TheFunPolice Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Elam has done very well I think. Now imagine White, Elam and Benford all healthy at one time on the field... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 On 9/27/2022 at 2:58 PM, ArtVandalay said: Singletary isn't even in the same stratosphere as Breece Hall. Come on dude. Hall has 21 total yards more(291 vs 270) and an additional TD(2 vs 1) with 2 more touches(53 vs 51) than Singletary. Through 4 games that's about as close as it gets. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 15 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Elam has done very well I think. Now imagine White, Elam and Benford all healthy at one time on the field... I think Jackson is the number 2 opposite Tre when he comes back. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, Big Turk said: I think Jackson is the number 2 opposite Tre when he comes back. Yeah, I was going to mention him. Having Tre, Dane and Kair, and don't forget about Taron, and you have a strong secondary. It will allow Benford more time to heal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just now, Doc said: Yeah, I was going to mention him. Having Tre, Dane and Kair, and don't forget about Taron, and you have a strong secondary. It will allow Benford more time to heal. Taron is a defacto starter since the Bills are in nickel the vast majority of the time as their base defense, and he is one of the best nickel corners in the NFL... Noticed him on Andrews a bunch yesterday...he had a pretty quiet day 2 for 15 yards...after Hill was limited to 2 for 33. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 24 minutes ago, TheFunPolice said: Elam has done very well I think. Now imagine White, Elam and Benford all healthy at one time on the field... Is Benford a Safety in your scenario? He looks too good to keep off the field, and - as good as he looks - I think he's 4th in the outside CB pecking order once everyone is healthy. Not sure if there's precedent to convert a guy mid-season, but might make sense to start having him practice at Safety over the bye week to see if he can unseat Hamlin/Johnson as the guy opposite Poyer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, SCBills said: Not sure if there's precedent to convert a guy mid-season, but might make sense to start having him practice at Safety over the bye week to see if he can unseat Hamlin/Johnson as the guy opposite Poyer. I don't understand this thinking at all. Hamlin and Johnson have been in the Bills system for years and have filled in admirably when called upon. I don't see any situation where Benford unseats them, especially this season. Now, if you want to start converting Benford to serve as a backup to these guys in case of further injury, then I get that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 I’m sensing a pattern from the OP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magox Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 This team is absolutely loaded at the DB spot. White, Jackson, Benford, Elam and Taron. That probably is the best 5 CB combo in the league and when you look at the safeties it's the same, Hyde, Poyer, Hamlin and Johnson. We are stacked with DB's which is why we can have multiple injuries on this front and still perform at a high level. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 No!! Next question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaattMaann Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 12 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said: I don't understand this thinking at all. Hamlin and Johnson have been in the Bills system for years and have filled in admirably when called upon. I don't see any situation where Benford unseats them, especially this season. Now, if you want to start converting Benford to serve as a backup to these guys in case of further injury, then I get that. This is what I think the plan has been for Benford since we drafted him. I think he just played so well at CB to start that they had to get him on the field. Long term I think he is viewed as a safety replacement for Hyde/Poyer. And I would imagine that transition starts this season (in practice). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Magox said: This team is absolutely loaded at the DB spot. White, Jackson, Benford, Elam and Taron. That probably is the best 5 CB combo in the league and when you look at the safeties it's the same, Hyde, Poyer, Hamlin and Johnson. We are stacked with DB's which is why we can have multiple injuries on this front and still perform at a high level. It seems that pretty much everyone the Bills put in at DB performs well. I believe it starts with them being exceptional at finding players who fit their scheme well which then allows to perform at a high level when they are forced into action, even when they don't have much experience. These players might not be the "best" in terms of overall talent, but they are perfect fits for what the Bills need them to do. Edited October 3, 2022 by Big Turk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeF Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 DBs develop fast under McDermott, Frazier, Butler and Salgado (Safeties Coach)....the injuries suck, but man oh man, the Bills are going to have a plethora of options at CB by the time December and January roll around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: Hall has 21 total yards more(291 vs 270) and an additional TD(2 vs 1) with 2 more touches(53 vs 51) than Singletary. Through 4 games that's about as close as it gets. So you are comparing the stats of the first 4 games of a rookie's career on a garbage offense vs those of a 4th year vet mid prime on the highest powered offense in football, he's still ahead, and that proves a point? Look at their talentc and athletic profile. Singletary can't hold a candle to Hall. Singletary is one of the least athletic starting RBs in the entire league... Hall is a physical specimen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 1 minute ago, ArtVandalay said: So you are comparing the stats of the first 4 games of a rookie's career on a garbage offense vs those of a 4th year vet mid prime on the highest powered offense in football, he's still ahead, and that proves a point? Look at their talentc and athletic profile. Singletary can't hold a candle to Hall. Singletary is one of the least athletic starting RBs in the entire league... Hall is a physical specimen. Why not? You're comparing a RB who was selected early in the 2nd round(36th) and the first RB off the board with a RB drafted in the middle of the 3rd round(74th) and the 5th RB drafted that year. RB is not a position you need time to become good when your considered the top RB of your class. Plug and play. Devin's also at a disadvantage running behind this offensive line. A line no one's been able to run behind over the last 3-4 years not named Josh Allen. Running is an after thought here and is mostly done on obvious running downs. Point is their stats are nearly identical. FYI....Have you watched any Jets games this year, cause by your description of their offense it doesn't appear you that you have and you're going off old information. Their offense ranks 8th this year, only 5 slots behind us. That's far from being garbage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dukestreetking Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Apologies for double posting, but I earlier put this in @Virgil thread. Seems relevant here: Kaiir Elam vs Ravens: 43 coverage snaps 1 target 0 receptions allowed The Bills rookie CB was LOCKDOWN. (Twitter: NFL rookie watch) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, PaattMaann said: This is what I think the plan has been for Benford since we drafted him. I think he just played so well at CB to start that they had to get him on the field. Long term I think he is viewed as a safety replacement for Hyde/Poyer. And I would imagine that transition starts this season (in practice). Why would they do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 3 hours ago, Magox said: This team is absolutely loaded at the DB spot. White, Jackson, Benford, Elam and Taron. That probably is the best 5 CB combo in the league and when you look at the safeties it's the same, Hyde, Poyer, Hamlin and Johnson. We are stacked with DB's which is why we can have multiple injuries on this front and still perform at a high level. 👍🏻 McD and Frazier are DB masterminds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 This guy has been shutting it down completely 2 games in a row 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 3, 2022 Share Posted October 3, 2022 Just wait until this dude gets burned once. People will be jumping out of the woodwork with their concerns citing stuff from training camp. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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