LABILLBACKER Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Every time we play someone we get their best effort. Almost flawless performance by qbs that normally would be considered mediocre or worse. Injuries have devastated this team, yet by some miracle we're still 8-3. More players sick, more players going down. I don't know if the SB is in our stars this season but I sure wish a little luck would come our way. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 36 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: Or, as per regression to the mean, we are due. yeah take our bad luck lumps now, get some lucky bounces later or, yeah man, we're cursed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2003Contenders Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Turnovers are always a key stat in wins/losses, but I bet it is even more so for a team like the Bills. The dropped INTs and unrecovered fumbles really are noteworthy, especially for a bend-but-don't break defense like the Bills'. The defense is built to force the opponent to drive the distance of the field, requiring more plays to hit pay-dirt -- and, consequently, more opportunities for something bad (for the offense) to happen. When the defense fails to cash in on turnover opportunities, it can lead to a long day. Probably the most glaring non-turnover that strikes me, was in the Jets game. Thanks to a successful fake punt, the Jets held the ball for about 9 minutes before Miller got the strip sack on Wilson -- creating a fumble that WAS recovered by the Bills. Alas, Josh immediately throws an interception that puts the Jets right back into scoring range. (Despite all of the red zone INTs, this to me was Josh's most egregious turnover... but I will save that for another discussion!) Anyway, on the very next play, the Jets run a toss sweep and Garrett Wilson fumbles the ball. He doesn't just fumble the ball, he sends it flying 10+ yards downfield -- yet somehow with multiple Bills defenders in the proximity, Wilson is able to recover the ball himself. We all know what happened next. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Turk said: This is pretty crazy What? You starting another thread? Never! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Rather surprised by the FG stat. Seems to me we get a fair amount of FGs missed against us (not excessive, but when almost 90% of kicks are made, it doesn't take much). One thing we have going for us WRT dropped INTs, is that Allen often throws w/ a higher than average velocity, making it harder to catch, particularly when you're not used to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Not surprised by this. We're exactly two plays from being 10-1, and people are starting threads about whether McDermott needs to go SMH. 28 minutes ago, dorquemada said: yeah take our bad luck lumps now, get some lucky bounces later or, yeah man, we're cursed Well, regression to the mean is actually a thing. We were incredibly lucky in 2020 and 2021 in terms of injuries, to the point that people were crediting our practice facilities and staff as some kind of secret sauce. While our facilities and training staff may be outstanding, we're learning now that they can't prevent on-field injuries. Sometimes things like this just happen. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reddogblitz Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 2 hours ago, DrDawkinstein said: the old saying goes "it's better to be lucky than to be good" That's how it goes, but its a dumb saying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Must be McD's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Big Turk said: This is pretty crazy...Bills are 2nd worst only to CAR in terms of "unluckiest" teams. This covers opponent dropped INT's, opponent dropped passes, opponent FG/XP attempts and fumble recoveries(both teams). Bills are BY FAR the worst at "fumble luck". Bills are 3rd worst in terms of FG/XP attempts Bills tied for 5th worst in terms of opponent dropped passes(ie, opponents have fewer drops vs. us than they do against other teams) The only thing they are "good" with is dropped INTs by opponents, although that is basically neutral at +.01 ,ranking 12th. This all adds up to a total of -1.65 added net win probability due to "luck", second worst only to the Panthers at -1.68. I'm F'ing Irish. I nearly died 4x due to cancer (Which had ZERO familial history). I've literally never won a single bet I've placed... These are #FACTS When people tell me I wear a tinfoil hat, I show them my scars. Thankful to see some math behind the inanity... I know what I've lived through... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 Try to say "fumble luck" five times fast. I can't. At least not in mixed company. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
todd Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 44 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: I'm F'ing Irish. I nearly died 4x due to cancer (Which had ZERO familial history). I've literally never won a single bet I've placed... These are #FACTS When people tell me I wear a tinfoil hat, I show them my scars. Thankful to see some math behind the inanity... I know what I've lived through... You & me both, brother. I got a cancer called chordoma so rare only 300 people get it in the US a year. Not genetic. Just unlucky. I have wicked, nasty scars on my ass you wouldn't believe. Unlucky. My ass modeling career is over. I got side effects from radiation that only 4% of people who get my kind of radiation get. Unlucky. I never win anything in games of chance or luck. I run a fantasy football league (which as we all know is more luck than skill) and it took me 19 years to win it. Unlucky. I bring bad weather on most trips I take. I've been to the Grand Canyon but have never seen it. Freak snow storm - whiteout - couldn't see the canyon despite standing on the edge of it. Went to Cabo San Lucas and rode ATVs. It rained. I asked the guide how often it rains. He said 3 or 4 times a year. Golf trips - RAIN. Golf trip in Orlando, Fla - Frost delays and cold. Yeah, I'm the king of bad luck. Bad luck is a thing. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 So, per the laws of probability - we're due. Hopefully it will tilt back our way come playoff time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted November 29, 2022 Share Posted November 29, 2022 8 minutes ago, todd said: You & me both, brother. I got a cancer called chordoma so rare only 300 people get it in the US a year. Not genetic. Just unlucky. I have wicked, nasty scars on my ass you wouldn't believe. Unlucky. My ass modeling career is over. I got side effects from radiation that only 4% of people who get my kind of radiation get. Unlucky. I never win anything in games of chance or luck. I run a fantasy football league (which as we all know is more luck than skill) and it took me 19 years to win it. Unlucky. I bring bad weather on most trips I take. I've been to the Grand Canyon but have never seen it. Freak snow storm - whiteout - couldn't see the canyon despite standing on the edge of it. Went to Cabo San Lucas and rode ATVs. It rained. I asked the guide how often it rains. He said 3 or 4 times a year. Golf trips - RAIN. Golf trip in Orlando, Fla - Frost delays and cold. Yeah, I'm the king of bad luck. Bad luck is a thing. Let's "Proclaim" to be Dolphin fans... Maybe we can sink their boat. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
27yanks Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 What in the name of Bills Mafia is Fumble Luck!!! Not that's funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StHustle Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 We have gotta be top 5 in most contested catches against 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Virgil said: Yeah, I didn’t need statistics to prove this. The only surprising thing is that another team is worse. I’m hoping to enjoy the ride back to the mean! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 36 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: Let's "Proclaim" to be Dolphin fans... Maybe we can sink their boat. I want in with you guys. Very rare cancer as a kid and still dealing with the side and late term effects of chemo and radiation. I too have never won in a game of chance - which at least kept me from developing a gambling habit. Had a dream backpacking trip planned to Glacier a year in advance and the day before my backcountry reservation my car broke down in Billings, Montana. Had to stay in a KOA for a week instead while the mechanic waited for parts. My wife left me for a woman, but other than that I can't remember another instance of "good luck" during my 40+ years on Earth. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, todd said: Try to say "fumble luck" five times fast. I can't. At least not in mixed company. I tried to say it once and ended up with a Steve Miller Band earworm that's driving me mad and making me crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Boatdrinks said: They’ve been pretty fortunate the last couple seasons and failed to capitalize on it. They may have their best roster of the 3 years now, but are not having the good fortune. A lot of things have to go right to have a chance at a Super Bowl and the Bills have an uphill climb ahead. Ya but replace Bills with any other non-bottom-dweller team and that is still true. They have been fortunate the last couple years with injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 I don’t need stats to confirm the story of our collective football life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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