JohnNord Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) If you backtrack over the past few years one failure of Beane and McDermott is drafting so heavily on defense. Since 2020 they’ve tried drafting DE’s highly and aside from Rosseau who has shown to be a good not great starting DE, neither AJ Epinesa or Boogie Basham have shown they are anything better than slightly average. Because it was clear these guys couldn’t get it done, they had to sign Von Miller to a huge contract. Today our high draft picks were simply invisible on the field in a crucial moment against 3 backup OL. With so many resources going to the defense, I feel they neglected key area on offense to support Josh Allen - especially OL and WR. Maybe this is what happens when you have a defensive head coach, but I feel that the Bills have gotten nearly as much as they have invested on defense and they haven’t invested enough on offense. Edited January 23 by JohnNord 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 minutes ago, JohnNord said: If you backtrack over the past few years one failure of Beane and McDermott is drafting so heavily on defense. Since 2020 they’ve tried drafting DE’s highly and aside from Rosseau who has shown to be a good not great starting DE, neither AJ Epinesa or Boogie Basham have shown they are anything better than slightly average. Because it was clear these guys couldn’t get it done, they had to sign Von Miller to a huge contract. Today our high draft picks were simply invisible on the field in a crucial moment against 3 backup OL. With so many resources going to the defense, I feel they neglected key area on offense to support Josh Allen - especially OL and WR. Maybe this is what happens when you have a defensive head coach, but I feel that the Bills have gotten nearly as much as they have invested on defense and they haven’t invested enough on offense. Definitely not good return on investment. You would think a defensive coach would take offensive players and trust his system on defense. A defensive coach that needs 1st round picks all over his defense doesn't have a good system, not to mention Milano outplays all the first round picks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streetkings01 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 We knew this already …..we’re reminded of this 2-3 times a day with new threads pointing it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Beane has not drafted a Pro Bowler in 4 years 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bray Wyatt Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 I think this last years draft was good but the Rousseau draft doesn’t look good at all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Bray Wyatt said: I think this last years draft was good but the Rousseau draft doesn’t look good at all You know I agree but it's hard to trust their talent evaluation and development skills also when our players get plucked / traded into leading roles on other teams, in places we have needs. So is it coaching too? Where is the development. Why would they draft epenesa and basically ask him to change his whole playstyle and body camp and then not produce. (Wasting a year in the process) Honestly the Ed Oliver pick hurts a lot. Not because he's an ok starter, but because he was a top ten pick. That's a very underwhelming result. Why are guys not contributing or showing their best production until the last year of their rookie deal. I feel like other teams get more put of them sooner. Edited January 23 by Sharky7337 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 25 minutes ago, Sharky7337 said: You know I agree but it's hard to trust their talent evaluation and development skills also when our players get plucked / traded into leading roles on other teams, in places we have needs. So is it coaching too? Where is the development. Why would they draft epenesa and basically ask him to change his whole playstyle and body camp and then not produce. (Wasting a year in the process) Honestly the Ed Oliver pick hurts a lot. Not because he's an ok starter, but because he was a top ten pick. That's a very underwhelming result. Why are guys not contributing or showing their best production until the last year of their rookie deal. I feel like other teams get more put of them sooner. Who on this list is playing a leading role on their team outside of Isaiah Hodgins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 33 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Beane has not drafted a Pro Bowler in 4 years Damn. That's pretty telling. You'd think you could accidentally draft a pro bowler over 4 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arcane Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2020 was an underrated inflection point in franchise history. Things felt so unbelievably optimistic - after 20 years of never having an actually-good team with real championship hopes, we were suddenly a 500 point scoring 13-3 team with a franchise QB that played the season at age 24. We let that offense deteriorate slowly while pretending we could build a defense that could stop Mahomes in the playoffs, which we failed at, and now the offense is a mess. We failed the next stage of the 'ascension', which probably could have become record-breaking/dynastic had we turned every dial just right. We turned the wrong dials But things change so fast in the NFL, look at where Cinci's offense and defense were just a couple of years ago. We have the hardest piece in place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 10 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Who on this list is playing a leading role on their team outside of Isaiah Hodgins? Wyatt teller 11 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Who on this list is playing a leading role on their team outside of Isaiah Hodgins? But where is the development ? That is also the point. Why haven't draft picks been more productive ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Josh Allen is so good that he can cover up a lot of the flaws this team has. The drafting has really been mediocre and quite a few of the free agent signings over the years have been quite bad. Beane says all the right things but he needs to actually find good players in the draft given our cap constraints. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 Hard to get a Pro Bowler when your rookie press man corner can’t find the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billl Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 2 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Hard to get a Pro Bowler when your rookie press man corner can’t find the field. Why doesn’t he play more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) Beane needs to make it a point to draft the nastiest meanest guy available in every round. The culture turnaround is complete. No more gentle giants. Every remaining team has a couple guys that are total a**h***s and act like it on the field. We don't have anyone like that other than Allen. Edited January 23 by HappyDays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (edited) 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Beane needs to make it a point to draft the nastiest meanest guy available in every round. The culture turnaround is complete. No more gentle giants. Every remaining team has a couple guys that are total a**h***s and act like it on the field. We don't have anyone like that other than Allen. Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips Edited January 23 by Special K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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