wnyguy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, teef said: so you think the election was stolen? you really don't think it was a giant tantrum by trump? this is what happened. a bunch of rednecks got together to protest a so called stolen election. they got there, got all riled up, and attacked the capital over a complete false pretense. no one forced them to be there. no one forced them to run into the capital and rip the place apart...all of this was done on their own free will. no dem told them to be there and do any of it. trump at any point could have calmed it down, but we all know he didn't want to. this wasn't a conspiracy...it was a giant tantrum because the president refused to admit he lost an election. if you want to feel the election was stolen, so be it. it still didn't mean j6 had to occur. the dems didn't put that together. that group of #######s did. Yes I do think it was stolen. Anyone with two brain cels to rub together could see that. As far as the actions of the crowd, I agree that is on them and it should not have happened. I don't agree with what went on but I really understand why it did.
BillsFanNC Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago (edited) Teef: I'd be happy to tag you, but I can't. Blame Simon and The King. And not only was the election not stolen, it was the most secure election in US history!!! 😂 I mean how else would you expect an election with the majority of votes counted by unsecured mail in ballot (the first time in US history) with a candidate who campaigned from his basement to turn out? 81 million votes for the victor. An all time record! And the MOST SECURE! 😂 Edited 2 hours ago by BillsFanNC 1
teef Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, wnyguy said: Yes I do think it was stolen. Anyone with two brain cels to rub together could see that. As far as the actions of the crowd, I agree that is on them and it should not have happened. I don't agree with what went on but I really understand why it did. this is fair. it doesn't even really matter who thinks what about the election, my point in this thread was that the crowd was their on their own free will, and stormed the capital. even if someone understands why they did it, it still should never happen. the dems did not arrange this, and the constant framing this into a giant hoax is just avoiding accountability of those men. no hoax, just #######s. 6 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Teef: I'd be happy to tag you, but I can't. Blame Simon and The King. And not only was the election not stolen, it was the most secure election in US history!!! 😂 I mean how else would you expect an election with the majority of votes counted by unsecured mail in ballot (the first time in US history) with a candidate who campaigned from his basement to turn out? 81 million votes for the victor. An all time record! And the MOST SECURE! 😂 what you think about the election doesn't matter. those protestors were there to no peacefully protest. they new what they were there to do and mob mentality set it. we all saw what happened. the dems didn't make them do it, it is not a conspiracy, it is not a hoax. just idiots.
Homelander Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago The election was stolen - they even had a lot of theories, they said, but they didn't have the evidence. Pathetic.
wnyguy Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 1 minute ago, teef said: this is fair. it doesn't even really matter who thinks what about the election, my point in this thread was that the crowd was their on their own free will, and stormed the capital. even if someone understands why they did it, it still should never happen. the dems did not arrange this, and the constant framing this into a giant hoax is just avoiding accountability of those men. no hoax, just #######s. I agree with you. No one forced anyone to enter the Capitol Building but those that did were prosecuted and sentenced for their involvement. This has nothing to do with who was walking around dropping pipe bombs in strategic areas at the time. 1 minute ago, Homelander said: The election was stolen - they even had a lot of theories, they said, but they didn't have the evidence. Pathetic. Homelander? Homelander? Are you the guy who posts over and over about Epstein or do I have you confused with someone else?
teef Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, wnyguy said: I agree with you. No one forced anyone to enter the Capitol Building but those that did were prosecuted and sentenced for their involvement. This has nothing to do with who was walking around dropping pipe bombs in strategic areas at the time. also fair, but j6 wasn't a hoax, nor was it orchestrated by the dems. that's what i was calling the op out on.
wnyguy Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Just now, teef said: also fair, but j6 wasn't a hoax, nor was it orchestrated by the dems. that's what i was calling the op out on. Aaah gotcha.
teef Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 3 minutes ago, Homelander said: The election was stolen - they even had a lot of theories, they said, but they didn't have the evidence. Pathetic. apparently there was enough to incite a riot.
