JohnNord Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) Here’s an interesting tidbit that I’ve never heard before. Tim Graham recently interviewed former NYC writer Bob Glauber who was close with the old NYG Teams I was a bit surprised to hear him say that Brandon Beane was a Bill Parcell guy. Earlier in the interview Glauber spoke about how even into his 80’s Parcells informally consults (for free) with teams because he loves the game. He then says that Brandon Beane is one of those GM’s who use Bill Parcells as a sounding board. Glauber cites the Parcells influence by stating that the Bills were built in an ”80’s/90’s old school way”. meaning that they started with the QB, built the OL, don’t draft for need etc and when they were close enough made the big move to trade for star a WR and sign a big time pass rusher. According to Glauber, Parcells was friends with Dan Henning in Carolina when Beane was a scout. They two hit it off and have been in contact since. Kind of an interesting story because while we’ve heard the influence of GM’s like Dave Gettleman and Marty Hurney, I have yet to see anyone else connect Parcells to Beane. Glauber claimed that Parcell’s imprint is on the way the Bills were built. Oddly enough Parcells is very close with the Elam family and to no surprise look who Beane’s pick this season was… you can hear this at 51:00. Edited September 14, 2022 by JohnNord 5 2 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Here’s an interesting tidbit that I’ve never heard before. Tim Graham recently interviewed former NYC writer Bob Glauber who was close with the old NYG Teams I was a bit surprised to hear him say that Brandon Beane was a Bill Parcell guy. Earlier in the interview Glauber spoke about how even into his 80’s Parcells informally consults (for free) with teams because he loves the game. He then says that Brandon Beane is one of those GM’s who use Bill Parcells as a sounding board. Glauber cites the Parcells influence by stating that the Bills were built in an ”80’s/90’s old school way”. meaning that they started with the QB, built the OL, don’t draft for need etc and when they were close enough made the big move to trade for star a WR and sign a big time pass rusher. According to Glauber, Parcells was friends with Dan Henning in Carolina when Beane was a scout. They two hit it off and have been in contact since. Kind of an interesting story because while we’ve heard the influence of GM’s like Dave Gettleman and Marty Hurney, I have yet to see anyone else connect Parcells to Beane. Glauber claimed that Parcell’s imprint is on the way the Bills were built. Oddly enough Parcells is very close with the Elam family and to no surprise look who Beane’s pick this season was… you can hear this at 51:00. "Glauber cites the Parcells influence by stating that the Bills were built in an ”80’s/90’s old school way”. meaning that they started with the QB, built the OL, don’t draft for need etc and when they were close enough made the big move to trade for star a WR and sign a big time pass rusher. " What teams don't build this way? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JohnNord said: Here’s an interesting tidbit that I’ve never heard before. Tim Graham recently interviewed former NYC writer Bob Glauber who was close with the old NYG Teams I was a bit surprised to hear him say that Brandon Beane was a Bill Parcell guy. Earlier in the interview Glauber spoke about how even into his 80’s Parcells informally consults (for free) with teams because he loves the game. He then says that Brandon Beane is one of those GM’s who use Bill Parcells as a sounding board. Glauber cites the Parcells influence by stating that the Bills were built in an ”80’s/90’s old school way”. meaning that they started with the QB, built the OL, don’t draft for need etc and when they were close enough made the big move to trade for star a WR and sign a big time pass rusher. According to Glauber, Parcells was friends with Dan Henning in Carolina when Beane was a scout. They two hit it off and have been in contact since. Kind of an interesting story because while we’ve heard the influence of GM’s like Dave Gettleman and Marty Hurney, I have yet to see anyone else connect Parcells to Beane. Glauber claimed that Parcell’s imprint is on the way the Bills were built. Oddly enough Parcells is very close with the Elam family and to no surprise look who Beane’s pick this season was… you can hear this at 51:00. Gettlenutz was a Giants/Parcells guy. And John Fox. That's how Henning ended up there. Beane was never a scout and had very little personnel experience prior to getting hired by the Bills. He might have scouted coffee shops. A director of football ops is a guy who makes sure all kind of organizational details get taken care of. His last couple years in Carolina he got to dabble in talent evaluation. Edited September 14, 2022 by BADOLBILZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, FireChans said: "Glauber cites the Parcells influence by stating that the Bills were built in an ”80’s/90’s old school way”. meaning that they started with the QB, built the OL, don’t draft for need etc and when they were close enough made the big move to trade for star a WR and sign a big time pass rusher. " What teams don't build this way? The Bills from circa 1997-2017? 