TBBills Fan Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 There is so much weird with this entire situation. Did Reich not want to be a lame duck coach, maybe some big time disagreements with irsay came to a head? All speculation but I'd have to say this is probably likely. then the interim coach. Wtf. How do your u sell this to the team and staff? Why would Saturday agree to be a lame duck coach in this spot? Seems like a lose lose for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 9 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said: Did Reich not want to be a lame duck coach, maybe some big time disagreements with irsay came to a head? Frank Reich is a man of strong faith, and probably sought contemplation and prayer for answers. * Irsay probably consulted Dr. Feelgood for new and stronger script. 🤨 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 The owner of Indy is going all tank mode again to find another Manning or Luck in the draft. That’s his MO. Hines is probably happy he got out when he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WideNine Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) The Colts should have figured this out before the trade deadline then had a fire sale with teams in the hunt to load up on picks for the next HC. Edited November 9, 2022 by WideNine 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, TBBills Fan said: There is so much weird with this entire situation. Did Reich not want to be a lame duck coach, maybe some big time disagreements with irsay came to a head? All speculation but I'd have to say this is probably likely. I doubt Reich wanted to be fired in the middle of the season. Maybe Reich wanted to bring in a different QB and play Ryan again after his injury heals, given that this poor sacrificial 6th round pick was completely unable to play QB last Sunday? Irsay is the guy who let Curtis Painter play QB while the Colts went 2-14 in the “Suck for Luck” fest, so we know he’s willing to sacrifice a HC and a team/season to go for a draft pick. Who knows? I feel for Frank Reich though. I think he got shanked on QBs with Luck retiring unexpectedly, Rivers retiring after 1 season, and the decision to bring in Wentz and Rivers. I wonder how much of those decisions were his and how much was Irsays and Ballard? 2 hours ago, TBBills Fan said: then the interim coach. Wtf. How do your u sell this to the team and staff? Why would Saturday agree to be a lame duck coach in this spot? Seems like a lose lose for him McAfee kind of implied that perhaps Saturday wanted to get into NFL coaching without going through the grind of being an assistant then a position coach then….. Maybe he figures if he can at least field a team that can get first downs, he’ll get a shot? I dunno, you’re right, it’s just totally weird. 1 hour ago, Andy1 said: The owner of Indy is going all tank mode again to find another Manning or Luck in the draft. That’s his MO. Hines is probably happy he got out when he did. Is there a Luck-type QB prospect in this year’s draft? Zack Moss is probably “what the Holy Heck did I just walk into?” Edited November 9, 2022 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 I imagine he'll reunite with Pederson in Jacksonville. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TBBills Fan Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: I doubt Reich wanted to be fired in the middle of the season. Maybe Reich wanted to bring in a different QB and play Ryan again after his injury heals, given that this poor sacrificial 6th round pick was completely unable to play QB last Sunday? Irsay is the guy who let Curtis Painter play QB while the Colts went 2-14 in the “Suck for Luck” fest, so we know he’s willing to sacrifice a HC and a team/season to go for a draft pick. Who knows? I feel for Frank Reich though. I think he got shanked on QBs with Luck retiring unexpectedly, Rivers retiring after 1 season, and the decision to bring in Wentz and Rivers. I wonder how much of those decisions were his and how much was Irsays and Ballard? McAfee kind of implied that perhaps Saturday wanted to get into NFL coaching without going through the grind of being an assistant then a position coach then….. Maybe he figures if he can at least field a team that can get first downs, he’ll get a shot? I dunno, you’re right, it’s just totally weird. Is there a Luck-type QB prospect in this year’s draft? Zack Moss is probably “what the Holy Heck did I just walk into?” Allg good points. You're right there a thousand possibilities as to what went down, it seems one thing that might be certain is something did go down. I feel for Reich too. But that might just be because he will always be a buffalo bill to me and has a special place inany fans hearts. Of course it may just have been a big ***** show over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 4 hours ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: Frank Reich is a man of strong faith, and probably sought contemplation and prayer for answers. * Irsay probably consulted Dr. Feelgood for new and stronger script. 