BillsFanNC Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Gotta love the semantics in use by teef. Of course J6 happened. What a cop out. What also happened in addition to what you've been spoon fed and swallowed and don't want to dare pause for a moment to consider: Opening the multi ton, impenetrable Capitol doors from INSIDE and allowing hundreds in. Why? Corrupted pipe bomber cell phone data, while cell phone geo fencing was of course reliably used to nab many other J6ers. Why? Bomb sniffing dogs missing a bomb placed in plain sight right in front of the DNC. Why? The face of the insurrection, the Buffalo hat guy, being escorted throughout the Capitol, and then right into the Senate chamber by friggin CHP. Why? Numerous people on video doing much more than others who did prison time who were never caught, let alone searched for by FBI. Why? The secret service deleting comms from J6. Why? The J6 committee itself deleting data and transcripts. Why? 240+ FBI associated individuals present in the crowd on J6. Why? Or better yet if they had knowledge from proud boys etc....why didn't they stop it? Etc... Oh J6 happened alright....just not the way you've swallowed.
teef Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 minute ago, BillsFanNC said: Gotta love the semantics in use by teef. Of course J6 happened. What a cop out. What also happened in addition to what you've been spoon fed and swallowed and don't want to dare pause for a moment to consider: Opening the multi ton, impenetrable Capitol doors from INSIDE and allowing hundreds in. Why? Corrupted pipe bomber cell phone data, while cell phone geo fencing was of course reliably used to nab many other J6ers. Why? Bomb sniffing dogs missing a bomb placed in plain sight right in front of the DNC. Why? The face of the insurrection, the Buffalo hat guy, being escorted throughout the Capitol, and then right into the Senate chamber by friggin CHP. Why? Numerous people on video doing much more than others who did prison time who were never caught, let alone searched for by FBI. Why? The secret service deleting comms from J6. Why? The J6 committee itself deleting data and transcripts. Why? 240+ FBI associated individuals present in the crowd on J6. Why? Or better yet if they had knowledge from proud boys etc....why didn't they stop it? Etc... Oh J6 happened alright....just not the way you've swallowed. how am i using semantics? why is it a cop out? the group decided to be there and they were the ones who went into the capital building. were there democrats there helping them to walk inside? they didn't have to go in. they chose to. people inside were barricading themselves into rooms afraid for their well being. not a single person forced them to take any action at all. if they don't show up, there's no j6. unless the dems gathered all of those people there, walked them inside, and helped tear the place apart...it's not a hoax as you've called it all along.
Homelander Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Gotta love the semantics in use by teef. Of course J6 happened. What a cop out. What also happened in addition to what you've been spoon fed and swallowed and don't want to dare pause for a moment to consider: Opening the multi ton, impenetrable Capitol doors from INSIDE and allowing hundreds in. Why? Corrupted pipe bomber cell phone data, while cell phone geo fencing was of course reliably used to nab many other J6ers. Why? Bomb sniffing dogs missing a bomb placed in plain sight right in front of the DNC. Why? The face of the insurrection, the Buffalo hat guy, being escorted throughout the Capitol, and then right into the Senate chamber by friggin CHP. Why? Numerous people on video doing much more than others who did prison time who were never caught, let alone searched for by FBI. Why? The secret service deleting comms from J6. Why? The J6 committee itself deleting data and transcripts. Why? 240+ FBI associated individuals present in the crowd on J6. Why? Or better yet if they had knowledge from proud boys etc....why didn't they stop it? Etc... Oh J6 happened alright....just not the way you've swallowed. Feelings.
