SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 When you make a ballsy call You are either a 🦸♀️ or a 🐐 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 2 hours ago, Motor26 said: Was absolutely beautiful to watch. You can even see Singletary go down at the 3 yard line at the end instead of going in for the TD. It was not quite perfect. Since it was third down, the correct analytics decison was to call the time with 8 seconds left, to allow for the possiblity of a bad snap or offensive penatly. The likelyhood of a penalty or bad snap is greater than the likelyhood of a kick off return for a TD with 3 ticks on the clock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 On 9/25/2022 at 4:17 PM, Bermuda Triangle said: McD should bring back Rex's Chaplain for challenge advice. Thank you for reminding me of the bad old days. The chaplain who was consulted on 4th down decisions like he was more of a voodoo priest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 16 hours ago, Chaos said: It was not quite perfect. Since it was third down, the correct analytics decison was to call the time with 8 seconds left, to allow for the possiblity of a bad snap or offensive penatly. The likelyhood of a penalty or bad snap is greater than the likelyhood of a kick off return for a TD with 3 ticks on the clock. Can you link those analytics - interested to see the data. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SACTOBILLSFAN Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 On 10/2/2022 at 5:43 PM, HappyDays said: We've been outstanding on 3rd down conversions since 2020. It is absolutely sustainable because we have a freak show QB. That being said your point about early downs is correct. Singletary is just okay, Moss is terrible, Cook has made too many mistakes to trust him. So I don't know if a solution is coming this season. Being this good on 3rd and long is not sustainable. We'll always be better than average because we have the best QB in football, but we will not be this much better than league average. Our first and second down play calling has been poor, being in 3rd and 6+ is not how you win long term, and the best way to minimize the regression is to not face 3rd downs as much as the rest of the league. For an example of this, just look at the final drive in Baltimore where the Bills face zero 3rd downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoTier Posted October 5, 2022 Share Posted October 5, 2022 19 hours ago, SACTOBILLSFAN said: Being this good on 3rd and long is not sustainable. We'll always be better than average because we have the best QB in football, but we will not be this much better than league average. Our first and second down play calling has been poor, being in 3rd and 6+ is not how you win long term, and the best way to minimize the regression is to not face 3rd downs as much as the rest of the league. For an example of this, just look at the final drive in Baltimore where the Bills face zero 3rd downs. If the Bills play calling is so bad on first and second down, how did they manage to have 0 third downs on their final drive against the Ravens? It seems to me that poor play calling would manifest itself most notably in pressure-packed situations with the game on the line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) This thread may be a bit more respected now. I created this thread even when we we’re winning because bad coaching decisions can quickly lead to losing games. You can’t just excuse it away because we won the particular game the bed decision happened in. Other teams start picking up on your bad coaching tendencies and they take advantage of it. We can turn this around and make a run, but coaching needs to be better. Go Bills. Edited November 13, 2022 by Einstein Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Einstein said: This thread may be a bit more respected now. It's not and you're not Coaching didn't lose this game, the guy throwing the ball did. Coaching had them in position to win multiple times, even with all the injuries. Edited November 13, 2022 by LeGOATski 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: It's not and you're not Coaching didn't lose this game, the guy throwing the ball did. Coaching had them in position to win multiple times, even with all the injuries. You don’t think we should have kicked the field goal, instead of sending your injured QB (who is also struggling in general) to try and convert 4th and goal? Not doubling Jefferson? Not calling any running plays in OT when the Vikings had 6 DB’s on the field? If not, then we can agree to disagree. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I don't think the coaching was good today. ESPECIALLY Dorsey. But Josh Allen has turned it over another 3 times. He cannot keep killing us like this. He is biggest reason for the last two defeat. Not good enough. All around. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 I noticed McDermott kind of threw Josh under the bus at the very start of his post-game PC...basically saying you can't win when you turn the ball over 4 times. It's not like him to point at specific reasons for losses.... It's usually all "WE" didn't do enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Einstein said: You don’t think we should have kicked the field goal, instead of sending your injured QB (who is also struggling in general) to try and convert 4th and goal? Not doubling Jefferson? Not calling any running plays in OT when the Vikings had 6 DB’s on the field? If not, then we can agree to disagree. It wasn't 4th and goal, it was 4th and two. A good way to lose respect is to demonstrate how you weren't even paying attention... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I noticed McDermott kind of threw Josh under the bus at the very start of his post-game PC...basically saying you can't win when you turn the ball over 4 times. It's not like him to point at specific reasons for losses.... It's usually all "WE" didn't do enough. Yes, I heard that too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: I noticed McDermott kind of threw Josh under the bus at the very start of his post-game PC...basically saying you can't win when you turn the ball over 4 times. It's not like him to point at specific reasons for losses.... It's usually all "WE" didn't do enough. Really? I swear McDermott has said that exact same thing like 4 or 5 other times since becoming HC. "You can't turn the ball over like that" is extremely standard coach speak. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, LeGOATski said: It wasn't 4th and goal, it was 4th and two. A good way to lose respect is to demonstrate how you weren't even paying attention... You’re right. I must of thought it was 4th and goal since EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE RECEIVING OPTION ran into the endzone. So much for only needing 2 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 (edited) If we were gonna go for it on 4th and 2, how do you not run Josh 3 times in that situation when it’s 2nd and 2? Edited November 13, 2022 by BuffaloRebound 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, Einstein said: You’re right. I must of thought it was 4th and goal since EVERY SINGLE OFFENSIVE RECEIVING OPTION ran into the endzone. So much for only needing 2 yards. The offensive plays called in that series were truly baffling. Like truly baffling. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted November 13, 2022 Author Share Posted November 13, 2022 1 minute ago, GunnerBill said: The offensive plays called in that series were truly baffling. Like truly baffling. You’re right and it almost feels like Dorsey has no “plan”. He isn’t playing chess and setting up the defense for the next play. It almost feels like he is just calling whatever card looks good on the Madden screen. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 McD is a great program-builder/turnaround expert. Do not believe he can win a championship in an 18-game season plus the playoffs with smart minds on the other side of the field. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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