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44 minutes ago, gomper said:

His game management is horrible.  I know they hired someone last season to help, but that hasn't worked so far. They could have won this game. Hopefully it doesn't bite them like the Jacksonville loss did last. Plenty of blame to go around.  It starts at the top. Come January, he has to be better.  Unacceptable for a team this talented. 

With the amount of points left on the board "they could have won this game" alludes completely to the players.

 

So many points were left on the board by the players failing to execute. That's the main story of this game.

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2 hours ago, DCbillsfan said:

At the risk of being trashed, no I wouldn't trade for another coach.  BB is 70, Reid is one cheeseburger away from the big one, Harbaugh isn't leaving, and neither is McVay.  McD is a good coach and a good guy.  I wish he had Shakir active yesterday because they definitely could have used him.  Other than that, they were a lot of player mistakes yesterday.

IMO Kyle Shannahan is the best coach in the league, but has a very average GM in Lynch. I'd take him

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

 

5 of the last 7 defeats the Bills offense has had the ball at the end with the chance to win the game and in 4 of those 5 there were serious OL breakdowns that killed those drives. I listed them yesterday. You are going to have some close games in the NFL. It is the nature of the beast. Watch redzone every week. Games come down to the final drive. For a team with an elite QB to have the ball with a chance to win 5 times in 7 defeats and to go 0 fer is a major, major anomoly. And go and look at the play by plays. Protection, protection, protection. 

 

It was the biggest problem last year. It cost us the 1 seed. And it remains, I fear, a major weakness.

Then we better start drafting OL in the first 3 rounds rather than incessantly draft defensive players over olineman. We still struggle to run block and Josh was running for his life yesterday. 

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3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Then we better start drafting OL in the first 3 rounds rather than incessantly draft defensive players over olineman. We still struggle to run block and Josh was running for his life yesterday. 

how is this McDermott's fault

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10 hours ago, Einstein said:

 

But this ignores the point that poor coaching decisions put us in the position to need a last minute score.

 

- QB sneak at the goal line and we likely don’t need a last minute score

- Don’t waste a timeout on a PUNT and we likely have another 3 points (field goal before half time)

etc

 

I also have a hard time blaming the linemen at that point of the game. They were exhausted.

Watch the game again.  Oline was getting beat bad.  Early and often.  Spencer Brown was a turnstile.  It affected Allen's mental clock I.e. lack of time to go through his progressions.

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1 hour ago, GunnerBill said:

Thanks.  As I said, I hadn't read the thread when I jumped in.

 

That's good and helpful analysis.  I'm not sure yesterday quite counts, under the circumstances, but certainly a better oline performance would have won the game.  

 

I'll add, without knowing, that someone posted saying, well, there were three close games last year that the Bills took over late and won by enough that the final wasn't close.   Those were close games into the fourth quarter and the team DID respond well.  Which is not to say that isn't a problem that they aren't protecting josh or powering a running game consistently late in games.    But it may not be a huge problem.   Half of the players on the field on offense are linemen, so it shouldn't be exactly surprising that half of the losses may be attributable to the line.  I know that's a naively simplistic statistical tool, but it makes some sense.  

 

I still come back to the coaching.  In the fourth quarter the Dolphins had the plays they needed, play after play, on an six-play, four-minute drive to win the game.  The Bills had two drives after that and couldn't deliver.   They were first and goal at the two.   I don't care who you have up front.   These are professional football linemen, and in the right plays a good team will score from two yards out.  There are blocks that they can make, so those are the plays you call.   All kinds of players in that game missed plays that would have won the game, but on first and goal from the two, it's on the coaches.   

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On 9/25/2022 at 6:49 PM, Einstein said:

 

What a time to be alive. Anyone who has an opinion different than your own is a “troll”.


 

Nope - stupid Trolls are trolls as was stated before.

 

Real Einstein this one.

 

🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

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7 minutes ago, gomper said:

His game management is horrible.  I know they hired someone last season to help, but that hasn't worked so far. They could have won this game. Hopefully it doesn't bite them like the Jacksonville loss did last. Plenty of blame to go around.  It starts at the top. Come January, he has to be better.  Unacceptable for a team this talented. 

If he can't be good enough now...what makes you think there's any chance he's better in January? There's also the numerous failures these past few seasons as well

 

If we make it to and win the Super Bowl...luck will have been on our side. It won't be due to the coach making the right decisions.

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16 minutes ago, BeastMaster said:

If he can't be good enough now...what makes you think there's any chance he's better in January? There's also the numerous failures these past few seasons as well

 

If we make it to and win the Super Bowl...luck will have been on our side. It won't be due to the coach making the right decisions.

This I agree with. I'm just thinking that choking time and again might cajole him into better decisions in the moment down the road. 

 

The ironic part, for all his culture building, they may win it inspite of him. Levy's teams couldn't do it, maybe this one will.

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1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Then we better start drafting OL in the first 3 rounds rather than incessantly draft defensive players over olineman. We still struggle to run block and Josh was running for his life yesterday. 

