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1 hour ago, Sundancer said:

 

You continue to conflate your personal theory vs what that voice in the video said. At best, you could say the voice in the video said he was a nudist and was told by someone on the phone not to say that in the press conference (yet). That's it.  

 

You said, "Police caught on hot mic stating that they will not correct the perception he is a right winger by stating fact that he is an illegal alien nudist activist. "

 

Last time: The police said. No. Such. Thing. 

 

 

 

I will make this my last point on this and then let you respond if you like, but I do appreciate you recognizing that nothing I said was factually incorrect and I love the fact that you refuse to comment on why they did not state "they have a working knowledge of him" because you know why. 

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28 minutes ago, Orlando Tim said:

I will make this my last point on this and then let you respond if you like, but I do appreciate you recognizing that nothing I said was factually incorrect and I love the fact that you refuse to comment on why they did not state "they have a working knowledge of him" because you know why. 


Another lie. “I do appreciate you recognizing that nothing I said was factually incorrect….”

 

I didn’t respond to your other stupid points because you were trying to escape your first lie and I wouldn’t let you get out of it. 

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https://nypost.com/2022/11/15/nbc-news-reporter-suspended-over-retracted-paul-pelosi-story/amp/
 

So, the reporter has been suspended for this report.   Yet another odd domino to fall in this story.  No comment on whether his producer or editor has been suspended. It seems unlikely this story would not have been vetted by upper management at the station. 
 

This would be a great story for another media outlet to report on. 

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4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

https://nypost.com/2022/11/15/nbc-news-reporter-suspended-over-retracted-paul-pelosi-story/amp/
 

So, the reporter has been suspended for this report.   Yet another odd domino to fall in this story.  No comment on whether his producer or editor has been suspended. It seems unlikely this story would not have been vetted by upper management at the station. 
 

This would be a great story for another media outlet to report on. 

 

And still no one fired over utter the lack of surveillance of the house that day.  And of course we're not going to be seeing surveillance or body camera footage.  Meanwhile, do we know if they have locks on their bathroom doors?

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4 hours ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:

https://nypost.com/2022/11/15/nbc-news-reporter-suspended-over-retracted-paul-pelosi-story/amp/
 

So, the reporter has been suspended for this report.   Yet another odd domino to fall in this story.  No comment on whether his producer or editor has been suspended. It seems unlikely this story would not have been vetted by upper management at the station. 
 

This would be a great story for another media outlet to report on. 


How is that suspicious?

 

A reporter, rushing to be the first instead of the most accurate, reported false information. 
 

How else should that be handled?

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37 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:


How is that suspicious?

 

A reporter, rushing to be the first instead of the most accurate, reported false information. 
 

How else should that be handled?

Who said it was suspicious?  I said it was an odd domino to fall.  What's up with you guys lately?  When the story was initially reported, I said it was odd, and SunnyD claimed I said it was "fishy".   Odd isn't suspicious, odd isn't fishy.  Odd is odd.  

 

You've surmised that the reporter rushed to the front and disregarded accuracy concerns.  I think that happened early on, when the reporting from some media outlets suggested two men in their underwear, a third person letting them in, and so on.  

 

In this case, the version of events reported by Miguel Almaguer was published a week after the incident and hardly reflected breaking news. It was a professionally produced and edited segment that cited sources close to the investigation.  I assume that a story with that level of national interest, involving a hammer to the head of a multi-millionaire married to the Speaker of the House, would be of significant interest to the News Organization.  In fact, given the initial rush to get the story out and with some of the confusion surrounding the facts, I would assume everything was vetted before the story ran.

 

It's certainly possible that the reporter acted on his own and ran fast and loose to create some buzz,  but that would strike me as odd as well.  He's been a fixture at the Network for many years.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

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3 hours ago, Doc said:

 

And still no one fired over utter the lack of surveillance of the house that day.  And of course we're not going to be seeing surveillance or body camera footage.  Meanwhile, do we know if they have locks on their bathroom doors?

I said earlier on that if the police department or DA follows their normal routine, it is what it is.  If however they follow a different process for releasing body cam footage etc, or are extending courtesy due to who they are, it's understandable that people would question why.  

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20 hours ago, cle23 said:

 

Yes, because opioids have only become a problem recently.

 

Very disingenuous.  They certainly have become an vastly increased problem recently.

 

 

 

Annnnnnnnnnnnd.  Back to the thread.

 

 

Hmmm.

 

REPORT: Paul Pelosi Seen Opening Door for Police on Body Cam Video as Originally Reported. 

 

“So why would NBC News scrub an awkward story about the husband of a House Speaker representing an embattled majority in the weeks before a midterm election to determine control of the House?”

 

 

NBC Bay Area reporter Bigad Shaban claimed Wednesday that police body cam footage supports Almaguer’s initial story, “according to a source familiar with the Pelosi investigation who personally viewed the body camera footage.”

