Lane Meyer K12 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 It is shell shock from all the years of shame and embarrassment. It is the disbelief that this team is actually this good and the rug won't be pulled. Advice to people that hold onto this fear: enjoy the ride. Like all things in life, what goes up must come down and vice versa. This team was on a tremendous downtrend for well over a decade and it appears the uptrend is now in place. Enjoy it. Go Bills! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 For me, it's a constant battle with my PTSD from the 90s. Logically, I know the Bills are the best team in the NFL. Logically, I know a quarterback as great as Josh Allen is almost certain to get a ring eventually. Logically, I know failure from 25-30 years ago has nothing to do with this franchise today. Logically, I don't believe in sports curses or that certain teams having more bad luck. But at the same time, I've been watching this team since the late 1980s. I've seen some incredible teams and fantastic players come through, and still have NEVER had our season end on a positive note. All I can remember is a bunch of heartbreak (1990s), sandwiching a never-ending playoff-less streak of terribleness and mediocrity (2000s and most of the 2010s), and finally now three more seasons of heartbreak (2019-2021). Football is also the only sport I really care about, so this is really all I've experienced in my life. On 10/26/2022 at 8:48 PM, SACTOBILLSFAN said: I think I can answer this one... I grew up a Bills, Sabres and Cubs fan thanks to my parents bringing me up in a sports abuse household. My job is basically analytics, probabillities and market projections and I even do my own sports projections (for entertainment purposes only since I live in Texas). But, by 2016 I'd never seen ANY of my favorite teams win anything. The closest thing I had was the 4 Super Bowl losses and No Goal as the pinnacle of my fandom. However, in 2016 my numbers, Vegas betting lines and the overall mood of the baseball world was the Cubs were a juggernaut and odds on favorites to win the World Series, even though the probability was about 17%. So, watching that team, I missed maybe 2 games that year, was almost painful because of the weight of expectations that I'd never ever had before in my life and I had no idea how to handle it. I scrutinized every little thing that would go wrong, even though there was nothing that pointed to that team being anything but dominant. My whole world is numbers and the logic of math, and I was the most illogical person ever during that season, and the playoff were even worse. When the Cubs finally won that World Series it completely changed how I watched sports. I still get nervous and anxious, especially about the Bills, but it's not crippling like it was in 16, which is ridiculous to even thing about since I watched them 180 times. What I think is happening with Bills doom boners is that we've never had a team like this. The Kelly teams were never this good, I don't care what anyone says, it's just the truth. The fans are having a hard time not expecting the worst, especially because reaching the playoffs is almost a foregone conclusion, which is all many of us wanted to see and looked forward to every year until we got there. The weight of the expectations and the idea that winning the Super Bowl isn't easy and everything we've had let us down as fans the past 30 years makes a lot of people really anxious. I mean I still get anxious about Josh Allen even though I know if he's not the best QB in football he's the second best. If this team wins the Super Bowl I really hope the fans stay awesome, because that title turned 90% of Cubs fans (real fans not the people who started watching in October) into completely insufferable #######s. PS - Got the Bills at 30.5% to win the Super Bowl at this point in the year and Chiefs are 2nd at 16.4%. Tremendous post. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 37 minutes ago, Greg S said: If the Bills win the Super Bowl, then the celebration/party in WNY will be legendary. I would make the 6 hour drive from NJ just to be there. I would imagine Bills fans all around the world will try to get to WNY just to be a part of it. No doubt about that for 99% of Bills fans. 1% will still see the glass half empty, no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 6 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: No doubt about that for 99% of Bills fans. 1% will still see the glass half empty, no matter what. If anyone still sees the glass half empty after a Bills Super Bowl win then they should give up on sports. If fans can't be happy after a championship, then what's the point 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NORWOODS FOOT Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Fear of being hurt, letdown, and disappointed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muppy Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 7:11 PM, billsfan1959 said: I have full confidence in this team I mean come on. I've followed this team since the 70's and if there was ever a Bills team to have confidence in, It's THIS team. All the battered fan syndrome stuff needs to be kicked to the curb. I urge fans to Fight for their mental health and choose to believe what you SEE not what you Remember. Go Bills!~!~!!! 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 9:21 PM, BillsFan619 said: I’ve been holding off on this post for a couple days but this facetious Twitter post got me off the fence. I know it’s hard to tell tone in a post so please know this isn’t an angry or demeaning rant, it’s more of a curious rant. Why do some fans choose not to have confidence in this team? We’re the best team in the league and there’s still posts about “remember the Jags game”, “any given Sunday”, “this will be the game this team gets out of their slump”, “we don’t have tape on this rookie QB so he could torch us”, etc., etc., etc. Or, there may be posts that pick out one strength from the opposing team or one weakness from us and they’re worried about that instead of choosing to be confident in the nine strengths we do have going into that game. I’ll only mention this one thing about the game day posts because many times that’s when the worst comes out. There’s posts on there where we’ll have a rough start or a stalled drive or two and people are calling for the coaches’ heads. I think most fans get that we’re not gonna win every game and that the jags game or any given Sunday game could happen once or possibly twice a year. Why not go into some games (I say some games because I get being nervous going into a game like the Chiefs, Ravens or another good team but against teams like the Steelers, Jets or another middling team?) confident and then if there is an “any given Sunday” or “Jags game” outcome then just chalk it up as such. We’re at