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5 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said:


Judging actions in retrospect is stupid.

There’s a lot of dumb takes on here but this one is the dumbest. It’s professional football. We’d still have Doug Whaley steering our franchise to 6 win seasons if people weren’t judged on passed actions.

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2 minutes ago, Rampage said:

There’s a lot of dumb takes on here but this one is the dumbest. It’s professional football. We’d still have Doug Whaley steering our franchise to 6 win seasons if people weren’t judged on passed actions.


Sorry, but it's simple people that don't have the ability to consistently reproduce results that judge decisions based on what happened instead of the probability and a sound process.

You'll find a lot of company in people who like to play the lottery and slot machines with your line of thinking.

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1 hour ago, Rampage said:

The Jets absolutely fleeced Seattle. This has got to be one of the Top 5 worst trades in NFL history. Two number 1s and 20 million per season? Yikes!

 

The first in 2021 was Alijah Vera-Tucker.  They used the extra 3rd rounder (Plus their own 3rd rounder) to move up for him.  A lot to give up for a guard and he doesn't seem to be a very good guard at that.  Vikings drafted Darrisaw, Mond (who they released), and Wyatt Davis (who they released).  New regime clearly didn't see 3rd round value in those guys.  

 

Obviously Garrett Wilson is a rookie so who knows.  He's both fast and quick, but needs refinement (what rookie WR doesn't).  He should be the one to provide the Jets a "win" on this trade.  


Adams is who everyone thought - a primarily box safety who can tackle well but gets beat in coverage and doesn't have very good coverage instincts.  They used him a bit as a blitzer to some success.  

 

**WILDCARD**

The 4th rounder that the Seahawks got was Coby Bryant, and he appears to be a good fit for that defense and probably starts for them next year.  To me it would be hilarious and ironic if the throw in pick became the best player in the entire deal so that's what I'm rooting for 🙂

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2 hours ago, Rampage said:

The Jets absolutely fleeced Seattle. This has got to be one of the Top 5 worst trades in NFL history. Two number 1s and 20 million per season? Yikes!

Yes. great trade for the Jets.  Actually just letting him go as a free agent and not paying 20 millón would have been a good move.  Getting top draft picks back was a bonus 

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1 hour ago, BullBuchanan said:


Judging actions in retrospect is stupid.

I thought it was a terrible trade for Seattle at the time.  Two firsts for any non QB usually isn't a good deal and he wanted to be paid as the highest defensive player in the league (I think) and Adams is only an in the box safety.  My friend is from Seattle, he was not happy at the time and been fairly angry about it ever since.  It was quite obvious Seattle were going to have to let some of their homegrown players go because they could pay anyone and Russell Wilson had a big contract and many defensive players on their team did too.

 

It really was the beginning of the end for the Hawks!

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2 hours ago, BullBuchanan said:

Judging actions in retrospect is stupid.

 

It was an awful trade when they made it. He was a very limited player who gets confused when the ball is in the air. Given that it's been a passing league.. trading 2 1sts for safety that is really an undersized linebacker was stupid. Not to mention he made it very clear he wanted a new blockbuster contract.

 

Seahawks are a better team with him off the field. So giving him an insane contract to try to make the trade not look so bad was doubling down and could very well be a big part of the current regime in Seattle not being current for long. 

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