 

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/body-cam-video-paul-pelosi-attack/3076235/

 

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2022/11/17/report-paul-pelosi-seen-opening-door-for-police-on-body-cam-video-as-originally-reported-n1646664

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, B-Man said:

 

Very disingenuous.  They certainly have become an vastly increased problem recently.

 

 

 

Annnnnnnnnnnnd.  Back to the thread.

 

 

Hmmm.

 

REPORT: Paul Pelosi Seen Opening Door for Police on Body Cam Video as Originally Reported. 

 

“So why would NBC News scrub an awkward story about the husband of a House Speaker representing an embattled majority in the weeks before a midterm election to determine control of the House?”

 

 

NBC Bay Area reporter Bigad Shaban claimed Wednesday that police body cam footage supports Almaguer’s initial story, “according to a source familiar with the Pelosi investigation who personally viewed the body camera footage.”

 

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/body-cam-video-paul-pelosi-attack/3076235/

 

https://pjmedia.com/vodkapundit/2022/11/17/report-paul-pelosi-seen-opening-door-for-police-on-body-cam-video-as-originally-reported-n1646664

 

 

 

 

 

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It is disingenuous to imply that Biden has caused our opioid crisis when opioids have been a crisis for 10+ years.  I am not saying Biden is blameless, but opioids have gotten worse under every President, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and now Biden.  Where were you guys blaming Trump as well?

 

The issue is that opioids are a growing problem, not which President to blame the problem on.

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53 minutes ago, cle23 said:

 

It is disingenuous to imply that Biden has caused our opioid crisis when opioids have been a crisis for 10+ years.  I am not saying Biden is blameless, but opioids have gotten worse under every President, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and now Biden.  Where were you guys blaming Trump as well?

 

The issue is that opioids are a growing problem, not which President to blame the problem on.


There is a word in your post that exemplifies YOUR disingenuous behavior.  I was going to make you guess the word but that would be mean.  That word is “caused”.  No one is saying he’s caused it. That would be absurd. But just as I don’t blame him for inflation I do not blame him for this.  However he’s in the big boy chair and it’s is problem to deal with.  Now I am not saying I expect him, and him alone, to fix it.  But for Christ sake.  Let’s open the conversation and admit our porous border is part of the problem.
 

It’s seems that many of you have never been hired as a manager to clean up the mess left by your predecessor.  Pointing fingers is not the job of the new leader.  It’s his/her job to roll up their sleeves and get to work. 

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1 hour ago, cle23 said:

 

It is disingenuous to imply that Biden has caused our opioid crisis when opioids have been a crisis for 10+ years.  I am not saying Biden is blameless, but opioids have gotten worse under every President, including Bush, Obama, Trump, and now Biden.  Where were you guys blaming Trump as well?

 

The issue is that opioids are a growing problem, not which President to blame the problem on.

 

It was disingenous to imply, much less outright say, that Trump caused Wuhan virus.  Yet he got the blame and lost an election over it, thanks in large part to a complicit media, which is now doing their best to shield Joke.

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1 hour ago, Doc said:

 

It was disingenous to imply, much less outright say, that Trump caused Wuhan virus.  Yet he got the blame and lost an election over it, thanks in large part to a complicit media, which is now doing their best to shield Joke.

 

I agree that it would be wrong to blame Trump for CAUSING the virus.  I do think he mishandled it once more information was known, but who knows how each President would have handled it.  I also think his personality and constant blame game and administration issues were the cause of him losing the election, with the handling of the virus a part of that.

 

I am not a Biden fan.  Gun to my head, if I had to pick between he and Trump, I would probably pick Biden, but I did not vote for either in the past election because I did not feel either was worthy of the office.  

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2 hours ago, Chef Jim said:


There is a word in your post that exemplifies YOUR disingenuous behavior.  I was going to make you guess the word but that would be mean.  That word is “caused”.  No one is saying he’s caused it. That would be absurd. But just as I don’t blame him for inflation I do not blame him for this.  However he’s in the big boy chair and it’s is problem to deal with.  Now I am not saying I expect him, and him alone, to fix it.  But for Christ sake.  Let’s open the conversation and admit our porous border is part of the problem.
 

It’s seems that many of you have never been hired as a manager to clean up the mess left by your predecessor.  Pointing fingers is not the job of the new leader.  It’s his/her job to roll up their sleeves and get to work. 

 

My issue isn't with people wanting our leaders to do more.  I think we can all agree that they need and should do more.  The opioid crisis has been largely ignored for years now, with steps taken to help correct the crisis largely being a show more than substance.  The wall doesn't and never was going to work.  Looser immigration policy won't work.  The best way to reduce the opioids coming into the country is the lessen the demand that we as a society and medical community have largely created.  

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