Jauronimo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 How're we feeling about this Dline in week 11? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: How're we feeling about this Dline in week 11? I think they need to invest some more high draft picks in the DL 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HopelessNJBuffaloFan Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 30 minutes ago, dorquemada said: I think they need to invest some more high draft picks in the DL Or maybe some more RB's that we wont utilize 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Jauronimo said: How're we feeling about this Dline in week 11? Maybe our OL (in training camp) and the Rams OL made the Dline appear more “dominant” than it is? I still think it is a very good Dline when everyone is healthy. Don’t know if all the stats and expert opinions back it up, but from the untrained eye, I’m disappointed in the run defense of late and that more guys outside of Von and Rousseau seemingly haven’t been wreaking havoc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Jauronimo said: How're we feeling about this Dline in week 11? They went from dominant to good. They are still a strength but in the first weeks they looked elite. Is it only injuries or something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Quantity not quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Jauronimo said: How're we feeling about this Dline in week 11? #2 in the NFL for points given up/game. #7 in rushing yards given up/game. #14 in passing yards give up/game. I feel good about this Dline. 0-3 of our losses can be pinned on them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Jauronimo said: How're we feeling about this Dline in week 11? Pretty good, actually. The interior is strong. Oliver, Settle, Jones and Phillips have been stout and disruptive. The edge, when healthy, can be game changing. Vonn and Groot are a great tandem. The issue is behind them, they’ve yet to find a 3rd guy who is consistent and well rounded in what they bring to the field. Epinessa, Shag and Boogie can all make plays. They can all have their lunch eaten, too. When Groot come back, they’ll be a great until once again. They have to be….we’ve only invested a bazillion resources to the room. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, dorquemada said: I think they need to invest some more high draft picks in the DL Don't you put that evil on me, ricky bobby 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, EmotionallyUnstable said: Pretty good, actually. The interior is strong. Oliver, Settle, Jones and Phillips have been stout and disruptive. The edge, when healthy, can be game changing. Vonn and Groot are a great tandem. The issue is behind them, they’ve yet to find a 3rd guy who is consistent and well rounded in what they bring to the field. Epinessa, Shag and Boogie can all make plays. They can all have their lunch eaten, too. When Groot come back, they’ll be a great until once again. They have to be….we’ve only invested a bazillion resources to the room. We're getting run on again and its a direct result of interior DT play. Epenesa is a liability in setting the edge. Pass rush has mostly evaporated the past few weeks. I have not seen Phillips making much of an impact. Groot is out which has hurt. Dline play is decent but I'm not seeing the return on investment lately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Gugny said: #2 in the NFL for points given up/game. #7 in rushing yards given up/game. #14 in passing yards give up/game. I feel good about this Dline. 0-3 of our losses can be pinned on them. They played absolutely terrible against the Jets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Jauronimo said: We're getting run on again and its a direct result of interior DT play. Epenesa is a liability in setting the edge. Pass rush has mostly evaporated the past few weeks. I have not seen Phillips making much of an impact. Groot is out which has hurt. Dline play is decent but I'm not seeing the return on investment lately. Any particular games/players you’re referring to? Curious why you’re associating the DTs with the issues in run game. I am also not so sure we ARE getting run on a successfully as many perceive. Remove a few gashes (which are often results of poor run support on the back end) and this team is still very good against the run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: They played absolutely terrible against the Jets. Everybody played terrible against the Jets. I'm not saying they're the 85 Bears. I'm just saying that the D Line isn't losing us games. That would actually be Josh Allen, if we're being honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 16 minutes ago, Gugny said: Everybody played terrible against the Jets. I'm not saying they're the 85 Bears. I'm just saying that the D Line isn't losing us games. That would actually be Josh Allen, if we're being honest. They were getting pushed around by the Jets, who we allowed to run it down our throats at the worst possible time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: They were getting pushed around by the Jets, who we allowed to run it down our throats at the worst possible time. I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm also assessing them over 9 games; not one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 8 minutes ago, Gugny said: I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm also assessing them over 9 games; not one. They've steadily gone downhill and since you said they weren't responsible for any losses, I definitely disagree about the Jets game Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 Just now, Billz4ever said: They've steadily gone downhill and since you said they weren't responsible for any losses, I definitely disagree about the Jets game Allen was 18/34 with no passing TD, 2 INT and took 5 sacks. He also fumbled twice, but didn't lose them. Jets scored 20 points. Hard to place the blame on the defense in that one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Gugny said: Allen was 18/34 with no passing TD, 2 INT and took 5 sacks. He also fumbled twice, but didn't lose them. Jets scored 20 points. Hard to place the blame on the defense in that one. When they needed to stop them, they couldn't. Combined with the lack of pressure in just about every game in the last 4 weeks, they are performing well under expectations. Edited November 18, 2022 by Billz4ever 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WotAGuy Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 The Bills D-line is deeper than the snow in OP. Amirite guys? Anyone? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whorlnut Posted November 18, 2022 Share Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Jauronimo said: We're getting run on again and its a direct result of interior DT play. Epenesa is a liability in setting the edge. Pass rush has mostly evaporated the past few weeks. I have not seen Phillips making much of an impact. Groot is out which has hurt. Dline play is decent but I'm not seeing the return on investment lately. So your solution is to continue to invest heavily in dline and hoping we “get it right”. In the meantime, what do we do about the offensive line and WR corp? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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