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Dr.Sack Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 Allen would likely need all the following: in his control: *Win out and perhaps be dominant in his level of play weather aside **meaning beat Burrow another MVP candidate head to head ***Secure #1 home field for playoffs over Mahomes another QB he beat head to head ****Limit turnovers - 2 tops ****produce at least 8 more touchdowns (rushing + passing) Outside his control: *Hurts and Eagles play sloppy down the stretch and lose to Cowboys, and 1 other game *Justin Jefferson and Vikings continue to slide *Mahomes has another Denver level game with 3 picks *Parsons and Cowboys beat Eagles but lose to Jacksonville or another NFC opponent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, Dr.Sack said: Allen would likely need all the following: in his control: *Win out and perhaps be dominant in his level of play weather aside **meaning beat Burrow another MVP candidate head to head ***Secure #1 home field for playoffs over Mahomes another QB he beat head to head ****Limit turnovers - 2 tops ****produce at least 8 more touchdowns (rushing + passing) Outside his control: *Hurts and Eagles play sloppy down the stretch and lose to Cowboys, and 1 other game *Justin Jefferson and Vikings continue to slide *Mahomes has another Denver level game with 3 picks *Parsons and Cowboys beat Eagles but lose to Jacksonville or another NFC opponent Hurts is probably the only player Allen can’t over come. I think Allen would need to do far better than 8 TD’s in the final 4 games. That’s only 2 per game. Allen averages 2 TD’s per game in his sleep. If the Bills win out and he puts up 10 -12 TD’s in doing so I think he would be second to only Hurts. You can’t overstate having the one seed plus wins against Mahomes and Burrow. A lot will hinge on the Bengals game. The winner of that game likely moves up pretty even with Mahomes in the MVP odds entering the final week but still well behind Hurts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 17 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Hurts is probably the only player Allen can’t over come. I think Allen would need to do far better than 8 TD’s in the final 4 games. That’s only 2 per game. Allen averages 2 TD’s per game in his sleep. If the Bills win out and he puts up 10 -12 TD’s in doing so I think he would be second to only Hurts. You can’t overstate having the one seed plus wins against Mahomes and Burrow. A lot will hinge on the Bengals game. The winner of that game likely moves up pretty even with Mahomes in the MVP odds entering the final week but still well behind Hurts. All good points. For Hurts I see the Eagles getting beat at Dallas. If Hurts sucks in that game, gets blown out, is exposed/‘figured out’, throws 3-4 picks that opens the door for Allen. If Hurts blows any other game then the door is wide open. Allen’s case would be I have the strongest strength of schedule, road wins at Mahomes and Burrow, less receiver quality than the other top 3 Hurts, Mahomes or Burrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 NFL network postgame saying maybe this was Josh Allen's MVP moment, so maybe he isn't dead? 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 He's MVP. Just get the 1 seed and score the most TD in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 If you're going by truly MVP it has to be Allen. The other candidates have stronger teams, he's the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 If Allwn has 3 more games like tonight, it will happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Time after time he carries this offense on his back. How many more drops this game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 1 minute ago, bobobonators said: Time after time he carries this offense on his back. How many more drops this game? 3 or 3 tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Josh is going to have better overall stats than he did in 2020. More yards and more total TD's, but a lower completion percentage. If he has a big game in a win against Cincy, head to head against Burrow, and we take home the 1 in the AFC? I think he wins it. The Bills schedule has been ill, #2 in the league. We're still winning and Josh is coming up clutch every week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 This guy I follow on Twitter has it exactly right: Here's how I would put it - the Dolphins very clearly had the better offensive weapons, OL, and offensive coaching tonight. But the gap between Tua (who played decently) and Allen is so great that it more than made up that difference. Having an MVP level QB is a cheat code. 4 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Add 1 game winning drive and 4th Qtr comeback to the 2022 resume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 If the eye test plays and passing stats weren't enough - could easily hit 4600 yards and 38 td through the air - he's on pace to put up 850 and 8 on the ground for his best rushing season ever. His ypc increased again and is now at a career high level after this game as well. He's got to be back at the front of the discussion there's nobody like him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelius Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Just now, NUT said: I don't think Vegas will see it that way. I know the award is supposed to be how valuable a player is to the team, but the award doesn't reflect that anymore. It's just a best QB season award. But a couple more games like this and he'll have the most eye-popping stats as well. I'm sure there are some daily fantasy sport nerd ratios that others may excel at, but if he finishes the season with 4600-38td, and 850-8 on the ground? Hurts might get close but nobody else is doing that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DapperCam Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Allen has too many turnovers unfortunately. We all know he completely carries the #2 offense in the league, with one of the toughest strength of schedules. But the people who vote on this just look at box scores and Hurts will have the efficiency stats as long as he doesn't have any stinker games. Hurts is asked to do a fraction of what Allen is asked to do, but that doesn't really matter. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Bears have zero pass rush and are a dream matchup for Allen. Chance to beat the Bengals which basically clinches the 1 seed, and the Patriots who are Allen's b****. Hmmmmm. It's still a long shot but he could easily get 10+ TDs these last few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 Did Josh surpass Marino for the most TDs in a player's first 5 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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