🤨 I am sure he probably hit up Dr. John Daniels as well 🥃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 Irsay has 100 percent turned into his father. Like Elway back in 83, no first round QB is gonna want to go to the Colts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 hours ago, TBBills Fan said: There is so much weird with this entire situation. Did Reich not want to be a lame duck coach, maybe some big time disagreements with irsay came to a head? All speculation but I'd have to say this is probably likely. then the interim coach. Wtf. How do your u sell this to the team and staff? Why would Saturday agree to be a lame duck coach in this spot? Seems like a lose lose for him I'd bet a lot that he's been promised more (Irsay's comment even indicate this).. they just can't make him HC without conducting the sham process. Irsay acts like a fan. He wants change whenever things don't go the way he thinks they should regardless if change would actually make the situation better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Beck Water said: I doubt Reich wanted to be fired in the middle of the season. Maybe Reich wanted to bring in a different QB and play Ryan again after his injury heals, given that this poor sacrificial 6th round pick was completely unable to play QB last Sunday? Irsay is the guy who let Curtis Painter play QB while the Colts went 2-14 in the “Suck for Luck” fest, so we know he’s willing to sacrifice a HC and a team/season to go for a draft pick. Who knows? I feel for Frank Reich though. I think he got shanked on QBs with Luck retiring unexpectedly, Rivers retiring after 1 season, and the decision to bring in Wentz and Rivers. I wonder how much of those decisions were his and how much was Irsays and Ballard? Rivers and Wentz were Reich calls. Ryan is a bit less clear. But by the time they got to Matt Ryan the damage was done anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Rivers and Wentz were Reich calls. Ryan is a bit less clear. But by the time they got to Matt Ryan the damage was done anyway. Well, if that’s true, then Reich has a lot of responsibility for the debacle. I don’t see Ballard as having the ego to be a rubber stamp, though, and Reich was very much an afterthought of a hire if we recall, who didn’t even get to hire his staff. So how did he get that influence? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Beck Water said: Well, if that’s true, then Reich has a lot of responsibility for the debacle. I don’t see Ballard as having the ego to be a rubber stamp, though, and Reich was very much an afterthought of a hire if we recall, who didn’t even get to hire his staff. So how did he get that influence? Oh Reich has a lot of responsibility. No question. I suspect Ballard deferred to Reich on QB because of his history. He personally apologised to management for vouching for Wentz. I suspect after that Ballard made the Ryan call but I don't think that has been widely reported. The mistake that they made jointly was not deciding earlier on in the process to prioritise drafting their own guy. It is a mistakes we saw the Bills make time and again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 (edited) 20 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Oh Reich has a lot of responsibility. No question. I suspect Ballard deferred to Reich on QB because of his history. He personally apologised to management for vouching for Wentz. I suspect after that Ballard made the Ryan call but I don't think that has been widely reported. The mistake that they made jointly was not deciding earlier on in the process to prioritise drafting their own guy. It is a mistakes we saw the Bills make time and again. I can't blame them for Rivers. They thought they had a winning team, then Luck retired. He was their Stafford, so to speak, the very talented QB trapped for years in a spinning-its-wheels franchise. But once he retired, then yeah, they needed to re-tool and say "we gotta get our guy" Is all this drama about Ballard apologizing to management for Wentz public somewhere? Edited November 9, 2022 by Beck Water 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 2 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I can't blame them for Rivers. They thought they had a winning team, then Luck retired. He was their Stafford, so to speak, the very talented QB trapped for years in a spinning-its-wheels franchise. But once he retired, then yeah, they needed to re-tool and say "we gotta get our guy" Is all this drama about Ballard apologizing to management for Wentz public somewhere? Reich apologising, not Ballard. https://sports.yahoo.com/frank-reich-reportedly-apologized-to-colts-ownership-for-vouching-for-carson-wentz-002956122.html#:~:text=In the aftermath of the,Wentz in the first place. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Reich apologising, not Ballard. https://sports.yahoo.com/frank-reich-reportedly-apologized-to-colts-ownership-for-vouching-for-carson-wentz-002956122.html#:~:text=In the aftermath of the,Wentz in the first place. Pederson and Reich both got canned for sticking their neck out for this guy lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted November 9, 2022 Share Posted November 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Reich apologising, not Ballard. https://sports.yahoo.com/frank-reich-reportedly-apologized-to-colts-ownership-for-vouching-for-carson-wentz-002956122.html#:~:text=In the aftermath of the,Wentz in the first place. That makes sense, yeah. But then why the Colts would "go to the well" again and bring in another once-great QB, is a total puzzle. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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