MNF: Broncos at Seahawks

[The Frankish Reich]

4 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

Finally on Denver they were yet another team that looked sloppy and undisciplined in week one. Ultimately coaching won this game for Seattle. They are less talented than the Broncos but fair play to Pete and his staff, they had their guys more ready to play. I still think ultimately Seattle is going to be a bottom 5 team this year, but Pete hasn't forgotten to coach

That’s it. Broncos: multiple penalties of the “we’re not prepared” variety, including 2 (and it should have been more) delay of games. Plus nothing resembling a 2 minute offense, hence the total lack of faith in the offense to get the ball into normal FG position. It’s tough to lose an opener against a team that really looks like it’s built to draft Bryce Young. 

[The Frankish Reich]

8 hours ago, Albany,n.y. said:

Brandon, you're delusional.  That may be your line to get to in Denver's thin air, but you weren't in Denver.  No player in NFL history has ever kicked a ball that far in an outdoor stadium that is not in Denver, and that was only done once in Denver.  So your line was a ridiculous overreach.  . 

Part of being a head coach is knowing the difference between what a player believes he’s capable of doing and what he’s actually, realistically capable of in a real game situation. “McManus was making them from 65 in pregame warmups” is like “my first

baseman hit a dozen homers in batting practice.”

[May Day 10]

How are teams this sloppy for week 1?  I dont recall such a plague in the past.  Like 75% of the league, especially on offense, were just not ready.

 

The Patriots dropped a really critical divisional game against a potential wild card rival... and I see fans shrugging it off as no big deal because preseason is truncated.  

[Giuseppe Tognarelli]

11 hours ago, PetermansRedemption said:

I’ll have to see a larger sample size. He was absolutely awful in his 3-4 starts last season. If he continues like this, absolutely. 

I think you're misremembering. He was pretty good. 5 TD, 1 INT, passer rating over 100

[FireChans]

21 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

How are teams this sloppy for week 1?  I dont recall such a plague in the past.  Like 75% of the league, especially on offense, were just not ready.

 

The Patriots dropped a really critical divisional game against a potential wild card rival... and I see fans shrugging it off as no big deal because preseason is truncated.  

Every year.

 

The Bills lost to the Steelers week 1 last year.

Edited September 13, 2022 by FireChans

[Bruffalo]

46 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

How are teams this sloppy for week 1?  I dont recall such a plague in the past.  Like 75% of the league, especially on offense, were just not ready.

 

The Patriots dropped a really critical divisional game against a potential wild card rival... and I see fans shrugging it off as no big deal because preseason is truncated.  

Teams are sloppy every year but Patriots fans are just in denial.  They don't know how to deal with being mediocre to bad, and all signs are pointing that this will probably the Patriots' worst season in a long time. 

[Brand J]

Memo to teams: play your starters in the preseason.

[May Day 10]

32 minutes ago, FireChans said:

Every year.

 

The Bills lost to the Steelers week 1 last year.

 

I get that...  but I walked away thinking the Steelers were just strong with the pass-rush and were opportunistic.  The Bills also got a bit unlucky... blocked punt too, but that was a trademark of Haaeck's slow delivery.  

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

54 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:

That’s it. Broncos: multiple penalties of the “we’re not prepared” variety, including 2 (and it should have been more) delay of games. Plus nothing resembling a 2 minute offense, hence the total lack of faith in the offense to get the ball into normal FG position. It’s tough to lose an opener against a team that really looks like it’s built to draft Bryce Young. 

 

2 minutes left - you get the 1st and 10 on your side of the field.  Either hurry up, or call timeout to call a couple of plays.  Instead they ran like 30 seconds off the clock, seattle jumped the snap count for the like 40th time in the game, and they lost 4 yards.  The next play was a quick pass incompletion, and the 3rd and 14 play was a swing pass behind the LOS.  4th and 5 with a minute left from the +46?  

 

Terrible clock management.  Terrible use of timeouts.  Terrible play calling. 

 

2 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

I get that...  but I walked away thinking the Steelers were just strong with the pass-rush and were opportunistic.  The Bills also got a bit unlucky... blocked punt too, but that was a trademark of Haaeck's slow delivery.  

 

Big Ben had a couple of nice throws in that game.  I think over the course of a season his arm would get worse.  

[FireChans]

4 minutes ago, May Day 10 said:

 

I get that...  but I walked away thinking the Steelers were just strong with the pass-rush and were opportunistic.  The Bills also got a bit unlucky... blocked punt too, but that was a trademark of Haaeck's slow delivery.  

The point still stands, sloppy play.

[C.Biscuit97]

Honestly, that was the Seahawks supper bowl. Good for them. Hackett and their red zone offense was terrible. But that team has a lot of talent and should be dangerous.

 

also that revenge Baker-Wilson parlay 🤮

[HOUSE]

The poor Denver fans. They looked so good in preseason too. 

[FilthyBeast]

You really have to wonder if Nate Hackett is in over his head. Just seemed to look really lost and confused the whole game.

