JohnNord Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I saw people clamoring for Frank Reich on Twitter the other day and it made me think of this question. From what I’ve read Reich is happy to take a break from the NFL and spend time with his family (while collecting Irsay’s money). His sights are set on choosing his job next season - whether it’s as head coach or OC. So obviously this is all hypothetical, but a fun topic nonetheless… If it was up to you, would you trade Ken Dorsey for Frank Reich? On paper it seems like a slam dunk but there are a few things to consider: We’re only 9 games into the Dorsey tenure as OC and I don’t think there’s been enough time to completely assess his job. He’s had some good moments and bad but he also hasn’t been a complete train wreck that you’d midseason. Keep in mind he was Daboll’s first choice to call plays, so there’s a chance that he could be a very good OC - we just don’t know yet. The human dynamic - remember Dorsey was Josh’s first choice to succeed Daboll. Would replacing Dorsey, somewhat prematurely, piss off the most important player on the team? Reich’s offense in Indianapolis - FR has a reputation as a good offensive mind based largely on his work in Philadelphia. But his offenses in Indianapolis were often inconsistent. Of course, there are all kinds of reasons for that (QB) but his teams typically had lots of highs and lows in Indy. The dynamic of Reich returning to Buffalo - Reich is among one of the most memorable and well-loved players in team history . The Pegulas and Sean McDermott always spoke highly of him. This is a move that fans will definitely get excited about. So if you had to make the call today, what would you do? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I am the egg man Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) No. That would be a total panic in the street move. Edited November 15, 2022 by I am the egg man 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I don't care if he's beloved by Buffalo or not. He's a middle of the pack coach, something we already have. If we bring someone else in, they better have a proven pedigree of winning Super Bowls. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 No. Time to draft OL. 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I’m 50/50 at this point. Really not liking what I’ve seen from Dorsey the past 3 weeks. We would have 2 more wins with a competent coordinator 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dancing_joker Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I’m far more interested in Sean Payton as HC than Frank Reich as OC 3 1 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 No, but it's an interesting question. Gotta let Dorsey grow. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Just now, dancing_joker said: I’m far more interested in Sean Payton as HC than Frank Reich as OC No thank you 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) No. Reich is a good coach, but his all time average offense is 15th in yards and 11th in points. The guy everyone wants to replace is currently 1st in yards and 2nd in points. Nostalgia and hysteria may support the action to remove Dorsey for Reich. Neither, Logic or statistics back up the move. 3 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: No. Time to draft OL. Andrew Vorhees OG USC in the 1st. Edited November 15, 2022 by thenorthremembers 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Frank would run a different offense. We'd never adjust in time, the season would be lost. This is an off season move, if it gets made at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Only if he would tell Josh not to make bad throws and decisions in the red zone. And a good coach would have reminded him not to fumble the snap. 1 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) If bringing him in at all this year, only in a consulting type role. Dorsey is the OC of the number one ranked Offense by yards in the league. Just have to figure out how to get Josh out of this turnover slump. Edited November 15, 2022 by strive_for_five_guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 Mid season- stupid move. offseason- we’ll see. Just like the stupid Payton thread 4 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) I voted no, but it's tempting.. and it's not all because it seems like Dorsey is struggling .. I do think he'll figure it out, but Reich likely gives us stability at OC for a few years, at least. Dorsey, if/when, he gets his act together, immediately becomes a HC candidate this offseason or next. That said, this isn't Madden, and we'd be a laughingstock to do it right now. Edited November 15, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted November 15, 2022 Author Share Posted November 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, dancing_joker said: I’m far more interested in Sean Payton as HC than Frank Reich as OC That’s a completely unrealistic scenario Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 NFN, but Frank screwed the pooch in INDY as the play caller...offensive brain trust. Dorsey is a rookie OC and will learn as he goes. Although, right now Josh Allen is putting so much of the offense on his shoulders and that needs change. The Bills had the run game working in the first half and went away from it in the second half for some reason. Six Buffalo RB runs in the entire second half from what I see. I'm more concerned about the amount of offense that supposed top Buffalo defense gave up to the Vikings. 481 offensive yards, 24 first downs and a LOOOOONG run by Dalvin Cook for a TD...81 yards! The 4 turnovers killed the team...not the OC! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Donuts and Doritos said: Frank would run a different offense. We'd never adjust in time, the season would be lost. This is an off season move, if it gets made at all. I agree. We gotta finish this season out with Dorsey and see if he improves? But I wouldn't rule out Payton as HC & Frank as OC down the road. Josh is the future of this organization. Not the over-rated defense. I want to surround him with as much offensive help as possible. Edited November 15, 2022 by LABILLBACKER 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 We have the #1 offense and #2 scoring offense in the NFL and we are talking about firing the OC because of a 2 game losing streak? 2 1 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 I answered "yes". I would bring him as an offensive assistant this year (assuming he wanted to), then decide next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted November 15, 2022 Share Posted November 15, 2022 If you are implying right now in season, no that wouldn't make any sense. But I think all options are on the table in the offseason anything short of a SB appearance which was the expectation and it very well may be a decision McD is forced to make to keep his own job. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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