ArtVandalay Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I'll be fully supportive of getting value at the end of the first with a great talent at a position that is generally downgraded in the draft like G, C, S, LB.. all positions of need as well (except C unless Morse is cut). We took Cook last year he looks great, no need to draft RB. Knox monster contract means don't bother with TE. I would also be a fan of trading down or trading for a future 1st given the cap situation next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 10:28 AM, CapeBreton said: When Pittsburgh drafts a WR in the second round, they're a guaranteed stud. When the Bills draft a WR in the second round, they get Zay Jones lol. The team is probably still traumatized from that. 82 rec over 800 yds and 5 tds this regular season. We could have used that. It just didn’t work out for him here. Not a bad pick overall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Solomon Grundy said: Only because of the 5 year shelf life most RBs are destined to play. I still think there's an outside chance CMC gets there. Especially if he has a SB win on his resume They have such short shelf lives now because the best RB's of today aren't the elite football players that used to man the position. They are the Kenny Davis types not the Thurman Thomas types. The elite RB talents of yesteryear now play defense or are receivers or QB's..........because that's where the money is. The guys who play RB now usually don't have the size or the speed to play elsewhere. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 1/20/2023 at 7:50 PM, BADOLBILZ said: So what do you do with the RB that you used a 2nd round pick on and is averaging 5.7 yards per carry? Give them the same split Cook has with Singletary? Take the ball out of the hands of your QB to average about 2-3 yards less per play than throwing it at a 7.6 yards per attempt clip? For guys like Jeremiah it's just a thoughtless pick. The Bills have a franchise QB who has taken a beating the past two seasons but the answer isn't to run the ball more. It's block better and give him more receivers who win matchups so he can go back to being that guy he was in 2020 who was making huge plays in the passing game while also completing nearly 70% of his passes and looked like he had 15 elite years in front of him. the issue is no good WRs are projected to be available at the end of round 1. Robinson is the likely BPA, and a different back than Cook. Drafting for need is why we have Basham over Humphrey, which oddly now is a need. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Was watching Landon Dickerson the guard for the Eagles playing today. Give me one of those please 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 O/U set @ 110 on total pages prior to draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 11 hours ago, Dopey said: 82 rec over 800 yds and 5 tds this regular season. We could have used that. It just didn’t work out for him here. Not a bad pick overall. Those sound like Gabe Davis numbers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Those sound like Gabe Davis numbers Zay: 68% catch rate Gabe: 51% catch rate Gabe needs to tighten up Edited January 22, 2023 by Dopey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 It would be insanely frustrating if a team as good as ours is spent a 4th valuable draft pick on a RB. We’ve already poured way too many assets into the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 6 hours ago, John from Riverside said: Was watching Landon Dickerson the guard for the Eagles playing today. Give me one of those please I agree but the draft this year doesn't line up at pick 30-32 with a guy like that. The only few late 1st round types are slow power blocking scheme types. Now, I think there is a good handful of free agent interior guys....does Beane restructure a few contracts and free up some cash? Might have to do it that way this time around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 I 12 minutes ago, DCOrange said: It would be insanely frustrating if a team as good as ours is spent a 4th valuable draft pick on a RB. We’ve already poured way too many assets into the position. But we’re about to lose a running back, possibly in Singletary I love cook I don’t mind Hines. It bothers me a little bit that cook has never been a full-time back and is a little bit slight. I would feel much better if he gained 10 pounds in the off-season but I also don’t know how that would affect his speed If we lose motor would not be shocked if we drafted a running back 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 Just now, John from Riverside said: I But we’re about to lose a running back, possibly in Singletary I love cook I don’t mind Hines. It bothers me a little bit that cook has never been a full-time back and is a little bit slight. I would feel much better if he gained 10 pounds in the off-season but I also don’t know how that would affect his speed If we lose motor would not be shocked if we drafted a running back If we lose Motor, we should consider using a 5th-7th round pick on a RB or sign someone for the minimum. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 22 minutes ago, Dopey said: Zay: 68% catch rate Gabe: 51% catch rate Gabe needs to tighten up I was speaking more to the yards and touchdowns Just now, DCOrange said: If we lose Motor, we should consider using a 5th-7th round pick on a RB or sign someone for the minimum. I personally liked Duke Johnson, who got no burn with us this year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 1 hour ago, DCOrange said: If we lose Motor, we should consider using a 5th-7th round pick on a RB or sign someone for the minimum. Yeah... Somebody like Zach "business decision" Moss. Give me a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Yeah... Somebody like Zach "business decision" Moss. Give me a break Yes I would definitely rather have Moss than Bijan considering the opportunity cost. The only 1st round picks that would definitely upset me more than Bijan would be a different RB, QB, kicker, punter, kick returner, or long snapper. Edited January 22, 2023 by DCOrange 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 22 hours ago, RyanC883 said: the issue is no good WRs are projected to be available at the end of round 1. Robinson is the likely BPA, and a different back than Cook. Drafting for need is why we have Basham over Humphrey, which oddly now is a need. I wholeheartedly agree that drafting for need is often disastrous. But BPA in round 1 should be about premium positions only. RB is not one of those. Guard isn't either. Which is why it might be required of Beane to think out of the box about how to handle that asset. Trade up? Trade back? Trade it for a proven player? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 1 hour ago, BADOLBILZ said: I wholeheartedly agree that drafting for need is often disastrous. But BPA in round 1 should be about premium positions only. RB is not one of those. Guard isn't either. Which is why it might be required of Beane to think out of the box about how to handle that asset. Trade up? Trade back? Trade it for a proven player? The entire football world can see the Buffalo Bills dont have a runner so these guys keep getting mocked to the Bills in the first round. I agree you have legit point on the economics. I agree they could have found a solution on another teams practice squad. Your arguments come with the premise they know how to navigate it, and the frustration with the fans is they can see the need so why cant the Bills brass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 9 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: I wholeheartedly agree that drafting for need is often disastrous. But BPA in round 1 should be about premium positions only. RB is not one of those. Guard isn't either. Which is why it might be required of Beane to think out of the box about how to handle that asset. Trade up? Trade back? Trade it for a proven player? I generally agree that RB isn’t, but if he is a Henry/Barkey/McCaffery talent I’d take him. Otherwise trade back, or better, trade up for a stud OT or WR (our bigger needs). We have a bad draft slot currently it looks like (assuming Bean actually picks the right player) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Need interior O linemen and WR. RB is a luxury they can not afford. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1onemangang7 Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 2 minutes ago, Nitro said: Need interior O linemen and WR. RB is a luxury they can not afford. Yeah, the qb can handle the running duties again. We can draft another midget stick figure pass catching rb later rounds . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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