Perk71 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Go Bills!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, SCBills said: Im sure Poyer knows the deal. I doubt he’s surprised this happened. Maybe this is structured so that they can offer Poyer a 2 year extension, but if I had to guess… he knows he’s playing his final year in Buffalo and wants to go out a Super Bowl Champion, then cash in one last time. Agreed that’s most likely Poyer’s mentality right now. It’s too bad cause I’d like him to stay but the way the salary cap is structured, you can’t keep everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Gessicki, Schultz, Hockenden, and Fant MAY get a jump, IF they produce this year. It's a fair consideration though I will give you that. I would have liked to take the same risk with Knox. Think we could have signed him cheaper at year end, hope he blows up and I'm wrong, but just saying. I don't think any team goes into playing Buffalo saying "we gotta stop Dawson Knox". His production could be replaced by an early round draft pick. I just can't get on board with paying a guy top 5 money at a premium inflated market position for that. He was absolutely a top 10 TE last year in overall value and value per play. I believe he will easily be in the top 5 this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdnlng Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 @Wayne ArnoldI objected to you calling all billionaires the dregs of society so you post an emoji laughing at my objection? If you disagree with me state your case, don't hide behind an emoji. 2 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 1 minute ago, Royale with Cheese said: It's like people don't understand inflation. unless he has a massive regression that i can't imagine happening, it was only going to cost a lot more next year. i love the move. keep this together. at the end of the day, the posters i guessed who would have a problem with it are the exact ones how have a problem with it. i remember the criticism this pick received after the draft. how could the bills possibly draft a te who had never had a td in college? the staff knows far more than we do. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) Awesome...... Now get to work on Oliver. He's going to be a tough one, though. He's going to want to get PAID. Here's hoping the salary cap just explodes even higher than the projections indicate. Going to need all the help we can get. Luckily with the way Allen's contract is structured, the Bills will be able to create huge cap space any year they want to by converting his salary into bonuses. That will greatly help with the flexibility we will need for guys like Oliver and hopefully Davis down the road. Edited September 7, 2022 by sven233 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, SCBills said: Im sure Poyer knows the deal. I doubt he’s surprised this happened. Maybe this is structured so that they can offer Poyer a 2 year extension, but if I had to guess… he knows he’s playing his final year in Buffalo and wants to go out a Super Bowl Champion, then cash in one last time. Exactly. For the players that want a new deal but arent getting one (Poyer, Edmunds), they should be even more motivated to ball out for us this year to maximize their value in FA. Love it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: He's a good blocker and with his athleticism, he puts pressure on linebackers that have to cover him downfield. He was a project coming into the NFL and has developed well...he's gotten better every year. Should we have waited until he has another great year and have to pay more next year? It’s strange to me that some fans only see the stat line and can’t seem to grasp the bigger picture 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 26 minutes ago, BillnutinHouston said: Ha ha you're not giving a speech to Parliament bro, it's a post on a fan website. 😉 Day job, meet weekend hobby. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Gessicki, Schultz, Hockenden, and Fant MAY get a jump, IF they produce this year. It's a fair consideration though I will give you that. I would have liked to take the same risk with Knox. Think we could have signed him cheaper at year end, hope he blows up and I'm wrong, but just saying. I don't think any team goes into playing Buffalo saying "we gotta stop Dawson Knox". His production could be replaced by an early round draft pick. I just can't get on board with paying a guy top 5 money at a premium inflated market position for that. Yolo just posted a tweet saying what I'm thinking. I guess using stats some may not like the signing, but I think Knox is still developing and has a good chance to outplay his contract in the long run. I also think all 4 will sign for more than Knox. That will put him at 10. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 49 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Am I the only one not super excited about paying Knox top 5 TE money? The market has already been inflated this offseason with Njoku signing and others. Knox is good and getting better, but still has significant weaknesses and is not near the difference maker of Kelce/Andrews/Pitts etc. I just don't see the value there for the Bills. If he gave us a good deal, sure lock him up, but not for top 5 TE money. I guess I'll wait to see all the contract details but Would have rather locked up Oliver long term and Poyer short term. I feel like we could have replaced Knox with an early round draft pick if needed. Probably not the only one, but definitely in the minority. If Josh wants him here, I want him here. We need to try and keep "his guys" around him for as long as possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Welp, now we know why Beane freed up some cap space, and love this move! I said earlier in the offseason that I hoped they signed his extension before the season happens to avoid driving his price too high out of range if he had a big season. Personally, I think Knox statistically may not see a huge bump in production this year, but that won't devalue who he is to the team or his talents. And I only say that because this roster is loaded with players who will be, and should be, touching the football and has a QB who spreads the ball around. Davis IMO might even lead the team in yards and TD's this year over Diggs, I think he will be that involved. Then we got a renewed running game, a solid pass catcher RB in Devin/Moss with a pass catching specialist in Cook, to go along with likely more rush attempts too. Then we have 3 slot guys who all should see snaps in McKenzie, Shakir, and Crowder. There is just one football, so I think 500-600 yards and 6-10 TD's is a reasonable expectation again this year. He absolutely has the capability of exceeding that, just think much more than that will be tough with how many weapons we have. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 42 minutes ago, MPL said: I like this move. Now I just need to get my wife on board with naming our first born son Dawson Lawson 😂 If not can always go 2nd option Shaq Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 Fantastic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, MPL said: I like this move. Now I just need to get my wife on board with naming our first born son Dawson Lawson 😂 1 minute ago, stevewin said: If not can always go 2nd option Shaq No love for Manny?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YattaOkasan Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) 18 minutes ago, vtnatefootball11 said: Gessicki, Schultz, Hockenden, and Fant MAY get a jump, IF they produce this year. It's a fair consideration though I will give you that. I would have liked to take the same risk with Knox. Think we could have signed him cheaper at year end, hope he blows up and I'm wrong, but just saying. I don't think any team goes into playing Buffalo saying "we gotta stop Dawson Knox". His production could be replaced by an early round draft pick. I just can't get on board with paying a guy top 5 money at a premium inflated market position for that. Lol what early round draft pick could replace his production? From this list of top rookie TE production there are 4 this century with more production and they all had more targets. so it is laughable to suggest an early round draft pick could replace him. Also would note that the Pitts and Shockey's of the world go in the top half of the first round (not where were picking). also were you the one saying kelce is a better blocker? quickly losing credibility. Edited September 7, 2022 by YattaOkasan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 44 minutes ago, CapeBreton said: Glad they got in done now, he's probably going to have a big year. Would have been nice to get it done before the absurd Njoku contract though, stupid Cleveland definitely cost us some money. In fairness, if one isn’t a Bills fan, Knox’s contract will look absurd too. They both are very athletic TEs, flash major potential, get the dropsies and don’t have big overall stats. The Browns didn’t have Josh Allen either. QB play in Cleveland has been spotty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 54 minutes ago, Back2Buff said: Not a player I would have committed to. I still think its him or Gabe. Looks like Buffalo valued Knox more. We shall see, but my guess, he never lives up to contract. I disagree with you but kudos to posting a contrarian viewpoint. Nothing wrong with that and Bills history for TE development certainly is awful. I think Knox is the most physically gifted TE Bills have ever had and I've been a proponent of him since his mid rookie year. I think your logic is a bit flawed in terms of it being a decision between Knox and Davis. If you are thinking about money spent on offense the next decision might be Singletary or Davis. And if Davis has a breakout year that is a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 I love Knox and glad he’s staying. Money seems a bit high, but it’s not my money. I think it’s interesting that he signed before Poyer, Edmunds, and Oliver, for whatever that’s worth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 34 minutes ago, Einstein said: The tweet mentions that the deal is expected to put him in the top 5 of TE's. We know what the top 5 makes. Based on what? - 18th in TE receptions - 15th in TE yards - 22nd in TE yards per reception Only stat he is one of the best is tight end TD's. - 12th in yards per game - 1st in TDs per game - 7th in yards per target - 1st in passer rating when targeted - Is a very good blocker They’re probably about to give him the targets he deserves and wanted to extend him before his market price shoots through the roof. 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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