RocCityRoller Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Why was Hyde in the game in the middle of the 4th quarter of a blow out game when the secondary is already injury riddled? 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Why was Hyde in the game in the middle of the 4th quarter of a blow out game when the secondary is already injury riddled? Happened with 5:22 left in 3rd quarter up 34-7 on the Milano pick 6 drive. It's a bummer but that's football. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehfeuh57 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Jaquon Johnson impressed in Preseason so at least thats good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Prayers for michae but it is next man up right now we got fish to squish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 3 hours ago, RocCityRoller said: Why was Hyde in the game in the middle of the 4th quarter of a blow out game when the secondary is already injury riddled? Simple answer, he wasn't. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 9 hours ago, Logic said: It's fine. The Dolphins don't pose any real threat to Buffalo's dominance of the division. Their defense is nowhere close to ours, and Tua is nowhere close to Allen. The 2022 Dolphins are just the drought era Bills, occasionally stringing together a few wins, getting some media attention, and saying "BRING ON THE PATS!". The Bills, meanwhile, are what the Pats were then -- an inevitable machine that just grinds onward, quietly crushing opponents, taking their souls, and showing them what pretenders they are. Let them and their fans be excited. The AFC East is the Bills' division for the foreseeable future. I think they are better than the drought era Bills. The drought era Bills never had a Tyreek Hill or a Jalen Waddle let alone two of them. I have thought they were probably a playoff team all along. They won 10 and 9 games the last two years and then added an elite playmaker, they are a legitimate team. But as for them contending for the division? Yea. I agree. I don't give them much of a shot at that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Pure speculation here, but if -IF- Micah’s 2nd opinion option is akin to Eric Wood’s 2nd opinion, (🙏) does this force management to pay the going rate for Poyer for a few years? Obviously, we have fine young players here ready to take the next step, but Hyde is a likely Ring of Honor candidate and critical to our team. Replacing him will be a huge challenge! Best Wishes, Micah! GET WELL SOON!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 15 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Pure speculation here, but if -IF- Micah’s 2nd opinion option is akin to Eric Wood’s 2nd opinion, (🙏) does this force management to pay the going rate for Poyer for a few years? Obviously, we have fine young players here ready to take the next step, but Hyde is a likely Ring of Honor candidate and critical to our team. Replacing him will be a huge challenge! Best Wishes, Micah! GET WELL SOON!! The 2nd opinion component could really be a multitude of things. Micah has had prior neck injuries. For all we know, he has his own specialist/therapist/etc that he consults with in the offseason re: his neck, and he wants that individual's opinion given the background/familiarity. m Bottom line, there will be several "markers" over the next few days: 1. today will likely reveal more if he's practicing in any capacity / or at least out with his teammates (ie: Dane yesterday). And any comments from Coach. 2. IR designation: team isn't going to wait around past this weekend, "IF" this is serious. No news is good news; likely means back within a few weeks. I think we will know more today, Micah is a team leader and think Coach will pass along more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2nd opinions are usually for bigger items, like the player wants surgery and team wants rehab or vice versa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagoon Blues Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 (edited) 18 hours ago, LabattBlue said: It would be interested to know what the teams trainers/doctors said, that made him want to get a 2nd opinion? I would guess it was pretty bad news. But I am a glass half empty guy. Edited September 23, 2022 by Lagoon Blues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanSD Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 48 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said: Pure speculation here, but if -IF- Micah’s 2nd opinion option is akin to Eric Wood’s 2nd opinion, (🙏) does this force management to pay the going rate for Poyer for a few years? Obviously, we have fine young players here ready to take the next step, but Hyde is a likely Ring of Honor candidate and critical to our team. Replacing him will be a huge challenge! Best Wishes, Micah! GET WELL SOON!! IMO, no. We have too many other guys at premium positions who either need to be extended/re-signed or who already have been. If I had to pick a position where we just "get by" with draft picks and mid-tier FAs indefinitely, it would be a) RB and b) safety. This is an unpleasant part of the business side of the league, but I think the right long-run move is to be ready to move on from Poyer and Hyde. Obviously these are two great guys who came along at just the right time for this franchise. I wish both of them well regardless of how things play out. