SoCal Deek Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: Lovie never played in the NFL. You mean when he coached the Bears? It's better than last year. Probably not as good as the 2021 class, but then those guys have hardly been a roaring success thus far beyond Lawrence figuring it out. I trust your analysis far more than mine…but…are there seven guys coming off the board in the first nine picks? I’m guessing not. And that means a whole bunch of those teams are heading into 2023 with essentially no shot at any real improvement. As we learned, some flashy young CB isn’t going to get you where you want to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 20 minutes ago, SoCal Deek said: I trust your analysis far more than mine…but…are there seven guys coming off the board in the first nine picks? I’m guessing not. And that means a whole bunch of those teams are heading into 2023 with essentially no shot at any real improvement. As we learned, some flashy young CB isn’t going to get you where you want to go. If there's a CB as good as Sauce Gardner available, the Bills should do what they need to, to get him. For any other CB, no. Sauce Gardner is going to be a pain in the butt for the Bills for a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 minute ago, Utah John said: If there's a CB as good as Sauce Gardner available, the Bills should do what they need to, to get him. For any other CB, no. Sauce Gardner is going to be a pain in the butt for the Bills for a decade. Thanks…but my comment was about those teams that desperately need a QB. As we witnessed for almost two decades, until you get a decent QB…you are doomed. And all those non-QBs we drafted through those years came and went through Orchard Park with little to no real impact, only to eventually move on to other contenders by the time their rookie contract had expired. I pity the fan base of those QB needy teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 4 hours ago, The Jokeman said: You forgot about the Jets. Got a Wilson on the list. Definitely getting the heave-ho. 3 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: Although we weren’t shown anything about it on Hard Knocks, I had heard that Kingsbury was getting very frustrated with Murray. On top of the apparent issue with doing prep work, he supposedly tends to ad lib and not run plays the way they were designed. Sounds like he kind of wings it like Favre used to. Of course, the way the Arizona season went, I wouldn’t be surprised if Kingsbury was the one to go. Kingsbury May very well be let go. Believe Murray just resigned, cap hit would be prohibitive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 6 hours ago, davefan66 said: Will be interesting what current QB’s get in the mix. Does Rodgers stay? Mitch? Did Tannehill play his way out of Tennessee? If Mr. Irrelevant takes the niners to the dance, what happens with those 3? Brady watch, part..who even knows. Is Mac on a short leash? Minshew had his chance to shine, wasn’t great. If McVay stays, does he keep Baker. What about Stafford? Do the Cards take a huge hit and get rid of Kyler? Ditto Broncos. Where does Derek Carr end up? Zach Wilson? Did Heinicke play his way out of Washington? What happens with Lamar and his contract? Going team by team, didn’t realize how many starters/decent backups could be switching teams next year. I’m sure some will stay, but there will definitely be movement. Do teams go with known entities, or draft and hope their guy is the next great QB? Will be an interesting off-season. Also, the the Bills re-sign Case? And no way the Rams stick with Baker after what they invested in Stafford. Edited January 9, 2023 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, SoCal Deek said: I trust your analysis far more than mine…but…are there seven guys coming off the board in the first nine picks? I’m guessing not. And that means a whole bunch of those teams are heading into 2023 with essentially no shot at any real improvement. As we learned, some flashy young CB isn’t going to get you where you want to go. Seven QBs? No way. I think 3 will likely go top 10 - Bryce Young, CJ Stroud and Will Levis. The way I see the top 10 as of right now: 1. Chicago - either takes Will Anderson or trades back. They are going to ride with Fields I think. 2. Houston - Quarterback 3. Arizona - hard to say as I suspect a house clearing is coming but right now I'd say no QB 4. Indy - Quarterback 5. Seattle - lean towards them waiting until round 2 and taking more of a developmental guy and sticking with Geno for now 6. Detroit - lean towards no Quarterback 7. Las Vegas - I think they will go for a vet QB - either Brady or Jimmy G to run McDaniels scheme 8. Atlanta - Quarterback 9. Carolina - Quarterback 10. Philly - they'd love to go defensive line I think it will come down to Houston, Indy, and one of the two NFC South teams as the ultimate QB pickers. Edited January 9, 2023 by GunnerBill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AuntieEm Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 1 hour ago, Utah John said: If there's a CB as good as Sauce Gardner available, the Bills should do what they need to, to get him. For any other CB, no. Sauce Gardner is going to be a pain in the butt for the Bills for a decade. Hoping sauce does well but that Jets mess up not pay him or just hope he hates the mj area he's stuck in and bolts to Bills as a fa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
78thealltimegreat Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) If Goff has figured it out Detroit and Minny should be fighting it out for the division the next few years. The team I’m watching is the Seahawks at 5 they are already a playoff team with Geno. I could see them taking a flyer on the Anderson kid out of Florida seeing as he has a similar skillset to Russell and if they hit are set to contend for years. As for the Bills get Josh Allen another receiver already Davis and Mackenzie are too unreliable. The defense has the second most money in the league tied into it I don’t want this team turning into the Aaron Rogers Green Bay Packers and they keep neglecting the WR position. Sean and Leslie will just have to deal with a second or third round defensive prospect as it’s time to go O. Edited January 9, 2023 by 78thealltimegreat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 17 minutes ago, 78thealltimegreat said: If Goff has figured it out Detroit and Minny should be fighting it out for the division the next few years. The team I’m watching is the Seahawks at 5 they are already a playoff team with Geno. I could see them taking a flyer on the Anderson kid out of Florida seeing as he has a similar skillset to Russell and if they hit are set to contend for years. As for the Bills get Josh Allen another receiver already Davis and Mackenzie are too unreliable. The defense has the second most money in the league tied into it I don’t want this team turning into the Aaron Rogers Green Bay Packers and they keep neglecting the WR position. Sean and Leslie will just have to deal with a second or third round defensive prospect as it’s time to go O. Outside of Safety, I’m right there with you. Address the OL and WR. We need another playmaker in the receiving core. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 8 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: So, did Lovie Smith know he was getting canned so getting a win to lose the 1st pick was a FU to ownership? my thought as well 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 Fix title…only 16 teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted January 9, 2023 Share Posted January 9, 2023 I normally think Chicago needs to go QB, as fields is not the answer. however, seems like the top qbs of this draft are very similar, scramble first guys. maybe to lesser degree than fields, but feels redundant to bring in a qb thats not a Grade A level passer. will def make an interesting scenario for #1 overall pick this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 9, 2023 Author Share Posted January 9, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, mannc said: Fix title…only 16 teams. ?? Yeah there are only 16 teams with the first 18 picks, but I think everyone knows what I meant. Plus, there were 18 distinct teams that the first 18 picks were ordered upon, 4 of which traded their right to those picks. Edited January 9, 2023 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 17, 2023 Author Share Posted January 17, 2023 The draft order has now been updated as Super Wildcard Weekend has finished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 On 1/8/2023 at 11:40 PM, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Detroit is going to be a beast for the next 10 years. I’d ride with Goff I think. Follow the Kyle Shanahan model and win with defense and a balanced offense that doesn’t ask the QB to be super man. Ben Johnson is a great listen. Their coaching staff has so much energy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 17, 2023 Share Posted January 17, 2023 My eyes just go straight to that forfeited Miami pic and a smile on my face 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 23, 2023 Author Share Posted January 23, 2023 The original post has been updated to the first 28 picks after the completion of this weekend's divisional round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 Purgatory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted January 30, 2023 Author Share Posted January 30, 2023 The draft order has now been updated after the completion of Championship Sunday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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