a level where we can enjoy this team without having to worry about every negative, weakness or game. We get critique but calling for the coach’s head when he’s the winningest coach in our history? -We’re the best team in football (we know there may be a game or two where it’s any given Sunday) -Someone in another post mentioned this already but we’ve beaten the #2 seed, #3 seed and #4 in our conference -JA is one of the best, if not the best, QBs in the league right now -We have the #1 defense and a top-three offense -Our point differential is the highest in the league and the next team isn’t even close -The average points we’ve beaten the Rams, the Titans, the Ravens and the Chiefs by is 15 points -We’ve blown people out and have won close games -We’re the #1 seed in the AFC, and again, the best team in football What more do you need to be confident going into games? If you’re one of these fans, I’d love to hear from you. Do you just find something to be nervous about, do you just not have enough confidence in this team, are you just trolling or…? I’d love to hear from a lot of Bills Mafia as well. Curious rant over. Go Bills! See Jets game 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 This thread cursed us 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Because this team repeatedly shows us what they are. Soft and mentally weak. People try to tamp that down and shout down people who say it but they keep doing it. Over and over and over again. Edited November 14, 2022 by That's No Moon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harryS Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, BigDingus said: This thread cursed us 🤣 this and many other threads. i never want to hear that this team is one of the best NFL teams of all time again, lol. we *will* regroup and play better, though. but let's keep it on an even keel when that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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What a Tuel Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 On 10/28/2022 at 8:46 AM, strive_for_five_guy said: We win the Super Bowl, and some will complain that we should have won one earlier, or that this one means nothing until we win a few more, etc. I guarantee that a certain of sub set of posters would start threads that say "Should we replace McDermott? Statistics show he is probably 1 and done" or some dumb crap like that. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 LOL this whole thing aged well. The tone of a lot of media, fans and even <gasp> a few here had shifted from confidence to arrogance. Confidence - Genuine belief your team can beat any team, happy when it does Arrogance - Expect your team to win every game, miserable when it does not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: Because this team repeatedly shows us what they are. Soft and mentally weak. People try to tamp that down and shout down people who say it but they keep doing it. Over and over and over again. Every team has tough losses. What team last year did not have a couple of them? All 4 of the below teams made the AFC/NFC Championship games, and half of them made the Super Bowl. I think the Bills fan base is demonstrating that we are soft and mentally weak with every loss. Does losing suck? Yes, but the natural tendancy to tear down the team, org, anyone associated after every loss is disturbing. KC? Lost 5 games: To recap that is: 1st seed Titans (Blowout) 3rd seed Bills (Blowout) 4th seed Bengals division rival Chargers Heart breaker loss to Ravens Cincinatti? Lost 7 games: To recap that is: 1st seed Packers Blown out by Chargers Heartbreaker loss to 49ers Bad Bears Bad Jets Blown out by division rival Browns Rams? Lost 5 games To recap that is: 1st seed Titans Blown out by 49ers 1st seed Packers (Blowout) Heartbreaker loss to 49ers Division loss to Cardinals 49ers? Lost 7 games: To recap that is: 1st seed Packers (Heartbreaker loss) Divisional opponent Seahawks Divisional opponent Cardinals Blowout by Colts Divisional opponent Cardinals Divisional Opponent Seahawks 1st seed Titans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VaMilBill Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 BBFS is very real and for good reason. See losses like this past weekend and you know why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Every team has tough losses. What team last year did not have a couple of them? All 4 of the below teams made the AFC/NFC Championship games, and half of them made the Super Bowl. I think the Bills fan base is demonstrating that we are soft and mentally weak with every loss. Does losing suck? Yes, but the natural tendancy to tear down the team, org, anyone associated after every loss is disturbing. KC? Lost 5 games: To recap that is: 1st seed Titans (Blowout) 3rd seed Bills (Blowout) 4th seed Bengals division rival Chargers Heart breaker loss to Ravens Cincinatti? Lost 7 games: To recap that is: 1st seed Packers Blown out by Chargers Heartbreaker loss to 49ers Bad Bears Bad Jets Blown out by division rival Browns Rams? Lost 5 games To recap that is: 1st seed Titans Blown out by 49ers 1st seed Packers (Blowout) Heartbreaker loss to 49ers Division loss to Cardinals 49ers? Lost 7 games: To recap that is: 1st seed Packers (Heartbreaker loss) Divisional opponent Seahawks Divisional opponent Cardinals Blowout by Colts Divisional opponent Cardinals Divisional Opponent Seahawks 1st seed Titans 2-9 in their last 11 one score games. And these aren't just flip a coin, dude hit a 64 yard FG losses. Many of these are crapping your pants with dumb mistakes or blowing leads types of losses. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) Quote Why do some Bills fans refuse to have confidence in this team? Simple. Because they are sitting in 3rd place in the division. Sheesh, some things are just self-evident. Edit: and one more loss from last place. Edited November 14, 2022 by boater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus Aurelius Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Look man, I have been a BILLS FAN since the 60s ... will always be one. But have confidence in them? I lost that when the Bills traded away Daryle Lamonica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, That's No Moon said: 2-9 in their last 11 one score games. And these aren't just flip a coin, dude hit a 64 yard FG losses. Many of these are crapping your pants with dumb mistakes or blowing leads types of losses. Why 11 games? 8-11 since 2020. What are we in >1 score games? Oh just 25-2 since 2020. Get a grip. Every team loses games every year since 1972. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 This thread needs to be burned to the ground epic jinx status - where did this smart a** go ? YOU UNDERSTAND OUR PAIN NOW?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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