 

Pressure is going to ramp up quickly if the Broncos lose again this week and continue to look sloppy with questionable coaching decisions. And to be honest I think they probably should have given Fangio another year especially with a viable QB option in Wilson.

[inkman]

8 hours ago, GunnerBill said:

 

God I do not miss Nathanial Hackett's playcalling. 2013 flashbacks all over the place. The first down incomplete, 2nd down run up the gut for 1.... he specialises in it. 

He was bad at SU, bad in Buffalo and still sucks.  Teams need to stop hiring coordinators that have Hall of Fame players leading their unit.  Just like Josh is Buffalo’s offense, Aaron is GBs offense.  The only thing I can imagine is that Elway thought he’d get Rodgers with Hackett.  Whoops.  Maybe next season. 

[The Frankish Reich]

24 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

You really have to wonder if Nate Hackett is in over his head. Just seemed to look really lost and confused the whole game.

Agreed. Maybe he’ll come around. Being a head coach/CEO/whatever is just not the same as being the lead assistant, so it may take time. McDermott was mocked as McClappy back in those first couple years, and he’s grown into being a rock of stability. 
But no, I didn’t like the hire. The Broncos 2022 are not the Bills 2017. The rookie McDermott Bills had a shock playoff season, but everyone knew this was a team trying to build for true contender status in 3 or so years. The 2022 Broncs should be in win now mode with their 33 year old QB and a lot of talent in its prime/cost-controlled years. An excitable rookie coach like Hackett was just the wrong choice. As others have said, he was Rodgers bait, not the best overall choice. 

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

52 minutes ago, FireChans said:

The point still stands, sloppy play.

 

8 penalties, 4 fumbles, missed tackles.  A lot of the same crap Denver had in this game. 

34 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

You really have to wonder if Nate Hackett is in over his head. Just seemed to look really lost and confused the whole game.

 

Pressure is going to ramp up quickly if the Broncos lose again this week and continue to look sloppy with questionable coaching decisions. And to be honest I think they probably should have given Fangio another year especially with a viable QB option in Wilson.

 

There's talent there.  The offensive line is not inherently bad.  But when every snap comes up at 1, they jump that snap count.  The pre-snap motion reminded me of Roman.  It's there, but it really never amounts to anything - and you never have enough time to even do it.

[DrDawkinstein]

 

 

LOL, Melvin, maybe dont fumble on the goal line AGAIN. Maybe worry about your own coach. And the Super Bowl isnt in play for either of you.

 

 

37 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

You really have to wonder if Nate Hackett is in over his head. Just seemed to look really lost and confused the whole game.

 

Pressure is going to ramp up quickly if the Broncos lose again this week and continue to look sloppy with questionable coaching decisions. And to be honest I think they probably should have given Fangio another year especially with a viable QB option in Wilson.

 

You dont have to wonder. He absolutely is in over his head. He was in over his head as the floundering OC in SYRACUSE.

 

If anyone ever wonders about why the NFL needs to implement rules that force teams to expand their coaching searches, look no further than the nepotism that has allowed HACKett to fail his way upwards from high school waterboy to NFL Head Coach simply because of his daddy. This dude has done nothing to earn his position, and should have been banished from the league after the Jags stint.

 

If Denver is smart, they'll one-and-done him. Blame it on the new ownership. This chump is not their answer.

 

[Warcodered]

3 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

LOL, Melvin, maybe dont fumble on the goal line AGAIN. Maybe worry about your own coach. And the Super Bowl isnt in play for either of you.

Yeah, I'm sure either one of these two teams are a likely contender to make it to that game.

 

[DrDawkinstein]

1 minute ago, Warcodered said:

Yeah, I'm sure either one of these two teams are a likely contender to make it to that game.

 

 

With it being another 4 years away, I doubt Gordon will ever play Seattle again in his career.

[FilthyBeast]

59 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said:

 

 

LOL, Melvin, maybe dont fumble on the goal line AGAIN. Maybe worry about your own coach. And the Super Bowl isnt in play for either of you.

 

 

 

You dont have to wonder. He absolutely is in over his head. He was in over his head as the floundering OC in SYRACUSE.

 

If anyone ever wonders about why the NFL needs to implement rules that force teams to expand their coaching searches, look no further than the nepotism that has allowed HACKett to fail his way upwards from high school waterboy to NFL Head Coach simply because of his daddy. This dude has done nothing to earn his position, and should have been banished from the league after the Jags stint.

 

If Denver is smart, they'll one-and-done him. Blame it on the new ownership. This chump is not their answer.

 

 

Obviously one game doesn't make a career and to his credit he has had a lot of success as an assistant especially in Jax under Marrone when a Blake Bortles led Jaguars team was within a few minutes of a SB if not blowing a lead against the patriots in Foxboro.

 

Also think he was a key part of the Packers success the last few years with Rogers being back to back MVP.

 

Time will tell what happens in Denver but I do agree he could be one and done there if they don't make the playoffs because that is the minimum expectation there after going out and getting Russ Wilson.