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, BillsFanSD said: IMO, no. We have too many other guys at premium positions who either need to be extended/re-signed or who already have been. If I had to pick a position where we just "get by" with draft picks and mid-tier FAs indefinitely, it would be a) RB and b) safety. This is an unpleasant part of the business side of the league, but I think the right long-run move is to be ready to move on from Poyer and Hyde. Obviously these are two great guys who came along at just the right time for this franchise. I wish both of them well regardless of how things play out. I think there plan though was to stagger the loss. Let Jordan walk after this year, let a young guy learn from Micah and then let Micah move on a year later. Having to replace the pair of them as individuals and losing the amazing chemistry they have together in one go is almost like losing three players. If we end up in that place it is a hell of a job to try and replace them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 18 hours ago, LabattBlue said: It would be interested to know what the teams trainers/doctors said, that made him want to get a 2nd opinion? They probably told him to get a second opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Serious question for those who know. I'm not trying to be a doom and gloomer and hope for the best for MH. With that said... If it's the worst case scenario and MH has to retire, how does that affect the cap situation? Would it be some type of injury settlement or are the Bills still on the hook for his contract? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 34 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said: The 2nd opinion component could really be a multitude of things. Micah has had prior neck injuries. For all we know, he has his own specialist/therapist/etc that he consults with in the offseason re: his neck, and he wants that individual's opinion given the background/familiarity. m Bottom line, there will be several "markers" over the next few days: 1. today will likely reveal more if he's practicing in any capacity / or at least out with his teammates (ie: Dane yesterday). And any comments from Coach. 2. IR designation: team isn't going to wait around past this weekend, "IF" this is serious. No news is good news; likely means back within a few weeks. I think we will know more today, Micah is a team leader and think Coach will pass along more info. I can only think of two reasons a player would want a second opinion from a doctor: 1. The doctor gave him really bad news (season or career ending), and he wants to see if another specialist can fix the injury with less missed time on the field. 2. The doctor said everything was good to go, but he still feels like something isn't right physically and wants to double-check. It's hard for me to imagine a player getting a good report from the doctor, feeling great physically and still saying... "I need to miss practice this week and go get another opinion." Hopefully I'm wrong. But the vague way Sean McDermott apparently shut-down media questions about Hyde's absence yesterday also seemed really odd. My first thought was that something more serious was going on, and coach didn't want to talk about it. And that was before news broke about Hyde getting a second opinion. Of course this is all speculation, and maybe I'm just fearing the worst news. I'm getting post-Thanksgiving vibes, just like I did after we destroyed the Saints...but couldn't completely enjoy it, because of the coming bad news about Tre White's knee. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 Im guessing they found something similiar to what Eric Woods had to deal with But I'm guessing 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 16 minutes ago, phypon said: Serious question for those who know. I'm not trying to be a doom and gloomer and hope for the best for MH. With that said... If it's the worst case scenario and MH has to retire, how does that affect the cap situation? Would it be some type of injury settlement or are the Bills still on the hook for his contract? It depends on what the Bills want to do. If they cut him his dead cap is over $7M for 2023. My guess is they would try to do an injury settlement and keep him on the roster on IR for 2023 and then retire before 2024 season. Think this is what Eric Wood and Kam Chancellor did. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 51 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said: 2nd opinions are usually for bigger items, like the player wants surgery and team wants rehab or vice versa. Usually opposite tbh. Most seek second opinion when they want to play and team says they need surgery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Usually opposite tbh. Most seek second opinion when they want to play and team says they need surgery. OR like I mentioned above its a Eric Woods type of situation where it was recommended he hang them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 1 minute ago, Hebert19 said: Usually opposite tbh. Most seek second opinion when they want to play and team says they need surgery. Especially with the Bills...they seem to err very strongly on the side of player safety and making sure they are as healthy as possible once they are done playing football so they can live a good life. I get the sense Beane/McD really care about all of their players in ways many teams don't, and that doesn't go unnoticed by the players. Just now, ddaryl said: OR like I mentioned above its a Eric Woods type of situation where it was recommended he hang them up. Or Aaron Williams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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