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Does McDermott not know math? He is u questionably the worst situational football coach in the league. Down 17 on 4th and 6 with however many minutes left he goes for a low probability conversation. Should have taken the points made it a 2 score game. With the weather conditions you go for the onside kick and have a much higher chance of recovering. They should hire a coach whose only duty is to decide whether to challenge or not, take timeouts and decide on 4th down conversions vs points. Then McDermott can just stand on the sideline and clap. He clearly doesn’t light a fire under any coordinator it’s sickening… rant over. ✌️ 

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I think the biggest mistake of the game was not taking the opening kickoff before field conditions worsened.   Had the Bills got the ball and marched down the field first and scored it might have boosted the morale of the team enough to make the game more competitive.

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1 minute ago, Billsfan1972 said:

And Gabe dropped another one.  But yes get the first down, like Burrow did all game.  YAC....


Gabe gets targeted a lot on low percentage throws. He has a lower catch percentage because of it. 
 

That should have been a catch. But he also deserves some more slack than he gets. 

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Absolutely get the points, when you need the points to mathematically win the game in a situation. He didn’t. Who’s adding up all his mistakes to President to brass for season ending evaluation? Please don’t tell me they just let the HC, GM propagandize their performances to the owners..?

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50 seconds left before half and we don't use a single time out, if we could of scored and made it 17-10 17-14 before half we could of maybe done something. Just at a loss, not our day sucks. Lots of things always seem wrong after a loss. Always seem to struggle in the elements. 

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12 minutes ago, Lost said:

I think the biggest mistake of the game was not taking the opening kickoff before field conditions worsened.   Had the Bills got the ball and marched down the field first and scored it might have boosted the morale of the team enough to make the game more competitive.

Honestly, these 2 teams were so mismatched today, I don't think something like that would have altered the outcome of the game.  

2 minutes ago, Mango said:


Gabe gets targeted a lot on low percentage throws. He has a lower catch percentage because of it. 
 

That should have been a catch. But he also deserves some more slack than he gets. 

He also just flat out drops balls that hit him in the hands.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Lost said:

I think the biggest mistake of the game was not taking the opening kickoff before field conditions worsened.   Had the Bills got the ball and marched down the field first and scored it might have boosted the morale of the team enough to make the game more competitive.

I don’t fully blame McD, because deferring the coin toss is the call in today’s analytics driven league. I do agree that it wouldn’t have been a bad move. There’s times when offensive driven teams should take the ball first. Gaining momentum with a first drive score can be huge in these games, but it doesn’t seem to be valued. 

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I would’ve gone for it end of 2nd quarter instead of punting it away. We lost all momentum. It would’ve been a gamble for sure - but we needed to score points this game bc we weren’t stopping Cincy on defense. 
 

Not putting up any points to make it a one score game at half really killed any possible momentum imo. 

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13 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said:

Also, the 3rd and 2 and we're going for the long bomb!?!?!! Didn't we learn ANYTHING from last weeks game??????


We talk about learning from our mistakes a lot for a team that doesn’t ever seem to change anything throughout the year. 

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The Bills entire game drive results

 

1st half: Punt, Punt, TD, Punt. 
2nd half: FG, Punt, Downs, Pick.

 

drive 1 Punt (pass 10’ beyond Diggs)

drive 2 Punt (pass to Singletary short right)

drive 3 TD (Allen rush TD) 

drive 4 Punt (pass 15’ over Diggs sideline)

drive 5  FG (pass to Knox off target) 

drive 6 Punt (pass to Davis drop)

drive 7 Downs (pass to Davis in endzone)

drive 8 Pick (deep pass to Beas picked) 

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26 minutes ago, Houston's #1 Bills Fan said:

Also, the 3rd and 2 and we're going for the long bomb!?!?!! Didn't we learn ANYTHING from last weeks game??????

 

That our receivers drop the ball too much when Allen hits them in the hands perfectly?

 

Perfect throw, it needed to be caught.

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9 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said:

The Bills entire game drive results

 

1st half: Punt, Punt, TD, Punt. 
2nd half: FG, Punt, Downs, Pick.

 

drive 1 Punt (pass 10’ beyond Diggs)

drive 2 Punt (pass to Singletary short right)

drive 3 TD (Allen rush TD) 

drive 4 Punt (pass 15’ over Diggs sideline)

drive 5  FG (pass to Knox off target) 

drive 6 Punt (pass to Davis drop)

drive 7 Punt (pass to Davis in endzone)

drive 8 Pick (deep pass to Beas picked) 

The antithesis of last year's perfect game

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27 minutes ago, Jamone said:

Does McDermott not know math? He is u questionably the worst situational football coach in the league. Down 17 on 4th and 6 with however many minutes left he goes for a low probability conversation. Should have taken the points made it a 2 score game. With the weather conditions you go for the onside kick and have a much higher chance of recovering. They should hire a coach whose only duty is to decide whether to challenge or not, take timeouts and decide on 4th down conversions vs points. Then McDermott can just stand on the sideline and clap. He clearly doesn’t light a fire under any coordinator it’s sickening… rant over. ✌️ 

 

The Bengals at that point in the game had possessed the ball 7 times and the Bills had forced exactly one punt.  On the other possessions they had scored 3 touchdowns, 2 field goals and one Hail Mary to end the half.  The simple fact is the only thing that was going to make a possible difference at that point in the game was scoring a touchdown.  McD knew his defense had not been able to stop Cincy all day and they probably weren't going to magically come up with a solution.

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I think when he punted on 4th and 2 down 24-10 before the Bengals killed clock and got a fg was when it was over. I’d take JA on 4th and 2 vs this D to get a three and out. Who cares at that point if they score another TD. Game was essentially over by not going for it. 

1 hour ago, Wyobills89 said:

50 seconds left before half and we don't use a single time out, if we could of scored and made it 17-10 17-14 before half we could of maybe done something. Just at a loss, not our day sucks. Lots of things always seem wrong after a loss. Always seem to struggle in the elements. 

Yes a draw and use TO’s. But with motor only as Cook seemed to be on skates… 

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