BillsFanForever19 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 (edited) Jordan Poyer and Tremaine Edmunds get all the attention as far as our upcoming Free Agents go. But taking a look today, I was a little taken aback at the amount of bodies that we will have to bring back or find replacements for: QB: Case Keenum RB: Devin Singletary Taiwan Jones WR: Jamison Crowder Cole Beasley Jake Kumerow TE: Tommy Sweeney OL: Rodger Saffold David Quessenberry Greg Van Rotten Ike Boettger Bobby Hart Justin Murray DE: Shaq Lawson DT: Jordan Phillips LB: Tremaine Edmunds Tyrel Dodson (Restricted) A.J. Klein Tyler Matakevitch CB: Dane Jackson (Restricted) Cam Lewis (Restricted) S: Jordan Poyer Dean Marlowe Jaquon Johnson P: Sam Martin It's simple to say we let most of them walk for being JAG's or whatever. But for everyone we let walk, we have to get a replacement to fill out our roster. And depending on where you look, we're sitting at either 3.5-8.5 million over the cap. Just like the "let 'em walk" crowd - I've heard we can cut a number of players to create cap space. But then those bodies will also have to be replaced. We also only have 6 draft picks this offseason (1 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th, and 2 5th's), once again picking low at 28 - given our regular season record. The long and short of it is, Brandon Beane is going to have to get REALLY creative this offseason to fill out the roster. I see so many people say "we need improvements (here or there)" and "they can make cap space whenever they want". But it's going to be very difficult to fill out the 53 with improvements and good depth across the board. He's really going to have to hit on all our Draft picks, find some diamonds in the rough, and get lucky on some Undrafted prospects as well. Edited January 24, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Don’t know, it’s very hard to predict. For all we know we’ll have a new GM/coach within the next month. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Jordan Poyer and Tremaine Edmunds get all the attention as far as our upcoming Free Agents go. But taking a look today, I was a little taken aback at the amount of bodies that we will have to bring back or find replacements for: QB: Case Keenum RB: Devin Singletary Taiwan Jones WR: Jamison Crowder Jake Kumerow TE: Tommy Sweeney OL: Rodger Saffold David Quessenberry Greg Van Rotten Ike Boettger Bobby Hart Justin Murray DE: Shaq Lawson DT: Jordan Phillips LB: Tremaine Edmunds Tyrel Dodson A.J. Klein Tyler Matakevitch CB: Dane Jackson Cam Lewis S: Jordan Poyer Dean Marlowe Jaquon Johnson P: Sam Martin It's simple to say we let most of them walk for being JAG's or whatever. But for everyone we let walk, we have to get a replacement to fill out our roster. And depending on where you look, we're sitting at either 3.5-8.5 million over the cap. Just like the "let 'em walk" crowd - I've heard we can cut a number of players to create cap space. But then those bodies will also have to be replaced. We also only have 6 draft picks this offseason (1 1st, 1 2nd, 1 3rd, 1 4th, and 2 5th's), once again picking low at 28 - given our regular season record. The long and short of it is, Brandon Beane is going to have to get REALLY creative this offseason to fill out the roster. I see so many people say "we need improvements (here or there)" and "they can make cap space whenever they want". But it's going to be very difficult to fill out the 53 with improvements and good depth across the board. He's really going to have to hit on all our Draft picks, find some diamonds in the rough, and get lucky on some Undrafted prospects as well. Keep on trading back and and stacking picks. Plus might need to trade a veteran under contract for picks. The draft is super important to find starters on the cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said: Keep on trading back and and stacking picks. Plus might need to trade a veteran under contract for picks. The draft is super important to find starters on the cheap. Hopefully a team willing to jump up at end of the 1st for a QB and we can get a high 2nd and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Seems easy to me. Let Poyer walk. Trade Oliver. Then I’m fine if they re-sign Edmunds. Rest of the guys can be brought back cheap and/or replaced with similar guys in low level FA. Day 1 and Day 2, all three of those picks… WR, OL, OL. Fill in the Defense and a RB on Day 3. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, The Jokeman said: Hopefully a team willing to jump up at end of the 1st for a QB and we can get a high 2nd and more. I mess around on draft simulators and often find I can take 6 picks to 12. This past year that wasn’t advisable but in 2023 that might be the only option. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Off-season situation is those at OBD have a lot more work than most thought they need to address in this off-season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Seems easy to me. Let Poyer walk. Trade Oliver. Then I’m fine if they re-sign Edmunds. Rest of the guys can be brought back cheap and/or replaced with similar guys in low level FA. Day 1 and Day 2, all three of those picks… WR, OL, OL. Fill in the Defense and a RB on Day 3. What's your plan to replace Oliver or are you fine with just rolling with Daquan Jones, Jordan Phillips, and Tim Settle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 That Sam Martin looks like a keeper. Everyone else can go.😂 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 minute ago, BillsFanForever19 said: What's your plan to replace Oliver or are you fine with just rolling with Daquan Jones, Jordan Phillips, and Tim Settle? I’d use Day 3 to fill in gaps on the defense. There may be some weak spots on defense and that’s ok. Chiefs have been coaching around weak spots for two years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 You can’t spend $20m per year on Edmunds when our Offensive Line is this bad and our Defensive Line too for that matter. Milano is the better player anyway. I’d rather over-pay for O-linemen or more playmakers for the offense. Change the defensive scheme if it requires a $20m per year off ball LB that makes no game changing plays. 2 9 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 I wish they give up the special teams specialists roles and the D line rotation. It doesn't work here and honestly it had one good season in Carolina. It costs way too much money. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: Don’t know, it’s very hard to predict. For all we know we’ll have a new GM/coach within the next month. Very possible. After today's embarrassment people are getting fired. 14 minutes ago, Trogdor said: I wish they give up the special teams specialists roles and the D line rotation. It doesn't work here and honestly it had one good season in Carolina. It costs way too much money. Hate the rotation 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Im not even worried about a potential step back on D. They were terrible in 2020 and we did fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 19 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: You can’t spend $20m per year on Edmunds when our Offensive Line is this bad and our Defensive Line too for that matter. Milano is the better player anyway. I’d rather over-pay for O-linemen or more playmakers for the offense. Change the defensive scheme if it requires a $20m per year off ball LB that makes no game changing plays. Any chance Tremaine gets re-signed ended today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Any chance Tremaine gets re-signed ended today. Then that would be the only positive from this ass beating. This roster ain’t good enough to afford a luxury like Edmunds. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 5 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Any chance Tremaine gets re-signed ended today. Edmunds being escorted out of OBD when he asks for 18M AAV 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milanos Milano Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 30 minutes ago, BuffaloRebound said: You can’t spend $20m per year on Edmunds when our Offensive Line is this bad and our Defensive Line too for that matter. Milano is the better player anyway. I’d rather over-pay for O-linemen or more playmakers for the offense. Change the defensive scheme if it requires a $20m per year off ball LB that makes no game changing plays. Yep. Like I’ve said , we are going into a mini rebuild. We have to. The trenches are not good enough. The oline is not were it needs to be, and our WRs are not were they need to be. We are a good team with a few missing pieces, but we have to make a change of direction away from defense for a bit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iccrewman112 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 27 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Very possible. After today's embarrassment people are getting fired. Hate the rotation Special team aces shouldn’t make up more than minimum level contracts in my opinion. Other than long snapper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 54 minutes ago, SCBills said: I’d use Day 3 to fill in gaps on the defense. There may be some weak spots on defense and that’s ok. Chiefs have been coaching around weak spots for two years now. That's one of our big issues though. And lack of talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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