PrimeTime101 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 57 minutes ago, Big Turk said: Seems like people don't want to see key plays he makes and just ignore them like they didn't happen. Did you not see the big 3rd down conversion he had when he ducked under a Dolphin tackle attempt 3 yards short of th first down and ended up getting it? He has had a few catches like this on 3rd down that converted critical 3rd downs. to the bolded, those throws were so perfect that any HB catches those... Hell our FB/TE was catching balls. The big run. Cooper would have taken that the distance. He got a first down? well wooptie freaking doo. Hes asked to break tackles out there. ITs who he is supposed to be. so what he had 2 good plays out of 4 carries.. What about all his other carries this year? Take out one big run and a first down run? then what? And I am happy for moss that he had a better performance, but I think it's time to see what our rookie can do. In short, I am not disagreeing with you... I am looking at the bigger picture concerning our Top 2 RB and now i want to see Cooke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Just now, extrahammer said: Clearly you're a guy who doesn't look at nuances or details. Oh wow, 6 yards per carry even though more than half of them came on one carry, lol... let's revisit this thread at the end of the season and see if he keeps that up. Looking at his pattern of play, I definitely don't believe he will. At this point, he's taking carries away from our two best playmakers at the RB position. You asked a question. I answered it, as did several others here. And then you revealed your unwillingness to listen to answers. This is a hate thread whose title should be something more like, "Wah, wah, I don't like Zach Moss." Fine, whatever. You want to explain away the facts that don't fit your position. Again, whatever. You won't understand the world as well as people who try to look at all the available information, but that's your privilege. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, PrimeTime101 said: to the bolded, those throws were so perfect that any HB catches those... Hell our FB/TE was catching balls. The big run. Cooper would have taken that And I am happy for moss that he had a better performance, but I think it's time to see what our rookie can do. In short, I am not disagreeing with you... I am looking at the bigger picture concerning our Top 2 RB and now i want to see Cooke Some catches were easy. Some weren't. He's made some very nice catches while here, as this shows: The Bills also love that he's a terrific pass blocker. I'd like to see Cooke too. All of them, really, but the OL has not been providing opportunities so far this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickelCity Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I'm fine with Singletary and Cook. I don't need to see the amount of touches Moss gets, but I'm not a coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapeBreton Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 About a million things went wrong for the Bills yesterday but your focus is on Zack Moss? He had a damn nice run and made a big third down play on his 5 touches, not a bad day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Zach Moss, like almost any RB, is dependent on the OL and play calling to give them room to run. The Bills' had, at best, a makeshift OL in the 2nd half yesterday and running room was hard to come by. I'm not saying that Moss is great, but he isn't as bad as people make him out to be. He has some power and he can make a shifty cut now and then. I think the blame is misplaced on the RBs for lack of run game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 I don't blame Moss for being a terrible NFL player, I blame the coaches and GM that are steadfast in their determination to keep him on the roster and give him meaningful playing time. Not sure what more it's going to take to understand that barring injuries, only Singletary and Cook should be getting touches in this offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 22 minutes ago, Thurman#1 said: Some catches were easy. Some weren't. He's made some very nice catches while here, as this shows: The Bills also love that he's a terrific pass blocker. I'd like to see Cooke too. All of them, really, but the OL has not been providing opportunities so far this year. I was referring to this year. yes he has some great moments but answer this. how many teams do you think Moss or Motor start for in this league? We need to identify if we have a true tier 2 player in Cook. that's my whole point in its entirety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Because Devin Singletary is 15 for 32 in his last two games? I wasn't gonna say it but... he hasn't been very effective. 1 hour ago, freddyjj said: Not sure why he is that guy either. He missed the block on the S on the sack/strip of Josh. And on his long run, all I could think of was that's a long TD if Cook ran that same play. No he didn't. Singletary missed the block. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Our best running back left for Charlotte last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Oh I see Edmunds plays well then we move on to Moss.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: I don't blame Moss for being a terrible NFL player, I blame the coaches and GM that are steadfast in their determination to keep him on the roster and give him meaningful playing time. Not sure what more it's going to take to understand that barring injuries, only Singletary and Cook should be getting touches in this offense. We had 92 offensive snaps - moss played 16. On those he had the longest play of the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 3 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: We had 92 offensive snaps - moss played 16. On those he had the longest play of the day. And it's 16 too many quite frankly especially the drive that was killed giving him 2 straight pointless carries... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Wyobills89 said: I might be in the minority but I'd actually like to see Duke in a game. I mean he has had success in the league before. Duke is the new Yeldon/Breida. Saw that coming a mile away. These veteran RBs are going to learn to stop coming here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 Hey man, 43 yards is a long way to go with your eyes closed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 (edited) Frank Gore was a drive killing, complete 0 here and was my single point of aggravation in that 19 season….And McDermott was OBSESSED with dressing him and giving him high leverage carries. The coach simply can’t identify an effective RB Edited September 26, 2022 by Brianmoorman4jesus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 12 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: And it's 16 too many quite frankly especially the drive that was killed giving him 2 straight pointless carries... Right because rotating players yesterday made no sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 15 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: And it's 16 too many quite frankly especially the drive that was killed giving him 2 straight pointless carries... He had the longest play of the day... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 2 hours ago, freddyjj said: Not sure why he is that guy either. He missed the block on the S on the sack/strip of Josh. And on his long run, all I could think of was that's a long TD if Cook ran that same play. I thought the same thing about n the run. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted September 26, 2022 Share Posted September 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: Frank Gore was a drive killing, complete 0 here and was my single point of aggravation in that 19 season….And McDermott was OBSESSED with dressing him and giving him high leverage carries. The coach simply can’t identify an effective RB I keep getting flashbacks to Mike Tolbert up the middle for no gain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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