BillsFanNC Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago Not to mention the most obvious of all J6 over arching happenings: The notion that a bunch of middle aged, unarmed morons were able to gain access to the Capitol building of the most powerful government on planet earth, then simply mill around inside for a bit, only to turn around all on their own in order to be home by dinner time. Insurrection!!! 😂
teef Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 11 minutes ago, BillsFanNC said: Not to mention the most obvious of all J6 over arching happenings: The notion that a bunch of middle aged, unarmed morons were able to gain access to the Capitol building of the most powerful government on planet earth, then simply mill around inside for a bit, only to turn around all on their own in order to be home by dinner time. Insurrection!!! 😂 why go in at all? why were a bunch of morons smashing windows and doors? and milling around inside? every time with you. no common sense...just looking to place blame. i could see if this was a rare occasion for you, but it's on every single topic. j6 happened because of a number of easily manipulated d-bags felt they needed to take their government back. if they hadn't shown up to do so, or just quietly protested outside, none of this would have happened. but it did, so take the lump and just move on. once this country opens up, the epstein files are going to be a thing again. then what? how soon before you start calling it a democratic hoax even though trump himself showed us it wasn't.
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted 22 minutes ago Posted 22 minutes ago 32 minutes ago, teef said: why go in at all? why were a bunch of morons smashing windows and doors? and milling around inside? every time with you. no common sense...just looking to place blame. i could see if this was a rare occasion for you, but it's on every single topic. j6 happened because of a number of easily manipulated d-bags felt they needed to take their government back. if they hadn't shown up to do so, or just quietly protested outside, none of this would have happened. but it did, so take the lump and just move on. once this country opens up, the epstein files are going to be a thing again. then what? how soon before you start calling it a democratic hoax even though trump himself showed us it wasn't. Personally, I think it was symptomatic of a much bigger issue, and that’s a fundamental lack of trust in our elections/leadership. I believe that the events of 1/6 were set in place when leadership of the Democrats party referred to Trumps election as illegitimate, a Russian op, a coup and more. I believe that set the stage for all sorts of nefarious and shady dealings by the Dems looking to stifle the Trump agenda. I most definitely believe Trump supporters saw that whole 4 year debacle and took it personally. So, when Trump loses the election, he started on his version of stolen and illegitimate elections. I think some people believed it, it motivated them to action. I think some people probably didn’t believe the election was stolen yet figured if the Dems did it, might as well support the cause and turn out. Then of course, there were the hyper aggressive people in the crowd who like to see sh$t burn and things spiraled from there. I think people are manipulated into believing all sorts of things— illegitimate elections, stolen elections, classified document raids, “slippage”, and mostly that most political inquiries are completed to uncover the truth.
boyst Posted 4 minutes ago Posted 4 minutes ago 7 hours ago, teef said: ok. let's just do some common sense stuff here. why were people gathered in front of the capital building that day? Have you watched the whole speech by Trump? Have you watched the whole footage of the J6? Seems the stuff at the Capitol (btw it's not an A its an O) was interesting. A lot of cheerleading outside to get folks in and rallied by folks who didn't go in or make a move. 2 hours ago, teef said: so you think the election was stolen? you really don't think it was a giant tantrum by trump? this is what happened. a bunch of rednecks got together to protest a so called stolen election. they got there, got all riled up, and attacked the capital over a complete false pretense. no one forced them to be there. no one forced them to run into the capital and rip the place apart...all of this was done on their own free will. no dem told them to be there and do any of it. trump at any point could have calmed it down, but we all know he didn't want to. this wasn't a conspiracy...it was a giant tantrum because the president refused to admit he lost an election. if you want to feel the election was stolen, so be it. it still didn't mean j6 had to occur. the dems didn't put that together. that group of #######s did. Trump didn't call to have violence. This was hours later. The police were told to stand down, as was the guard, pelosi wanted the optics that it generated. It was all a politically staged event for both sides. Also, Jesus Christ bro. Capitol. Not capital. The election didn't make sense with the results. Statically it was like a .0001% of opportunity 2 hours ago, BillsFanNC said: Teef: I'd be happy to tag you, but I can't. Blame Simon and The King. And not only was the election not stolen, it was the most secure election in US history!!! 😂 I mean how else would you expect an election with the majority of votes counted by unsecured mail in ballot (the first time in US history) with a candidate who campaigned from his basement to turn out? 81 million votes for the victor. An all time record! And the MOST SECURE! 😂 You're not allowed to tag people?
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