 

People trash @ScottLaw and others like me for his takes, but some are coming around. No sense having a Bugatti engine behind a Ford Focus transmission and chassis. 5 years in and we have scrap heap parts at 3-4 OL positions. Dawkins is the only stud on OL. The lack of any running game should be an obvious sign to having a crap OL. Allen is amazing, but even he can not do it alone. Give the man some damned help.

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It’s interesting how when we lose it’s about poor coaching but when we win I rarely see a coaching thread?

 

Listen I get it, coaching made mistakes but overall they make a lot more right decisions. 
 

For whatever reason we’re on a stretch for losing close games. Players and coaches have made mistakes in these close games. 

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I’m sure this was all already covered. Just wanna say he had the perfect gameplay to mask the injuries on D. Play ball control. Eat up tons of clock. It all would have worked if not for a few miscues in the red zone/that horrid second series that led to the first Miami TD.

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1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said:

 

People trash @ScottLaw and others like me for his takes, but some are coming around. No sense having a Bugatti engine behind a Ford Focus transmission and chassis. 5 years in and we have scrap heap parts at 3-4 OL positions. Dawkins is the only stud on OL. The lack of any running game should be an obvious sign to having a crap OL. Allen is amazing, but even he can not do it alone. Give the man some damned help.

I’ve been touting this since the off-season…. Never  liked their approach/borderline negligence to the offense… And then trolled the past two weeks by the likes of @eballand @Royale with Cheese….. They still can’t run the ball, receivers still struggle to get separation and YAC, and now Tanner Gentry may get some meaningful snaps and Bobby Hart is set to start next week.😅

 

Just crossing my fingers Josh gets through the season with all the heavy lifting and is still performing at a high level come playoff time. 

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42 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

I’ve been touting this since the off-season…. Never  liked their approach/borderline negligence to the offense… And then trolled the past two weeks by the likes of @eballand @Royale with Cheese….. They still can’t run the ball, receivers still struggle to get separation and YAC, and now Tanner Gentry may get some meaningful snaps and Bobby Hart is set to start next week.😅

 

Just crossing my fingers Josh gets through the season with all the heavy lifting and is still performing at a high level come playoff time. 


Kumerow really hurt us out there when he had to fill in.  Did he do anything?  
 

How good are Rams WR beyond the 5 string?  The Chiefs?  Probably starter quality right?  Kumerow is our 5th option….

 

We don’t struggle to get separation.  Allen isn’t fitting tight balls on every throw.  We have open WR a lot.  McKenzie was pretty open in the endzone on 4th down….

 

Yeah we can’t run the ball, I can still see that.

 

You are a believer that you shouldn’t earn positions in camp if you perform.  Hart had a good camp and earned a back up spot.  He’s not a starter, he’s a back up.  Lets see if it translates in a game IF he plays.  Bates is a right guard and I believe Hart was playing LG in camp.

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I wont knock any poster for not liking a player or coach and I know we just had a heart breaking loss but lets look back to the times before McDermott got here, it was some dark times. No coach is perfect but to put all of the blame on McDermott is ridiculous, like the players say "we didn't make enough plays to win" and it's usually the truth imo. 

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7 hours ago, Wraith said:

 

This talking point I keep hearing is ridiculous and shows a complete lack of critical thinking. Winning a lot of games by a big margin and losing a few games by a small margin is what good teams do. It is how sports work. Not to mention the Bills actually won their share of close games last year too:

 

- Week 8: Bills were up 6 to Miami with under 4 minutes to go. Does not count to you because they took care of business and won by 15.

- Week 16: Bills were up 5 to New England with under 3 minutes to go. Does not count to you because of that crazy drive to seal the game and division lead.

- Week 18: Bills were up 3 to New York Jets with under 9 minutes to go. Ignored because they took over the game in the final minutes and pulled away.

 

Are we supposed to take serious your argument that the Bills would have been a better team if the offense didn't come through late to pull away in those games and instead they hung on by fewer points? It is nonsense.

 

 

I'd like to add on 7-7 at halftime against the Rams. What we did to them in the 2nd half was a clinic in excellent coaching. Like you point out close games aren't only defined by the final score.

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55 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:


Kumerow really hurt us out there when he had to fill in.  Did he do anything?  
 

How good are Rams WR beyond the 5 string?  The Chiefs?  Probably starter quality right?  Kumerow is our 5th option….

 

We don’t struggle to get separation.  Allen isn’t fitting tight balls on every throw.  We have open WR a lot.  McKenzie was pretty open in the endzone on 4th down….

 

Yeah we can’t run the ball, I can still see that.

 

You are a believer that you shouldn’t earn positions in camp if you perform.  Hart had a good camp and earned a back up spot.  He’s not a starter, he’s a back up.  Lets see if it translates in a game IF he plays.  Bates is a right guard and I believe Hart was playing LG in camp.

I’d guess they’ll be close to last in YAC yet again… and the offensive line is still a problem(even before the injuries) as it was for much of last year…. But that’s what happens when you essentially do the bare minimum to make it better… Perhaps Spencer Brown gets better throughout the season and learns how to pass block because he sucks at it like most of last season…. And Saffold looks old and washed. 

 

Hart blows. 

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