🤷 14 1 6 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Breakout Squad said: The Bills from circa 1997-2017? 🤷 Lol you're right. I meant good teams. Team building is easy. QB - passrusher - WR - OL- CB Get top tier talent at as many of those positions as possible. ???? Superbowl Edited September 14, 2022 by FireChans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Breakout Squad said: The Bills from circa 1997-2017? 🤷 LMFAO! Outstanding post! 1 hour ago, JohnNord said: Here’s an interesting tidbit that I’ve never heard before. Tim Graham recently interviewed former NYC writer Bob Glauber who was close with the old NYG Teams I was a bit surprised to hear him say that Brandon Beane was a Bill Parcell guy. Earlier in the interview Glauber spoke about how even into his 80’s Parcells informally consults (for free) with teams because he loves the game. He then says that Brandon Beane is one of those GM’s who use Bill Parcells as a sounding board. Glauber cites the Parcells influence by stating that the Bills were built in an ”80’s/90’s old school way”. meaning that they started with the QB, built the OL, don’t draft for need etc and when they were close enough made the big move to trade for star a WR and sign a big time pass rusher. According to Glauber, Parcells was friends with Dan Henning in Carolina when Beane was a scout. They two hit it off and have been in contact since. Kind of an interesting story because while we’ve heard the influence of GM’s like Dave Gettleman and Marty Hurney, I have yet to see anyone else connect Parcells to Beane. Glauber claimed that Parcell’s imprint is on the way the Bills were built. Oddly enough Parcells is very close with the Elam family and to no surprise look who Beane’s pick this season was… you can hear this at 51:00. Very interesting; nice write up. Thanks! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 1 hour ago, FireChans said: Lol you're right. I meant good teams. Team building is easy. QB - passrusher - WR - OL- CB Get top tier talent at as many of those positions as possible. ???? Superbowl The bills didn't go qb first though, they traded Mahomes for White and then traded a bunch of players for assets, and used those to trade up for Allen the next year. I know Beane joined after the draft, and you would have a point that the team didn't actually start rebuilding until Beane joined. To me there is a huge component in looking for and exploiting value. Allen's lack of coaching, being incredibly smart, being off the charts dedicated and showing he could throw with touch in the Senior bowl after a week of nfl coaching... this really wasn't that difficult of a choice if you had the information and valued the right things. I don't have a point I don't think, or maybe I do. I haven't slept more than three hours in a night since Friday night, I'm up again and I'm losing my mind a bit 🙃 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 I met Bill Parcells one training camp for the patriots I had a friend at work for Raytheon down in Cape Cod and used to take me to patriots training camp a couple times a year one particular year a slim down Bill Parcells the fans were calling him the eel Stop by to talk to season-ticket holders and I talk to him for a bit and extremely intelligent person who knew how to relate to players 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, FireChans said: What teams don't build this way? 6 hours ago, FireChans said: Team building is easy. QB - passrusher - WR - OL- CB Get top tier talent at as many of those positions as possible. ???? Superbowl You're on a roll... To the OP, thanks for posting this, Edited September 14, 2022 by Sierra Foothills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 5 hours ago, John from Riverside said: I met Bill Parcells one training camp for the patriots I had a friend at work for Raytheon down in Cape Cod and used to take me to patriots training camp a couple times a year one particular year a slim down Bill Parcells the fans were calling him the eel Stop by to talk to season-ticket holders and I talk to him for a bit and extremely intelligent person who knew how to relate to players Like referring to Terry Glenn as ‘she’? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haslett_Stomp Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: Like referring to Terry Glenn as ‘she’? Classic Tuna. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 8 hours ago, HardyBoy said: The bills didn't go qb first though, they traded Mahomes for White and then traded a bunch of players for assets, and used those to trade up for Allen the next year. I know Beane joined after the draft, and you would have a point that the team didn't actually start rebuilding until Beane joined. To me there is a huge component in looking for and exploiting value. Allen's lack of coaching, being incredibly smart, being off the charts dedicated and showing he could throw with touch in the Senior bowl after a week of nfl coaching... this really wasn't that difficult of a choice if you had the information and valued the right things. I don't have a point I don't think, or maybe I do. I haven't slept more than three hours in a night since Friday night, I'm up again and I'm losing my mind a bit 🙃 So if you want to look at some teams that have tried, and had varying degrees of success team building, they all kind of do the same thing. It will never be exactly the same, because teams are never the same. Chicago got Mitch, then went after Allen Robinson and Khalil Mack. The Chargers don't need to make a splash for WR like the Bills did after 2019. Because they have Keenan Allen and Mike Williams. But they did make a splash for a pass rusher. Oakland went out and got Adams and Jones. The Cowboys had Demarcus Lawrence and went out and got Amari. Then they got CeeDee and Micah Parsons. I am of the belief that your goal as a GM is acquire blue chips at QB/pass rusher/WR/CB and no horrible deficiencies anywhere else and you've done a good enough job to win a Super Bowl. And most GM's feel the same way, which is why those positions are the 4 highest paid and have the highest trade or draft value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said: Like referring to Terry Glenn as ‘she’? Yep Curtis Martin was the darling of the team Edited September 14, 2022 by John from Riverside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayboy54 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Timmy Graham either completely made this crap up, or somebody's pulling his leg. The only thing Beane did with Bill Parcells lately is deliver his Meals On Wheels and tell him, "Have a good day." 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddaryl Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 10 hours ago, FireChans said: "Glauber cites the Parcells influence by stating that the Bills were built in an ”80’s/90’s old school way”. meaning that they started with the QB, built the OL, don’t draft for need etc and when they were close enough made the big move to trade for star a WR and sign a big time pass rusher. " What teams don't build this way? We see teams draft for need, and make rediculous FA signings... So I would say a significant amount don't stay true to the discipline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 Beane doesn't draft for need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Coach Tuesday said: Beane doesn't draft for need? He drafts best player available and if that happens to be a need, he will trade up for the player. Just like he did with Elam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: He drafts best player available and if that happens to be a need, he will trade up for the player. Just like he did with Elam Yeah no. Certainly in the second round he drafts for need. Arguably in other rounds as well, but he's willing to move around the board if he can so that his perceived need more closely aligns with value. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 10 hours ago, FireChans said: Lol you're right. I meant good teams. Team building is easy. QB - passrusher - WR - OL- CB Get top tier talent at as many of those positions as possible. ???? Superbowl So easy that 31 highly knowledgeable GMs fail every year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted September 14, 2022 Share Posted September 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: He drafts best player available and if that happens to be a need, he will trade up for the player. Just like he did with Elam Do you find it curious that in 2020 and 2021 our biggest need was pass rusher and we drafted 3 DE’s in the top 3 rounds? Or that in 2022 our biggest need was CB and we got one in the first? Or that our weakest offensive skill position has been RB and we have drafted 3 of them in the top 3 rounds over the last 4 years? 2 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: So easy that 31 highly knowledgeable GMs fail every year The strategy is easy. Executing it is not. 31 GMs HAVE to fail every year. Everyone can’t win the Super Bowl lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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