others within their control. You need to adapt the team building. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: was with you till you said denver Where do you think he’ll end up? They have more money than anyone and they are desperate. I think they’ll match anyone offer + 5M. Thats my thought process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I think a fairly large portion of the fanbase wants to retain McDermott, simply because the Bills have been a horrible franchise for most of their existence and McDermott is way better than almost all coaches we've ever had. That's not the right mindset for evaluation here. The benchmark is not how he compares to past Bills coaches; the benchmark is how does he compare to the best coaches in the game today. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 Just now, NewEra said: Where do you think he’ll end up? They have more money than anyone and they are desperate. I think they’ll match anyone offer + 5M. Thats my thought process. I think THIS year it is not going to be just about the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I’d love to hear from the 21 peope who voted for no changes. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I think a fairly large portion of the fanbase wants to retain McDermott, simply because the Bills have been a horrible franchise for most of their existence and McDermott is way better than almost all coaches we've ever had. That's not the right mindset for evaluation here. The benchmark is not how he compares to past Bills coaches; the benchmark is how does he compare to the best coaches in the game today. Way better than almost all the coaches we had, BUT the next one will be better!!? No guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, LabattBlue said: I’d love to hear from the 21 peope who voted for no changes. 😂 there is a thread on not making any changes in coaching. they are there. That is the place to argue your points on that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Repulsif Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: I’d love to hear from the 21 peope who voted for no changes. 😂 could be robots profiles parsing the forum for google references links Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 3 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I think a fairly large portion of the fanbase wants to retain McDermott, simply because the Bills have been a horrible franchise for most of their existence and McDermott is way better than almost all coaches we've ever had. That's not the right mindset for evaluation here. The benchmark is not how he compares to past Bills coaches; the benchmark is how does he compare to the best coaches in the game today. Understand your POV. I personally think the GM did a botch job in Allen's 5 year window. That said, I would like to see what a vet OC and DC with different approaches could do with the roster. Most of the key starters will be here (there will be some losses). If a new OC and DC can't get more out of the roster, then it may be time to look at GM and HC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wraith Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Interesting... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Wraith said: Interesting... You have to give the dude time to digest for christ sakes. Last thing anyone wants is a knee jerk reaction out of our HC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nedboy7 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: I’d love to hear from the 21 peope who voted for no changes. 😂 The people that are more reasonable than the ones calling for the GM thru Kicker to be released cause they can't handle booboo emotions? 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, PrimeTime101 said: I think THIS year it is not going to be just about the money So you think he’ll wait til next year? Or would rather take a different team? What other teams do you think he’ll be interested in? Carolina is the only team (with a current vacancy) that makes any sense to me and their biggest draw is that they play is a crap division. if I were him, I think I’d wait it out - unless Buffalo or Dallas comes a knocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, NewEra said: So you think he’ll wait til next year? Or would rather take a different team? What other teams do you think he’ll be interested in? Carolina is the only team (with a current vacancy) that makes any sense to me and their biggest draw is that they play is a crap division. if I were him, I think I’d wait it out - unless Buffalo or Dallas comes a knocking. I think he is going to wait it out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BucketList Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Do not offer a new contract to Frazier. He doesn’t show much emotion and neither does his defense lately. I would say Josh Allen should make the call with respect to Dorsey. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocbillsfan1 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I voted for getting rid of the whole org but I know that will never happen. That said I'm in the camp of getting an offensive minded head coach and there's some out there including our own Frank Reich. There's also Eric Bieniemy, Shane Steichen, Sean Payton, Brian Callahan etc. I think the Dorsey hate is a bit extreme. If we are keeping Mcdermott there is no point in running off Dorsey, for what? To hire another OC who may just leave again after 1 or 2 years? There are legit criticisms of Dorsey but the problem is he and Josh both seem to be in love with throwing the ball downfield and for that system to work you need a better OL and 1 or 2 more WRS. The Bills don't have the personal to do what he currently wants. I don't know if Dorsey will budge on his system or if the org will go out and do what needs to be done to better help him. If anyone is going to get fired it will be Frazier this year and be the fall guy but I don't think Sean has it in him to do that either so I think odds are no one gets fired. If this is the case I give Sean 1 more year with everyone back and it is Superbowl or bust. If Beane won't fire them all after the season then I give him his walking papers. At the end of the day I don't have a strong feeling that Beane is more devoted to the organization then he is to his buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortchaz Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I don’t want anyone fired, just gone with max return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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